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Author:  D2864 [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Your Daughter

I've been wondering lately. I've thought about this before, but never posted.

Many on here trash gringas to the Nth degree saying that they weld too much power.

If you have a daughter or if you had a daughter.....

we mongers like weak women who can't call the shots. would you do all that you could to make your daughter powerful so that she would at least have an equal voice?

we mongers speak of controlling our novias abroad, let them know who's boss, she'll respect you and behave. would you want your daughter to be independent enough to tell a controlling man to go get phucked?

we mongers complain about how difficult it is to get a gringa to put out. we wish they were more like the foreign babes that drop to their knees in a heartbeat, because, you know, foreign chicks don't think sex is dirty. would you want your daughter to put out easily... buy her dinner and off to the bed with your daughter? (i know, if she is of age, it is her business, but that isn't my question, would you want her being an easy lay is the question).

we mongers like them young. would you want your daughter dating a man who is much older than her? would you be concerned about the guys she dates? would you want an upstanding man for her or would just any old man do for your daughter?

would you want your daughter to trade places with any of the honeys we tap abroad?

I hold no ill feelings toward gringas, because I know that if I had a daughter, I'd want her to be the most powerful woman on this earth. I can't see cheering for 1 (my daughter) and wanting the rest to be weak pitiful souls.

Author:  Archieleach [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:39 am ]
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I don't mean to be too light about a serious post, but this is an old debate trick meant to sound like a trump card argument against something. But there is no meaningful philosophical correlation (for a hundred reasons) between not wanting your daughter to do something and wanting or not wanting other people to do it, or thinking less of them as people for doing it.

I wouldn't want my daughter to be a plumber either, but I call one the minute I'm in need of one.

And I don't think any less of plumbers.

Since I don't want my daughter to be a plumber should I feel badly that other people are plumbers?

I'm not saying this is an Aristotlean response to refute your point. But there are many more aspects to reality than a simplified zero sum equation.

Author:  VegasBob [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:15 am ]
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Bad example...In the US today some plumbers make more money than some Doctors (after considering the ridiculous fees they pay for malpractice insurance)

Author:  Irish Drifter [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:41 am ]
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Vegas Bob wrote:
Bad example...In the US today some plumbers make more money than some Doctors (after considering the ridiculous fees they pay for malpractice insurance)


Perhaps they should. Most plumbers who mess up the job will return to make it right. Most Doctors who screw up, leaving their patients maimed or worse dead, say Gee sorry WE (never I) did our best.

Author:  Archieleach [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:33 pm ]
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Vegas Bob - actually that makes it an even better example. Most quality Prostitutes today make more money than people assume they do, like plumbers, yet they are both stigmatized with low public perception. It's the public perception issue we're dealing with, not the inherent "goodness" of the profession. And it's the perception that drives whether we would want our daughters to do them.

It's the same argument as "If you're not ashamed to be a monger, if you don't think being a monger is a BAD thing to do, then why don't you announce it to everyone and go totally public with your hobby?"

I am not ashamed of being a monger, I don't think it's bad, dishonest, taking advantage, oppressive, or sexist even. But I don't announce it publicly to my clients. Why? Public perception of the issue is so negative, and so convoluted, that it would take three hours of intense and serious debate just to lay out all my arguments for why I feel the way I do, and why I think it's the public that has this issue backwards. And even then you're not going to convince a lot of them to be open minded and intelligent about the issue. And in all seriousness, you'd never get that chance with any of them. They will form their opinions without ever hearing your rationale. So it's a losing proposition for you. Thus, you keep it to yourself. But that doesn't make it a bad thing.

That argument is flawed just like the daughter argument. And prostitutes are stigmatized with poor public perceptions just like plumbers, despite both being noble and lucrative professions.

Author:  Triple FFF [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Daughter

D2864 wrote:
I've been wondering lately. I've thought about this before, but never posted.

Many on here trash gringas to the Nth degree saying that they weld too much power.

If you have a daughter or if you had a daughter.....

we mongers like weak women who can't call the shots. would you do all that you could to make your daughter powerful so that she would at least have an equal voice?

we mongers speak of controlling our novias abroad, let them know who's boss, she'll respect you and behave. would you want your daughter to be independent enough to tell a controlling man to go get phucked?

we mongers complain about how difficult it is to get a gringa to put out. we wish they were more like the foreign babes that drop to their knees in a heartbeat, because, you know, foreign chicks don't think sex is dirty. would you want your daughter to put out easily... buy her dinner and off to the bed with your daughter? (i know, if she is of age, it is her business, but that isn't my question, would you want her being an easy lay is the question).

we mongers like them young. would you want your daughter dating a man who is much older than her? would you be concerned about the guys she dates? would you want an upstanding man for her or would just any old man do for your daughter?

would you want your daughter to trade places with any of the honeys we tap abroad?

I hold no ill feelings toward gringas, because I know that if I had a daughter, I'd want her to be the most powerful woman on this earth. I can't see cheering for 1 (my daughter) and wanting the rest to be weak pitiful souls.


If this is a serious post excuse my lmao otf. you sir are perhaps a preditor and should be sanctioned. The girls that I enjoy partying with make their own decisions and routinely take control. I do not like weakness and so therefor I suspect I would not like you that preys upon the weak because you need to validate your own questionable existence.

Just my opionion. YMMV

Author:  JazzboCR [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:51 pm ]
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Mary Magdalene was somebody's daughter. Whether or not her parents were proud of her is unknowable, but Jesus sure did not have a problem with her or her profession.

Author:  D2864 [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Daughter

Triple FFF wrote:
D2864 wrote:
I've been wondering lately. I've thought about this before, but never posted.

Many on here trash gringas to the Nth degree saying that they weld too much power.

