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We've all heard about women and their "biological clock" issues - the anxiety about their ability to conceive as they approach their mid-30s and 40s.

But what about us? Is there a point in one's mongering life where the effects of physical decline from aging kick in to the degree that, as BB King put it "the thrill is gone?"

Here's the issue for me - as I approach the half-century mark, I'll be in position where I can choose a "front-loaded" approach - where I apply a lot of resources to enjoying the next few years as much as possible; or the traditional conservative "back-end" approach - keep working and saving another 12 years or so, and then - if all goes well - retire reasonably comfortably somewhere outside of the U.S. in my early 60s, and monger to my little heart's content. It's really either one or the other...and I'm not overly concerned about the consequences down the line of choosing the first option if that's how it pans out.

But if I do decide to wait, will the libido cooperate? Yes, of course we now have all the ED drugs, but I don't think of these as a total panacea. You still have to have the desire mentally.

Some of the long-time board members may remember Mexpat, who collected his writings on the board about living in CR in a great book called "Living La Vida Loca in Costa Rica". For him, age 57 was a turning point. He comments, "I suddenly realized it was about then that I started to experience what they call andropause. It's sort of like a male menopause. A hormonal change. What happens is the amount of testerone being produced in your body declines and you start to lose libido. You sex drive slows way down. You're not necessarily impotent, but you gradually lose interest in sex. I strongly suspect that most guys that are still mongering at my age are doing it more out of habit and denial than out of any real desire."

I also think about the "desirability" factor. Sure, it's all about the money, but I really believe in the principal that (quoting Jadcujo in a recent post) "with all the bullshit aside you can really have GFE's anytime you want. If you are a person this girl would hook up with anyway, then you can almost assure yourself of a real experience..it's also about game, looks, interest level..." Session quality matters to me big time, and at the moment, I'm fortunate enough to get very good ones most of the time. But I have to wonder if there's going to be a point where the physical effects of aging kick in to the degree where it would be impossible to imagine being 'someone a girl would hook up with anyways' - making the fantasy even harder to sustain.

I'm really interested what others on the board think - especially those approaching midlife or older facing the same sorts of issues. Thanks for any input...

GR

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The big "5-0" got ya in a reflection moment, did it?

You have 2 choices:

1) Fight it with everything you got.

2) Let the aging process take its toll.

I think you already know the answer, though, Mr. Rythym. You work out hard and right there; that is 95% of the game. What I see usually happening to people is they give up on their bodies. I have seen people in their twenties with bodies and minds of 70 year olds. Without using any drugs, you could easily keep rocking into your 70s. If you use EDs and hormone treatments; you could maybe buy another 10 years.

May I recommend a great book called Eat, Drink, and Be Merry by Dr. Dean Edell? He is a great hippy doctor and he tells it like it is. Its all about the ride...

Party on!

-Partyanimal

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My readings on this were helpful to me from about mid-40's on.

Have a Great Day,

Dave

GR,

Too much time on your hands…get you ass out to the beach and go rollerblading!

But an interesting thought…It’s now being said that 50 is the old 35 and 70 is the old 50…you get the drift. Party Animal is dead on with the comment about taking care of our bodies... and the technology that is out there today with the cardio and resistance machines as well as diet info will keep us going for many more years. Comes down to a mental thing…I tend to believe that if you are spending the effort to take care of your body, you will have the mental desire to continue on sexually.

As far as a financial thing…I have to go with something in the middle. We defiantly need to think about our retirement, but I see to many guys who only know how to work, even after retiring, just habit. They never took time to relax, enjoy travel and the world and now they can’t physically and mentally. Great, their k*ds will spend their money for them. We need to keep putting the $$$ aside for retirement and continue to travel (read: monger). I have found that since I have discovered mongering/travel that I have a renewed interest in working harder/more (the work hard, play hard theory), I enjoy my job, made my part time business even more profitable and now I’ve started consulting. I think daily of why I am working and my daily quick read of CRT and other boards reinforce my desires to get back to CR/LOS and focus me on how to make more money to spend on travel as well as funding my retirement.

Sounds to me like you’ve possibly made to many trips lately…getting used to the way of life. Put your nose to the grindstone…use some the same energy that you put into you physical workouts into business. Work harder, make more money, save more… BUT continue to plan and schedule your time off and take more exotic trips!!! We, the male of the species are extreme creatures of habit. You’re in a very comfortable rut GR… challenge yourself for a few years and then re-asses your situation…

Just my 2 cents

Mendo

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Very interesting, I noticed a tailing off starting at about fifty-five. Its become more noticable lately I'm sixty two now, and without adding unessesary chatter, there is a gradule drop off in libido. Thankfully ED supplements do help, but even then, with me its more and more about the chemistry between me and the girl. Gone are the days like when I was in Panama on my way to Nam, and I did four girls in an hour and a half. Oh well, I still enjoy love making or sex whatever you want to call it. Just not at the same level of importance, and now that I'm older there are so many other things that I can appreciate, that I couldnt when I was younger.

A friend of the same age as I have the same discussion all the time. Our consensus is that if you can pull the trigger on retirement earlier albeit with fewer colones in the retirement account, it is worth it to do it, if you are sure that your reserves will last until the ...end. There are some creative and safe ways to earn money with whatever capital you have while resting on a beach somewhere, but I will leave that for another post.

The main reason is that no one gets out alive and your health tends to slide more rapidly as we enter our golden years, so if you can pull the trigger in you late 40s or early fifties it is probably worth it to do so. Cheers.

