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Author:  Shadowman [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  The end of mongering...

I heard on the radio today that airlines are considering several measures in the form of extra charges in order to combat high fuel prices.

Ok, so they're considering charging for carry-on luggage, not so bad, I think that has already started with some airlines

OK, so they're starting to consider charging by the pound for checked luggage. OK, that's bad, but you pack light and take the chicas less presents. We can deal.

But now, get this, they've always had a scale for your luggage, but now they're also considering putting in a scale for you! That's right folks, the airlines are now considering charging by the pound for passengers! :shock: :evil:

How are we ever going to be able to afford to fly our fat asses around the globe if they do this? Mongering will disappear overnight, as the mortgage crisis has created a shortage of lending capital, and none of us are going to be able to afford to buy plane tickets without taking out a loan! Soon, the chicas will be looking at guys and wondering why THEY only have spinners to deal with. Pamela might accidentally kill someone. Midgets and scrawny teenagers will be the only people left flying. Whole 3rd world economies might collapse. Imagine how bad the attitude of gringas will get now!

It's an outrage, I tell ya!

Author:  Zebra [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:00 pm ]
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Horny gringos will always find a way. :P

Author:  Cujo's [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:04 pm ]
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At 245lbs I hope this isn't the case. :shock:


Cujo

Author:  Jmacaula [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:20 pm ]
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Some smaller airlines already have this in place. Start charging a rate of say .50 cents per pound over 200 pounds.

To start packing small planes with 300 pound guys is alot more expensive then a plane full of 160 pound guys

Author:  LAdiablo [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:46 am ]
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i always thought is was fair to charge more for obese passengers. why should they get a pass when the rest of us managed to abstain from filling our pie holes on a regular basis.
we are way to passive in our treatment of obesity as a disease. lets humiliate these lard asses in a way that might actually work. hit em in the wallet so they have less for that super size.

Author:  Irish Drifter [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:53 am ]
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LaDiablo wrote:
we are way to passive in our treatment of obesity as a disease. lets humiliate these lard asses in a way that might actually work.


Always a pleasure to see a compassionate humanitarian post on CRT. :P :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Pacifica55 [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:00 pm ]
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ID, that is a compassionate humanitarian post. The best thing that could happen to many of these people is to be shamed threatened or cajoled into dropping the excess baggage (I lost 70lbs almost two years ago so I know both sides of the issue.

Shadowman said:
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How are we ever going to be able to afford to fly our fat asses around the globe if they do this? Mongering will disappear overnight...

I think you reached the wrong conclusion, Shadowman. Many mongers may disappear overnight but the mongering will live on thanks to the few of us who live here. So many chicas for so little dinero! :shock: :lol: 8)

Author:  Witling [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:56 pm ]
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When I worked part-time for a small commuter airline in Florida ('74-'76) we calculated an average weight for passengers at 170 lbs.

The current calculation for passengers and luggage is 220lbs. As you can see that is way under reality just for many people. Add in their bags and it's closer to 300lbs.

Author:  Irish Drifter [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:02 pm ]
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Pacifica55 wrote:
ID, that is a compassionate humanitarian post. The best thing that could happen to many of these people is to be shamed threatened or cajoled into dropping the excess baggage (I lost 70lbs almost two years ago so I know both sides of the issue.



Sorry I have to disagree. You only know both sides of the issue as they pertain to you personally. I know people who have chronic pulmonary obstructive disease who can not quit smoking. Does that give me the right to humiliate them because I can say I quit? Does that give me the right to say I know both sides of the issue? I don't think so. The only right it gives me is the self satisfaction of having given up smoking and the only right you acquired from losing 70 pounds was the satisfaction of knowing you took on a challenge and won. Congratulation by the way. Glad you were able to do it.

Fortunately I have never been diagnosed as morbidly obese or even obese but I did know someone who was morbidly obese. No amount of dieting helped. They eventually had weight loss surgery, paid for by insurance, because of the diagnose that it was a medical necessity not something caused by overeating.

Yes there are people who are obese because of their life style just the same as there are alcoholics and smokers who know they are killings themselves. You are not going to "cure" any of them by humiliation.

Author:  Dramatist [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:49 pm ]
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Shadowman wrote:
I heard on the radio today that airlines are considering several measures in the form of extra charges in order to combat high fuel prices.

