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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:23 pm 
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I'm talking about two recent situations involving girls I know. Last night 'M' was convinced to go dancing and partying with a gringo, who wasted hours of her time then ditched her, went to the Del Rey and told security not to let her in. For some reason they complied. This girl is totally honest and doesn't play games. So there she is, after being promised $200 TLN, begging for taxi money to get home. Nice job, whoever you are.

Another case involves 2 other chicas who had a 'date' with a guy to meet him early evening near San Pedro mall. He stood them up and they were also without the means to get home to Desamparados.

I don't think this is typical CRT behavior, nor do I have any reason to think either of these A$$holes were CRT members, but I do ask you all to realize just how poor some of these girls are. If you lead one on past 11 pm, she may be stuck until the buses run again in the morning. If you make a date with one she may not even have bus fare home, counting on her 'payday' to get her home.

Sure, there are scamming chicas. But there are plenty who just barely make it, and can't afford to play bullshit games. Alright, got that off my chest. As you were, men.

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Ok, the thing with telling security, that sucks.. The rest...... well.... kind of part of the game... How many times do chicas no show, show late, keep clients waiting up until the last minute and then take something better? I have to admit no showing on occasion, but have probably had it happen to me 100"s. I really am a gentleman, but they have to expect that sometimes the same bullshit games are gonna happen to them. As for getting a girl stuck with out a way home, I don't really roll with the girls that are that hard up for money. I do agree that telling the security guard was a dirty trick...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:29 pm 
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You guys might be surprised at how little a lot of these girls have in their purse. I have fed many that would have gone hungry if I hadn't. I have often given taxi money for girls who didn't get enough business for the ride home. By the way, every time I have "loaned" them money they have paid me back, something I didn't expect.

Thirdworld, I don't think Bilko is asking that we go to extraordinary lengths. Just be aware that they may be relying on us for a ride home. I always try to get the situation clear up front. I don't take a girl to dinner or out drinking or even just monopolize her time in her chosen venue unless I have already decided to take her and I let her know it. I think it is just common courtesy to let her know that she is "busy" so she does not sit there and wonder. If for some reason it does not work out, taxi fare is reasonable, in my opinion.

I doubt that these guys were CRTers. In any case, they caused resentment. Resentment is always bad because it does not go away. "Resentment will out", and when it comes out it comes as revenge. We don't need girls who are pre-loaded for revenge.

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Pac55, have to agree on the part about taking them out to dinner or drinks and not having everything clear... That is bad form... That is almost an implied contract unless it is clearly stated by the chica that she is just going out with you for fun.... And most if not all of my no shows have been not showing up at the DR or Key Largo and not having them come to my hotel..... To have them make an effort to go out of the way is bad...


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Convincing security to keep a girl out of the DR is low...so you don't want to session with her, why would you keep her from finding another guy? Phuck... :roll:

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Pacifica55 wrote:

I doubt that these guys were CRTers. In any case, they caused resentment. Resentment is always bad because it does not go away. "Resentment will out", and when it comes out it comes as revenge. We don't need girls who are pre-loaded for revenge.


And the chicas most likely did not know whether they were or were not CRT guys so their resentment will be against gringos period. Not a good thing but then there always are a minority whi screw things up for everyone.

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"....Time is money."

I respect the fact that these girls are working to survive. I don't waste their time. If they approach me and I'm not interested, I tell them "please don't waste your time on me. I'm not looking for company."


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We all know there are A$$holes amongst us.Weather it was a crt member or not the situation was not handled properly.I myself have had a couple of encounters where after a couple of drinks a deal could not be closed.In these situations if i was with her for more than an hour i always give them 5000 colons.Handleing itthis way works for ME and the girls have always been ok with it.Hell i even sessioned with one the very next night.


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Zebra wrote:
"....Time is money."

I respect the fact that these girls are working to survive. I don't waste their time. If they approach me and I'm not interested, I tell them "please don't waste your time on me. I'm not looking for company."
Good post Zebra.......That's how i see it as well.... 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:32 pm 
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Have to agree with TW on this one, keeping the girl from her place of making money is low. He also should have given her taxi money WTF? thats bad. But everything else that happened is part of just a date gone bad. Whos fault is it if the date goes bad. Bilko is assuming its just the gringos fault which is odd, I would counter its just as likely if not more the girls fault, these girls can be flakey we all know this they are just as likely to no show as we are. Bilko I would only believe half of what she is saying to you.

