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 Post subject: Mind of the hooker
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:40 am 
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Taken from another threadI believe the following post by CT is worthy of its own thread.

some very valuable information and necessary direction to help in enjoying the time spent roaming around the streets and bars and MP's of San Jose

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What a lot of guys don't seem to understand is that there is a major psychological component to the hooker lifestyle (I'm only speaking of the female side). Sure we have problems too, but lets talk about them.

By nature, women usually try to attract the best male partner available and pretty much stick with him. Okay - there are many exceptions and this could be a generalization. But, my point is that putas need to kind of rewire they way their brains work. For many of them, it is easy, because they have been victims of sexual abuse, and such, and don't have much respect for themselves and ESPECIALLY don't respect men.

Many putas are just really mean/bad people. They HATE men and don't respect themselves, which is why they can turn-off all emotional attachment and spread their legs mutliple times per day with total strangers for pay. On top of that, many are chronic thieves with a whole host of other issues such as drug addiction.

Looking back at my mongering days, I can't tell you how many of these girls have borderline personality disorder. Yep - thats right. Look it up and then decide if you want to form a relationship with one of these girls. With BPD, the girls are completely empty inside. They have dissociated many aspects of their lives, including love and sex. This is due to sexual abuse and/or abandonment. They are suicidal and constantly want to injure themselves. Yep - I met several girls who were cutters. This is also why they don't respect their bodies. They neurotically would enjoy slicing cuts in their arms because that took the "real" pain away. Furthermore, people with BPD are incapable of forming relationships. They view people as nothing more than objects to be used and abused. They go through life hurting people. They lie and steal and have ZERO remorse. They have major problems with outbursts of anger and can act completely inappropriate at times. All of this with zero quilt or remorse.


I concur 100% in this assessment and would hope a lot of guys would take the message...

There is very little a guy with a fistful of 100"s can do to change their behavior...the food, the clothes, the ipod, jewerly, your fancy room...have no bearing on their psychologial issues..

here is where you/we need to take a good look in your fancy mirror and make the hard decission...

Am I special enough to be different...sorry the answer is no

once you understand this to the max you'll have a ball, as I have been doing for a couple of years now. Just take the hour or two for what it is and move on.

as recent as last night I overheard a fellow trying to convince a columbinian DR gal to spend the weekend in his fancy condo on the beach in San Andreas

his offer was to pay for her food, airfare and room and entertainment...really and he thought she might go for it..oh well

enjoy, enjoy enjoy

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Yeah, and if he had added a shopping trip for new beach cloths and a $1000 cash, you are damn right she would have gone for the offer. :roll: :wink:

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I think it is very important that we have realistic expectations when dealing with the chicas. It is also important not to generalize them and to pay attention to our little internal voice of intuition, IMHO.

Like all women, some are saner than others. The better we are at sorting out the thieves and psychos the better our chances of having a good experience. Networking seems to be very helpful both when making selections and for reality checks. Pulla Vulva...

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Pacifica55 wrote:
Pulla Vulva...


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The post by Chi-Trekker quoted above came from one of the "hooker-novia break-up" threads. So I'll address it in that context.

It's always dangerous to over-generalize about a class of individuals, as everyone is different. I have to say that in my exposure to several hundred working girls in CR over a period of several years, I have met very few who seemed to hate themselves, and none that I can recall being noticeably suicidal, to the point of "cutting" themselves to take the real pain away. Not to say that isn't the case with some, just that I haven't run into any. And with most, I have no idea if sexual abuse or abandonment had anything to do with their choice of lifestyle - most of my time with them isn't spent trying to psychoanalyze them.

Here's what I will say about them going directly from first-hand observed evidence. Most seem to come from very poor backgrounds and live in "bad" areas, often with a large extended family. The vast majority have had one or more Ch*ldren outside of marriage, with no support from the father. Very, very few have been to college, or have any marketable job skills. Many seem irresponsible, showing up late or even totally blowing off appointments, or making commitments in advance they have no intention of keeping. Very few seem to go out of their way to eat well, exercise, or otherwise do anything to stay healthy and in shape. Very few seem to have interests that go beyond shopping, dancing and partying.

Okay, given all of the above, I would have to ask myself, "even if a young attractive girl here in the U.S. fitting this profile were to show an interest in me, is this the sort of person I would want to make any sort of commitment to and have a relationship with?"

The answer, obviously - no. Then why would I be interested in starting a relationship with such a girl in Latin America?

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I have encountered many who were quite nice especially my favoritas. I don't think many are even that hateful of gringos. The ones in the low rent MP's seem to not like us too much. If I didn't "know the game so well," I could really fall for some of my favoritas.

One thing is for sure, they are wired to think entirely differently than we do. They are not long term thinkers, not even short run thinkers, they think in the right now. And most, are unreliable and never on time, and may or may not show for dates.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:09 am 
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Gents, I am impatient this morning, which prompts me to ask:

Do any of the guys proseletyzing about the psychology of hookers actually have any educational background in psychology, beyond Psych 1001? Seriously. Any psychotherapists here? Not industrial psychologists, or non-therapy types, but therapists or even social psychologists?

BPD: DSMIV. With all due respect to Chi Trekker, whom I respect and like very much... is he professionally qualified to make that observation?

Frankly, I think most of our observations about chica psychology, including mine are bullshit.


Pay them, treat them nice, screw them, say adios after the hour or two. There's your psychotherapy. :D
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Points well taken, El C.

