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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:32 pm 
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I have a friend I hope to have wing with me to CR in October. He told me how in the 70s he would take little gold bracelets with him to Vegas and would give them to the girls, resulting in seriously discounted sessions.

We can get nice bracelets for about $12-$14 each. I am wondering if presenting the chicas with these little tokens is likely to make for a better session or overall lower price..I am also thinking about bringing along little bottles of liquor and chocolates you don't find in CR.

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Many guys will tell you not to do it.....that it's similar to the "dreaded tipping." Whether it be tipping or giving other tokens of appreciation.....it's only "human nature" for the recipient, to of course, appreciate it.....I have yet to see any of them turn it down. I can't remember a time that I ever turned down a gift or cash that someone was giving to me. :?

Does it make a difference in price or quality?............most assuredly. My network of regulars always await my arrival with hopeful anticipation of what I am bringing for themselves and their bebes from the U.S. :)

I have no plans to stop doing it. Why ruin a good thing? 8)

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Thanks for the response, Zebra.

I have even thought about stocking up on barbie dolls, etc. to give the chicas for their ninos and ninas. I have a 6 y/o duaghter and a 7 y/o son who get about anything they want. I often think about rounding up the toys they don't use anymore and taking them to CR.

It seems that giving freely of non-monetary gifts is a way to up the ante with the chicas without necessarily raising their expectations for $. One chica I have a considerable connection with only goes with a narrow pool of men. She is picky. I can't help but think many chicas are this way and a little effort up front will win them over to play in a less businesslike fashion. That is just one angle.


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CCR,

I like your way of thinking.

The ninas like Barbie dolls........WAL-MART $5

The ninos like Matchbox cars [set of 5]....WAL-MART $5

The chicas like Victoria's Secret :D

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:23 pm 
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No…No…No…. NO PRESENTS….Here’s my past experience, it all started for me with a little piece of pawn-shop gold…..

I spent about $$ on the whole deal, Cheap right….. but then on my next trip,
Her first words where ...

“Papi, no presents?”…. :roll::roll::roll:

Of course after that, before every trip I would buy her more jewelry, clothes, purfume from there it went to unlocked cell phones, then she started with wanting little shit like blenders, CD-players, radios, DVD players, Hell the last present she wanted was a refrigerator & a AC unit for her little apartment in the DR

WTF... :evil: The power goes out hourly in her hood... :twisted::evil::twisted:

Before I finally had enough, it was a present for every phucking holiday- any birthday-somebody died - mother-day-rug-rat-day- "you name it day"

Then her sisters started asking for presents .

ENOUGH



Please take my advice, and Keep the present giving and Schopping trips to a minimum….

Once it gets out of hand, there no turning it around… spend the money on her when you’re with her. Treat her to a nice dinner, take her dancing, but take it easy, and please don’t spoil her…

But if you where like me, and refuse to listen to some one who’s been there done that….
Remember … only Gold… no silver…they can’t pawn the silver as well gold….. :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Iggy… :P


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I hope you stick to that plan. 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:39 pm 
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You're right, it's hard to stop the merry go round once it gets-ta-rolling... :?

It's not just the present giving thing either, it goes deeper......
For me the wake-call took a little time to sink in... some guys just learn a little quicker then others...

Iggy... :P


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:43 pm 
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You let things get out of control.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:46 pm 
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Crookedcr wrote:
We can get nice bracelets for about $12-$14 each. I am wondering if presenting the chicas with these little tokens is likely to make for a better session or overall lower price..
Thanks in advance.


After spending the $12-$14 for the gifts that would mean only $6-$8 left for the session....

Me thinks she would rather have the $20...at least the ones I know would


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That why i say, take it easy..treat her dinner..dancing....little shit...never make a promise.....the whole thing about CR is taking it slow.....I did not follow any of the rules and spoiled her right off.

that was my mistake and all I'm saying is don't make the same... :wink:

iggy... :P


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I think the key phrase here is "developing a network of long term regulars." To do this, naturally you have to start somewhere. Little things you do initially tend to reap payoffs.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:51 pm 
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If you stick to small presents i see no problem in that. Taking a chica shopping is worse than a RFM(don't do it)!


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SCHOPPING....IS ALSO EXTREMELY EXPENISIVE..... :shock:

I think the lesson to be learned here...is if you spoil them, WTF...as Z said" I let it get out of hand...what did I expect.... :shock:

Iggy... :P


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:11 pm 
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Igualmente wrote:
SCHOPPING....IS ALSO EXTREMELY EXPENISIVE..... :shock:

I think the lesson to be learned here...is if you spoil them, WTF...as Z said" I let it get out of hand...what did I expect.... :shock:

Iggy... :P
As long as you learned your lesson amigo!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:19 pm 
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Crookedcr wrote:
We can get nice bracelets for about $12-$14 each. I am wondering if presenting the chicas with these little tokens is likely to make for a better session or overall lower price.
Oh sure, give them a $12-14 bracelet and they might be willing to lower their price $6-7. Just kidding.

I think the act of giving them SOMEthing beyond just cash helps both of you better harbor the illusion that what you're each doing is more than basically just a commercial sex transaction and that in turn will lead to better session for both of you as well. Others may disagree but I think most of these chicas don't want to see themselves as hookers and many enjoy the BFFE as much as we enjoy the GFFE, even if ultimately in reality it mostly comes down to the cash for them.

The question is how lavish a gift does one have to give to achieve that illusion and get an appreciative chica who goes all out for you as a result and as what point would the chicas just as soon have the cold hard cash to spend as they like. Personally, I think that breakeven point comes quite low. Giving them something, ANYthing even if it is just something from the dollar store gives them the message that you see them as something more than just a whore. In other words the gift you give them is not so much the material item as much as a TOKEN or symbol that they mean something to you more than just a P4P provider. Anything beyond that, beyond what they could just as easily buy themselves is overkill because it then becomes another form of compensation and not just a symbol. If its a chica you expect to see again, overly generous gifts might also foster an expectation of more and greater gifts each time you see her.

IMHO, give them inexpensive gifts to keep their expectations small while still humanizing the encounter and promise them a cash reward at the end of your session if you are really happy. Ultimately, while gifts are nice and appreciated, its cash that they really want.

BTW, a $12-14 bracelet may seem inexpensive to you but amounts to a fifth of a typical ST session. That sounds like more of a TIP amount to me than a TOKEN. YMMV.


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