But true we dont need girls preloaded for revenge, but the reality is after 3 months they are pretty hardened anyways.


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Irish Drifter wrote:
And the chicas most likely did not know whether they were or were not CRT guys so their resentment will be against gringos period. Not a good thing but then there always are a minority whi screw things up for everyone.


Well....maybe not...since Admin has noted there bees some very insecure boys amongst who are passing out their screen names and passwords.....and since that is going on I am more than certain they will read these works of literature and report back to the sisterhood that we're innocent? :P

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Bilko, good post. These girls are human and deserve not to be treated poorly. And for you guys who are not inclined to threat them like dates instead of pieces of meat, you will note threads by other CRT'ers who get GFE treatment by being decent guys. Some guys never get it. They may get laid for a few bucks, but they never get the full experience that can be had by being simpatico.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:55 pm 
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El Viejo wrote:
Bilko, good post. These girls are human and deserve not to be treated poorly. And for you guys who are not inclined to threat them like dates instead of pieces of meat, you will note threads by other CRT'ers who get GFE treatment by being decent guys. Some guys never get it. They may get laid for a few bucks, but they never get the full experience that can be had by being simpatico.


Great post El Viejo.

Exactly!

We get what we pay for BUT if we act like asses then we get what asses get, BS treatment. If we are the rude and ugly xxxxxx (Fill in the xxxxxx with whatever country your from), then we get what rude and ugly brings. If we treat these women like their human and decent (they're just trying to making a living. Man sometimes it sucks!) then we end up in the drivers seat. The cold hard fact is that they're doing it to feed themselves and their K*ds. It's not for our benefit :( .

Like many others have said in these forums, before me, Buy them dinner and a few drinks, have some fun (show them some fun) and have a good time. It will come back to you in the long run. No matter if it's with the current gal or another.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:37 am 
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Have to agree with TW on this one, keeping the girl from her place of making money is low. He also should have given her taxi money WTF? thats bad. But everything else that happened is part of just a date gone bad. Whos fault is it if the date goes bad. Bilko is assuming its just the gringos fault which is odd, I would counter its just as likely if not more the girls fault, these girls can be flakey we all know this they are just as likely to no show as we are. Bilko I would only believe half of what she is saying to you.

But true we dont need girls preloaded for revenge, but the reality is after 3 months they are pretty hardened anyways.


You may want to re-read my original post. The guy promised her $200 TLN before playing his little game, wasting her time, etc. And I know this girl very well. I believe her story. Anyone who actually knows her is free to decide for himself, otherwise you are just making sweeping generalizations based on your perception of what all sex workers (or women perhaps) are like. That's just not how I personally see the world.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:06 am 
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While most of us will agree that the way he went about it was low, nobody knows why he ditched her. Many guys here have dismissed chicas before a session even started for various reasons (for example... she agreed to bbbj then changed her mind). No matter how many hours they spent together, if she renegs, he has the right to dismiss her. Again, the way he chose to do that was completely wrong.

Not knowing either party, we can't comment on what happened or why.

I know of a similar situation that happened a couple of years ago. I witnessed the whole thing with my own eyes (versus being told by somebody else) so I can tell the story accurately:
There was a small party thrown by a couple CRT members. A CRT member (no longer active) attending the party met a chica at this party and they talked and agreed on a TLN for that night. After the party ended, as we are walking back to SL, the chica tells the guy that she won't be able to stay the night because she got a phone call that her baby is sick and she has to go home in 2 hours versus the morning. This was after midnight. They drank at the party for about 3 hours (9pm-12am). He got angry and told her to leave. She started crying about how she can't make any money at DR because it's late now and she won't have any money to buy her K*D medicine.

I didn't agree the way he handled that as well. He should have given her some money for her time and taxi fare, but only because of the reason why. I gave her the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't lying. But she reneged on their original deal, should it matter why? Was the baby really sick or did she just want to get paid and then go look for another guy at DR? Who knows. I only mention this because we don't know what happened between them?


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