The biggest psych change I see is not in the chicas but in the gringos. They arrive unable to observe anything but glistening breasts and thighs. Their minds are unable to process info at a rate necessary to analyze anything beyond the fact that this twenty-something hottie is somehow interested in them.

After a few weeks they are finally able to see beyond the silicone and start to sort the chicas with a bit of intuition and attention to the messages she is sending non-verbally that reveal more of her true self. That seems to be when their sessions get really good.

I believe CalifKen is batting about .950 with one foul-out. Skosh is right at .1000. He listened to network advice until he got his feet under him and is now fairly confident sorting out the DR girls on his own. He is a good listener and a willing student and I am glad that he is doing so well.

Off to SL for a report on last night's assault. Mine was completely off the charts.... Pulla Vulva!

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El Ciego: My exact feelings about this subject also.

There is no way anyone can justify lumping all or even most putas here into one group or back ground. Americans tend to have a big problem excepting that what is frequently a profile of a group of people in the USA is not the case in other countries. Americans can not except that many of the developing countries do not have the same attitudes and views towards prostitution.

Also, many of the guys with the very negative attitudes and ideas concerning why a Tica is a puta are guys that have had very bad experiences after becoming emocionally envolved with a puta.

There are putas that have psyciological problems, histories of physical and or sexual abuse; disfunctional family back grounds; a few are distructive; some are theives, some are habitual liers, some are emotionally and mentally very immature (actually maybe many). There are also putas that are highly educated, come from wealthy families, are very emotionally stable, would never steal nor lie (well maybe a little white lie for a negocio), are very ambitious and pluck because they can make a lot more money plucking Gringos than they can doing anything else. And there are putas that do it just because "they like it"

Many are basically just normal chicas who have been dealt a bad hand in life; have 3-4 K*ds and an ex that refuses to help, have no or little education, and the only non puta work they can find here pays maybe $200 a month--and you can not feed 3-5 people, much less cloth and house, on $200 a month here. They become putas, not because of emotional problems nor physical or sexual abuse,, not to steal nor cheat, not because the like the work, BUT because they see NO other way to feed and cloth their K*ds.. AND NO MATHER WHAT WE AMERICANS MAY THINK THEY HAVE AS OPTIONS, THEY SEE NO OTHER OPTION!

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BangBang57 wrote:
Many are basically just normal chicas who have been dealt a bad hand in life; ... They become putas, not because of emotional problems nor physical or sexual abuse,, not to steal nor cheat, not because the like the work, BUT because they see NO other way to feed and cloth their K*ds.. AND NO MATHER WHAT WE AMERICANS MAY THINK THEY HAVE AS OPTIONS, THEY SEE NO OTHER OPTION!


Absolutely agree, BangBang. Well said.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:38 am 
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BangBang57 wrote:
Many are basically just normal chicas who have been dealt a bad hand in life; have 3-4 K*ds and an ex that refuses to help, have no or little education, and the only non puta work they can find here pays maybe $200 a month--and you chey become putas, not because of emotional problems nor physical or sexual aban not feed 3-5 people, much less cloth and house, on $200 a month here.

JUST MY OPINIONS

That sounds like about 95 percent of the Putas in DR. Although I have noticed many have been emotionally put on ice due to past experiences and as far as sexual abuse during childhood....probably a facilitator towards being a puta but then a quarter of the nation would be putas. :shock:


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Humans are like snowflakes, there are no two exactly alike.

IMHO, when I speak in negative generalities about a person, or any groups of people, it is just my ego wanting to justify, and make right, my thoughts. It makes myself more than someone/something else in my mind. Although it does not make it a truth, no matter how much I would like it to be.

I am one-half of the phrase whore monger. Neither half would be able to survive without the other, nor is one better than the other.

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Santas Bro wrote:
Humans are like snowflakes, there are no two exactly alike.

IMHO, when I speak in negative generalities about a person, or any groups of people, it is just my ego wanting to justify, and make right, my thoughts. It makes myself more than someone/something else in my mind. Although it does not make it a truth, no matter how much I would like it to be.

I am one-half of the phrase whore monger. Neither half would be able to survive without the other, nor is one better than the other.

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Well said SB.No two chicas are exactly the same!


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DrForm wrote:
Santas Bro wrote:
Humans are like snowflakes, there are no two exactly alike.

IMHO, when I speak in negative generalities about a person, or any groups of people, it is just my ego wanting to justify, and make right, my thoughts. It makes myself more than someone/something else in my mind. Although it does not make it a truth, no matter how much I would like it to be.

I am one-half of the phrase whore monger. Neither half would be able to survive without the other, nor is one better than the other.

Health & happiness to all..

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Well said SB.No two chicas are exactly the same!


Agreed.

Anyone care to argue that hookers on balance make just as good a candidate for a relationship as a non-pro?

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 Post subject: Anaysis Ad Nauseum
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:38 pm 
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Hi Guys,

As a Newbie, I don't have a wealth of CR experience, but certainly enjoy this Board for 3 reasons: A certain camaraderie, entertainment about CRT brothers' adventures, and gathering intell. to make my upcoming trips better.

I'm kind of surprised regarding the frequency and vehemency of threads like this one, where people really seem to get OCD about: Why are they doing it? Is it just for the money? Are they really rats, or are they just nice people in dire economic circumstances, etc.? Should I get tangled up with a DR Tica? What are the pluses and minuses of long term puta relationships?

While I enjoy reading all the threads, I kind of wonder why members seem to care so much about these issues.


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