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World Economic Observation

On a prior post ( General Info 12/30/08 ) there was a very good discussion by members on the way economics are going and I offer this as a my observation as to where possible what was predicted is happening now or headed that way on very on a individual bases.

Having played the Russian wife game a few years ago, I am still a non-paying member of a few sites and for some thing to do, I look at the ladies on a regular basis- ok I like to look at pretty ladies- On one site E/W match the amount of ladies who were signing on for there on-line chat had dropped to around 10-12 day ( for day time Russian time) in the spring, Since then and really starting around Nov 1 there can be up to 60 ladies signed on for on-chat. Also I started in Oct and growing, receiving fishing letters again from ladies in my in- box on several sites,after 5 years of non-paying and a few years of no letters. I also have received to my personnel email address letters from ladies who got my name by way of the ladies I saw when I was over there, asking if I remember them and if I still want a wife- one wanted to know how soon I wanted one. And a few from the daughters of ladies I meet ( I am 52a nd the ladies I saw were 5-10 years younger then me). These were not canned letter because of the depth of there knowledge about me. And this is now 4-6 years depending on the county since I was there.
That’s one thing, but anther is that I have look at the profiles of the newer ladies and they read like they did 10 years ago. They want tall, hansom, financially independent ( read rich) who owners a large apartment in a large city( some one help me here, what’s a large apt. In say NY, LA, Mia, or ORD run? ). The best one was one lady would need to fly back to Moscow 6-8 times a year to visit her mother, All I could think of was if I had that kind of funds 1) I would not have to look here 2) I be able to rent the Pres. Suite at SL for months at a time ,several times a year 3) why would I need/want her if I could do #2.- The other was a lady who said now that she has her baby she looking for a father for him. That’s like some of the woman I had One and only one date with who asked right away if I could pay for there K*ds college.
This I add up to meaning its really bad back there compared to here, going down the toilet fast and any lady who can wants to get out asap and thinks it’s a sellers market… but also they really do not have a clue as to what is going on…
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I also have friends back there who are hurting, one is a retired FULL Bird Colonel in Russian Army , Nuclear Defense and the best job the can get now is something paying $6000 a year, a real let down for what he did before.

So the collapse that was predicted in one post by one member is may already be happening over there to some extent.. It may be bad here, buts a lot worse some where else and going down a lot faster.

So any members here on any Latin America or Asia brides sites noticed the same thing?

Disclaimer- my observations are offered for agreeing, rebuttal, or target practice ,( I have my bull eyes shirt on.)

Dude. So spot on correct. I have ladies shun me because I only have a 3/2 west of I-95 in West Palm (albeit a nice hood). But I will continue to not overly indebt myself. I have for the most part except for my nice standard house and a nice good reliable car avoided the larger flashier more expensive things and pay of my minor debts each month in cash and now it is really paying off. So long as I remain employed the best cash flow I have ever had (mortgage payments actually going down a bit due to prop. tax decreases) due to sheer discipline and staying for the most part out of a lot of the bad investments or dumping money into a bitchy me first self centered overweight fem-nazi ugly gringa. Not a huge windfall by US standard but a few extra hundred bucks gets me down to Rica or Medellin that much more often.

I love how when times are good they can be so extra discriminate but when times are bad they flip flop (typical woman). So these Russian womens just phucked themselves didn't they? When the times were good they want nothing to do with us and want to have it all but now?? I would only use them now as a prostituta and no more. Their character and shallowness hath been revealed.

Yeah Russia is really bad off Iceland too. I have a co-worker who I think did come over as a mail order bride some years ago (she's in her 60s I think) and she won't even discuss Russia's situation with me any more. She's very well educated and been a good bride I believe, still with her husband. Her mother left her some huge change ($300K) when she passed but all in Rubles and is now worth I guess zero. Sad part is she proly could have gotten that money out in the 90s but never really pursued it hard enough (didn't want to stay over there long enough to push it thru). Of course feel bad for her but she also has positive attitude and very thankful that she still has a good job here.

Now on Iceland another co-worker pointed out an article in the German on-line Spiegel.de of a large violent protest there this week (Iceland) and resignation of their Prime Minister it is so bad. First time Iceland Govt. had to use tear gas in 60 years!!!!!!! I have friend over there from my time in the Navy and found her in facebook last week and sent an email. If I find out anything will post in here. She worked on the former NATO base similar to our GS's here.