If you have a daughter or if you had a daughter.....

we mongers like weak women who can't call the shots. would you do all that you could to make your daughter powerful so that she would at least have an equal voice?

we mongers speak of controlling our novias abroad, let them know who's boss, she'll respect you and behave. would you want your daughter to be independent enough to tell a controlling man to go get phucked?

we mongers complain about how difficult it is to get a gringa to put out. we wish they were more like the foreign babes that drop to their knees in a heartbeat, because, you know, foreign chicks don't think sex is dirty. would you want your daughter to put out easily... buy her dinner and off to the bed with your daughter? (i know, if she is of age, it is her business, but that isn't my question, would you want her being an easy lay is the question).

we mongers like them young. would you want your daughter dating a man who is much older than her? would you be concerned about the guys she dates? would you want an upstanding man for her or would just any old man do for your daughter?

would you want your daughter to trade places with any of the honeys we tap abroad?

I hold no ill feelings toward gringas, because I know that if I had a daughter, I'd want her to be the most powerful woman on this earth. I can't see cheering for 1 (my daughter) and wanting the rest to be weak pitiful souls.


If this is a serious post excuse my lmao otf. you sir are perhaps a preditor and should be sanctioned. The girls that I enjoy partying with make their own decisions and routinely take control. I do not like weakness and so therefor I suspect I would not like you that preys upon the weak because you need to validate your own questionable existence.

Just my opionion. YMMV


Triple, thanks, after your post, I can see that most of my sentences should have begin with "mongers who...... " instead of "we mongers......".

I realize some guys are into mongering purely for the pu*sy.... nothing more, nothing less. I should have said this in my post too, I apologize.

Author:  Icantstayaway [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:39 am ]
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What a stupid topic for a men's forum. I should subscribe to "Women's Day" if I want to discuss such dribble.

I'm gonna leave it at that.

Ok. I wont. The world has 6 billion people. Some live in high rises and pay rent to Donald Trump and others sell their pu*sy for cash. Funnie, the rich have a higher rate of suicide than the poor.

Others like me try to find pleasure along the way. I had a month with a girl in China. You tell me I screwed up the universal rhythm of mothers and daughters . Phuck you . What are you doing here?

Edited. 14 minutes later.

Admin: Please Delete this entire thread that discusses, "daughters" .

There is no purpose in it.

I had more than one guy at my old lunch table that started talking about things that they caught their daughter doing. None of which we want to discuss here. And doesn't start to compare to what is normally discussed here.

Author:  D2864 [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:48 am ]
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Icantstayaway wrote:
What a stupid topic for a men's forum. I should subscribe to "Women's Day" if I want to discuss such dribble.

I'm gonna leave it at that.

Ok. I wont. The world has 6 billion people. Some live in high rises and pay rent to Donald Trump and others sell their pu*sy for cash. Funnie, the rich have a higher rate of suicide than the poor.

Others like me try to find pleasure along the way. I had a month with a girl in China. You tell me I screwed up the universal rhythm of mothers and daughters . Phuck you . What are you doing here?


Oh my, defensive and completely off topic.

Author:  Icantstayaway [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:04 am ]
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D2864 wrote:
Icantstayaway wrote:
What a stupid topic for a men's forum. I should subscribe to "Women's Day" if I want to discuss such dribble.

I'm gonna leave it at that.

Ok. I wont. The world has 6 billion people. Some live in high rises and pay rent to Donald Trump and others sell their pu*sy for cash. Funnie, the rich have a higher rate of suicide than the poor.

Others like me try to find pleasure along the way. I had a month with a girl in China. You tell me I screwed up the universal rhythm of mothers and daughters . Phuck you . What are you doing here?


Oh my, defensive and completely off topic.


D2, I didn't take the time to search but I remember quoting you 6 months or so.

Man , they told us in the US that if we wanted to p4p we could go to 3 or 4 counties of a whole country. Some of us left to satisfy our most basic human desires.

Why the heck are you talking about "daughters" ?

Author:  D2864 [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:43 pm ]
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My post isn't about mongering being a bad thing. I love mongering, but it is purely for easy pu*sy and a good time when I was not in a relationship in the states. I have no negative feelings about mongering at all. Guys need to satisfy the urge and these honeys have to eat.

I'm not going to explain my post any further. It is what it is, I guess some get it and some do not. That is okay too... let it go. I just felt the need to put it out there, because I was curious.

Author:  Junky11 [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:52 pm ]
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The whole ethical issue about mongering boils down to:

What consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is nobody's GD business!!! As far as I am concerned there's nothing more to be said then that!

Author:  Raw [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:32 pm ]
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If I had a daughter, I would have spoiled her. But I would have also taught her a good work ethic and people skills. There are are so many arrogant bratty K*ds running around . When life really hits them hard they will fall apart.

Author:  Complex09 [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:29 pm ]
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I think I can answer your question, while ignoring allot of the offensive suggestive statements. The complaints most people have with the typical gringas does not imply that non-gringas are weak or easy sex. This is your suggestion.

The proper term in my opinion is that gringas suffer from being inflexible with a strong feeling of entitlement. This could be construed as being strong willed when it’s actually just being a b!tch.

If I had a daughter I definitely would not want her to have the attitude of the typical gringa. Because she would suffer of a long line of bad relationships created from her bad attitude. How to stop such bad behavior . . . not too sure because it’s so engrained into our society. I guess just point out when she is being overly selfish and inconsiderate of others. As far as being worried that she will be an easy lay . . just show her proper love in a stable environment. That will go farther than anything to building self worth.

Quote:
would you do all that you could to make your daughter powerful so that she would at least have an equal voice?


I actually find this very funny! Because it implies women are weak by nature which is certainly not true.

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