Ok, so they're considering charging for carry-on luggage, not so bad, I think that has already started with some airlines

OK, so they're starting to consider charging by the pound for checked luggage. OK, that's bad, but you pack light and take the chicas less presents. We can deal.

But now, get this, they've always had a scale for your luggage, but now they're also considering putting in a scale for you! That's right folks, the airlines are now considering charging by the pound for passengers! :shock: :evil:

How are we ever going to be able to afford to fly our fat asses around the globe if they do this? Mongering will disappear overnight, as the mortgage crisis has created a shortage of lending capital, and none of us are going to be able to afford to buy plane tickets without taking out a loan! Soon, the chicas will be looking at guys and wondering why THEY only have spinners to deal with. Pamela might accidentally kill someone. Midgets and scrawny teenagers will be the only people left flying. Whole 3rd world economies might collapse. Imagine how bad the attitude of gringas will get now!

It's an outrage, I tell ya!


The way it always should have been – I know I’ll be tarred and feathered for this; however, pepsi is not a food group. And if you move your bowels once every three weeks while considering channel surfing as your sole form of exercise – well, there is a consequence to this sort of destructive behavior.

Flying considerably for the past decade – I find myself in business class, but not by virtue of the food or service, rather the space and not having to worry about the person next to me spilling over into my lap.

Author:  NYG [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:24 pm ]
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Irish Drifter wrote:
Pacifica55 wrote:
ID, that is a compassionate humanitarian post. The best thing that could happen to many of these people is to be shamed threatened or cajoled into dropping the excess baggage (I lost 70lbs almost two years ago so I know both sides of the issue.



Sorry I have to disagree. You only know both sides of the issue as they pertain to you personally. I know people who have chronic pulmonary obstructive disease who can not quit smoking. Does that give me the right to humiliate them because I can say I quit? Does that give me the right to say I know both sides of the issue? I don't think so. The only right it gives me is the self satisfaction of having given up smoking and the only right you acquired from losing 70 pounds was the satisfaction of knowing you took on a challenge and won. Congratulation by the way. Glad you were able to do it.

Fortunately I have never been diagnosed as morbidly obese or even obese but I did know someone who was morbidly obese. No amount of dieting helped. They eventually had weight loss surgery, paid for by insurance, because of the diagnose that it was a medical necessity not something caused by overeating.

Yes there are people who are obese because of their life style just the same as there are alcoholics and smokers who know they are killings themselves. You are not going to "cure" any of them by humiliation.


Well said ID, must also add that if a business humiliates a customer in any way they lose that customer for good. No exceptions :evil: If the airline industry loses anymore customers where will they be :roll: One airline just laid off 3000 people :shock:

NYG

Author:  Bear-Ass [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:25 pm ]
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played college athletics have always been big..payed my way through school cannot help how i am built...get off my case or maybe i will sit on your ass..i guess you want to bitch about disabled guys,blind guys and everyone else that doesnt fit your 170lb skinny ass frame

Author:  Thirdworld [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:02 pm ]
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Fact: Less than 1% of all overweight people have a medical reason why they can't lose weight.

Author:  Irish Drifter [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:51 pm ]
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Thirdworld wrote:
Fact: Less than 1% of all overweight people have a medical reason why they can't lose weight.


Fact: Less than 1% of smokers have a medical reason why they cant quit!

Fact: Less than 1% of alcoholics have a medical reason why they cant quit!

Fact less than 1% of crack cocaine users have a medical reason why....

Fact less than 1% of degenerate gamblers have .....

Fact less than 1% of serial rapists....

Note: ALL of the above FACTS are pure BS. :lol: Some people have addictions, including various eating disorders, which are medically recognized. Any study claiming that over 99% of the entire obese population is suffering from nothing more than overeating is ridiculous on it face in my opinion.

How about some reference where you got that figure TW.

Author:  Pacifica55 [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:05 pm ]
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Fortunately I have never been diagnosed as morbidly obese or even obese but I did know someone who was morbidly obese. No amount of dieting helped.


Can't buy it. The human body is a simple machine. Put in less fuel than you burn and it runs on reserves stored as fat. Put in more than you burn and it stores the excess.

To my way of thinking, the US has gone waaaaay to far to make it comfortable for people to be gluttons and show it. There are no "big boned" people and the extra weight will kill you. How many really fat old people do, you see? Virtually none! There is a reason for that.

Yes, people are free to eat, drink and be merry but that does not mean we are doing them a favor by condoning the activity. Simple changes in diet and activity levels will take the weight off in time.

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