On the CNBC now they are saying is it will get worse before it gets worse instead of it will get worse before it gets better.

Last note very much want to thank CRT bretheren for discussions on the precious metals and our fiat currency dollar. Don't have a lot to invest but did buy one 10 oz. silver bar and some palladium bullion recently from the NWT mint!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!!!

Also on another sad note saw a black and white outside my rental neighbor's house when I came back from lunch 45 min. ago and now the policeman and the husband and wife are out front talking. Proly dom.violence spurred by faltering economy. Just so very very glad they are both standing and doesn;t look like anyone is going away in handcuffs.

Xman, my take on what you wrote is that the number of women seeking an 'out' from bad economies is a leading indicator, but the attitudes of these woman is a lagging indicator. Most women who don't live in the 'first world' don't have much idea of reality in the 'first' world. They base their ideas on movies and such.

It's a little like the Del Rey. Lots of girls in there, and most complain about not enough 'clients.' Still, not ready to settle for less than $100.

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I think what is happening in Russia is that the average person is realizing that they are not going to become a first world economy any time soon. And by soon, I mean within a generation. A parent will sacrifice for 30 years if they have a strong hope that their K*D will have what we in the West consider a middle class life, but that hope is diminishing in Russia, and is shockingly becoming doubtful in even the richest provinces of China. (The Chinese thought the flow of money from the WalMarts in the USA would never end. This Xmas season showed them otherwise.)

The "smart" Russians were the ones who, since the early 1990's, paid forgers to come up with documention that they had at least one Jewish grandmother. That allowed them to immigrate to Israel. The really smart ones then learned English, and not Hebrew, and started to work on immigrating to the US.

But what does it mean to us? I would like to hear from the other mongers about what they are doing to ride out this recession. Like the guy who started this thread, I, too, was very responsible and paid off my 3/2 house (within 5 years), my cars, and have made my position at work pretty solid. Should I stay out of debt? Or rent out my current home, buy a second home, and pay that mortgage back with cheap, post-inflation dollars? Should I stock up the basement with provisions? How fungible are those silver coins?

And what does the crisis mean for mongering? After George Soros targeted economies in the far east, there were many bargains to be had. Korean girls were actually working in the Korean MP's after being mostly gone for 15 years. The quality of the talent in Buenos Aires was supposedly much improved. Airfares should be down. Hotels should be more reasonable.

Of course, the smartest thing many of you have done was avoid the minefield that marrying/divorcing a gringa can become.

My dad is having the time of his life. He retired with his UAW pension in the mid-1990's, bought a little apartment a block and a half off Miami Beach, and is in a "target-rich" environment for him. He has dated more women, from more countries than any three of us. Women who out live their husbands (what up with THAT?) come to Miami Beach "to get their groove back" and spend their dead husband's life insurance money. And there is Dad, like Ricardo Montalban, ready with the tennis lessons at his club during the day, and his Merengue and Salsa lessons at night. I think his last wish is to die in the arms of a 50-year-old. (He is in mid 70's.)

He worked 50 years for it, but now he's living the dream. I wonder if our generation will have it so good. Social Security, long term employment, strong unions, solvent pension systems....they are not what they used to be.

Sorry to resurrect this one but when I came back from dinner tonight around 11:30p two more black n whites back at this same house except this time the man was hauled off to the pokey whether or not he deserved it. Spoke to my other neighbors and they confirmed the DV incident and that the woman a very strong willed one (think patriarch bitch head of household bossing man around all the time). Don't know all the details but my neighbors did say the man came out in his boxers with ice pack on his package and still hauled off. Don't know what kinda injuries the mujer sustained but usually man's fault anyway in US, Canada and now CR.

Also just found out tonight that the mujer (a hot but very tough looking Brasiliani) had worked in the RE industry during the height and owned a huge home in an upscale south Florida neighborhood and pulling in huge $$$s but now renting a home. The downsizing of lifestyle I'm sure added to the cohabition friction. Personally is why I don't care to cohabit with one (any woman) because just gonna cause all kinds of problems.

The world is ending speech comes around every 10 years or so.Reality is this.The US will have to make radical changes in the years ahead.Pretty much in how we do everything.We need to start acting more like our lending countries and less like the debtor nation both parties will tell you is the ideal.This will probably come by force as those countries that float our notes will force the change, or no more money.But it will be for the better across the board.Really don't piss away your money in gold.It has the worst history of any investment ever.

It is so very scary; many daily articles on www.europac.net regarding the collapsing dollar coming very soon.

Very few people are willing or capable of admitting the impending circumstances to the US dollar--it will forever change the face of the globe. I dont even know how to prepare, other than to say "Bring on the bitches"

And speaking of the US dollar, maybe someone more knowledgeable about economics can explain if they think it is realistic or rumor that oil might be traded in a currency other than the dollar the future. And how catastrophic that would be for the US if it did happen.

This is a fact, just headline news 2 days ago. The plan is to have the dollar no longer the world currency for oil purchases eta--9 years. Needless to say -- THe USA willl never be the same. With the massive amount of debt we curently have and the trillions in new spending, the US will see massive inflation, other countries will not want to buy our debt, massive enemployment (expect unemployment rates over 20% within the next 36 months).

Bottom line US is FUBAR, tears to my eyes as I watch it happen and the news ignores it.

Here is an interesting look at it that I read this afternoon:
http://www.counterpunch.com/whitney10062009.html[/url][/code]

But hey O'Bama did just win the Noble Peace prize so he is shit hot and will make it all better...

Right?

Right?

(one big blank Bambie stare so fitting here and please understand I am being extremely facetious).

color=blue]Bilko Wrote "Xman, my take on what you wrote is that the number of women seeking an 'out' from bad economies is a leading indicator, but the attitudes of these woman is a lagging indicator. Most women who don't live in the 'first world' don't have much idea of reality in the 'first' world. They base their ideas on movies and such[/color].

It's a little like the Del Rey. Lots of girls in there, and most complain about not enough 'clients.' Still, not ready to settle for less than $100.:"
Jester wrote "Dude. So spot on correct. I have ladies shun me because I only have a 3/2 west of I-95 in West Palm (albeit a nice hood). But I will continue to not overly indebt myself. I have for the most part except for my nice standard house and a nice good reliable car avoided the larger flashier more expensive things and pay of my minor debts each month in cash and now it is really paying off. So long as I remain employed the best cash flow I have ever had (mortgage payments actually going down a bit due to prop. tax decreases) due to sheer discipline and staying for the most part out of a lot of the bad investments or dumping money into a bitchy me first self centered overweight fem-nazi ugly gringa. Not a huge windfall by US standard but a few extra hundred bucks gets me down to Rica or Medellin that much more often

Without starting an indepth discussion of the female psyche and our collapsing dollar., having lived in south Fla all my life and seeing many immigrants come here thinking the streets are pave in gold, and then reality sets in. I keep seeing it in C.R. they have a perception ALL Americans are rich except for the few that live in C.R. Yes I know a few C.R. gringos are rich.

Jester you are right on, I do some socilizing where I meet women in their 30s,40s and early 50s. The questions are sly, but with one objective. Determine my wealth,what do you do??? How come you're retired so young??? They find out I'm retired from a civil service job (government) they know know about 457 deferred comp and the DROP program. Then the questions start about health insurance and my monthly retirement check....this may take place over several weeks, do I Pay alimony or Ch*ld support. Rightly or Wrongly (if these are correct words) gringas have the perception they are ENTITLED, because of past descrimination , yes it has occured in our history. But having been divorced and Butt F**K by a judge in Dade County, losing my house in total and having 2 years worth of her dept, she was bi-polar but had a Ch*ld by me... thus ...."just bend over". I feel I've paid for all of mans past wrongs. Yea, just what I want A FAT ASS money grubing gringa, telling me when, what, and where I can go and do.
Sorry for rambling rant
I seen several different friends marry foreign women and bring them back to the U.S. Based upon of what I seen theres' less then a 50% chance they will stay after they get their residency.
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Good posts. The collapse of the dollar will cause skyrocketing interest rates and turn the US into a "Banana Republic." With the USD as reserve currency all other countries need to keep USD to purchase commodities. Therefore they need to continue to buy our paper...thus giving us a free ride economically, so to speak. If the USD is replaced as a world currency, what will happen to all of those dollars floating around the world? Big time devaluation. Much more to this scenario but that's the basics.

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