GetRhythm:

I have no life-changing information for you only a look at my experience. At this time I am 60. I made my first visit to Costa Rica a little over 10 years ago at the age of 50. Shortly after that first visit the last real romance I had in my life came to a very unsatisfying end that made me question my status as a man. The supply of lovely young women in Costa Rica was nourishment that my deflated ego needed desperately. For the next eight years I inflated my ego with numerous trips to Costa Rica and even more numerous conquests. On most trips I was doing three a day out of the Del Rey. Then about two or three years ago the frequency of visits continued but the number of conquest shrank to one a day. The difference being not physical but mental. It took six or seven years but I finally realized developing a relationship was as exhilarating as doing three a day. Now let me qualify myself here by what I mean by a relationship. I'm not talking about falling in love. It's what I call Del Rey love or you might put it as a one trip romance.

Now what the hell am I talking about. You ask if the libido dies as you get older. In my case the libido has not died the food that it needs to stay alive has evolved. I get as much pleasure from one girl now as I did when I was doing three a day.

At one point in time I pondered the same financial consideration you're talking about. Being in good health having a body that has aged well. Okay those of you who know me can stop laughing I decided financial security came first. My thought was what if I was sitting there a sexually active 65-year-old with beautiful young women who were willing all around me but not a dime to my name. Not a pretty thought.

Lee[/code]

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I'll go with the advice of one of my all time favourite quotes...

My life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming...." MAN....WHAT A RIDE!!!!"

Live life NOW. Carpe Diem.

You never know if you'll get hit by a bus, and be stuck on life support for the next 10 years...

Interesting Post , I guess if one was to base there retirement value on the ability to Fuch then this is the place to post about it . My two cents : The most articulate and intelligent peron I have ever meet is approaching his golden years and what he said about it was something ill never forget :

Life slowely takes away all the things I based my self esteem on ,My athleticism ,My intellect ,My sexuality ect.. as they go so does my self esteem . I need to be happy with who I am, its an inside Job.

Personally I would play the cards im dealt ,live for today and plan for tommoro ,when I have one foot in yesterday one in tommoro im pissing on today . Save some money You will need it . Im 40 and I have the drive of a 21 yr old frat boy on Viagra . Ill worry about 50 when im there .

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Greetings:

Lee sounds like he is becoming m-monogamus. D-doesn't b-bother me a bit.

So, do we feel that life is passing us by as we age? Are we less and less vital? Do the technological advances come on too fast for us?

Sure. That is why we need pu*sy. It is comfort food. Even if we can't phuck it, we can still eat it.

Regards,
-Wmax2

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But, perhaps it is the dove that hungers and the night shall shiver in the end.

Noble sentiments indeed, and as much as I'd like to follow them, my ego just won't allow it. As far as I'm concerned, when my physical vitality is gone, it's over. Which is a lot of the reason I work so hard to maintain appearances. No way I want to end up being one of those old ex-pats slowly drinking themselves to death at the New York Bar one scotch at a time...

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GetRhythm

A post right up my alley!! Indeed, I have been thinking along these lines for a few months now. I am 50 and if I work another 9 years or so, I will be financially secure and able to live in relative comfort anywhere I choose. Financial security is a deeply inculcated goal that neither a "live for today" attitude nor a choice to live in less expensive environs will alter.

The reaching of middle age has also caused me to rethink health issues. While I have always been able to achieve at a fairly high level, my inability to stay slim has always been my achilles heel. I am working on that, and will always have to work on that. Despite obesity, I am still very healthy. Additionally, in terms of "men's health," it is a rare occasion in my life that I can not get erect and ejaculate. I don't use viagra or cialis or that ilk. My problem, if any, is that I come too fast.

In my prime, I could screw a girl (who wasn't even that hot) 5 times in 6 hours. I do not really look forward to that ability again. In my mind, today, I am just as horny as I ever was. I suspect that I will always feel that way.

I have accepted that my life will continue to be one of mongering, even after retirement. I don't know whether I will move to Costa Rica or anyother land of plenty, but I would like to have that option. I can't exactly envision what I will be doing, and how I will be doing it, but it all involves ravishing delightful young women.

If I have a few good years and manage to work real hard, I might be able to retire even earlier, say 57-58. But like Mendobrew said, since I found mongering (foreign, not domestic), I have begun to focus more on hard work and saving $$ so that I travel unencumbered at a relatively young age. They say, after all, that the most important thing in retirement is to have a hobby. Boy have I found a hobby And one I intend to continue to enjoy, as I have found the trips to Costa Rica less expensive than stateside hobbying.

Thanks for the thought provoking inquiry.

Ciaociao

I am 58, and this is my take on the situation. I retired at 50 because I had spent enough time in a cubicle and knew that I could survive, at worst, on the results of what I had done so far. I don't regret stopping my 'career' despite the fact that I could be worth 2x what I am now. MAYBE you'll be one of those rare cases that will still want to do 3 girls a day at the age of 70. The probablility is that you won't. I enjoy 'company' several times a week but it's not like when I was even 40. God bless those who can C*m 3 times a day at age 60. I admire them, envy them, but can't join the club. Even if I could, I wouldn't have to spend even $100 a day to satisfy my sex drive. The bottom line is that you have to decide which way to play the over/under on this. What are the odds, and what are the consequences if you decide to wait until 60 and find you have more money than you need? Likewise, what are the odds and consequences if you find yourself with more desire and less money than you want at 60? My own guess is that you are more likely to end up with more money than you need than more sex drive than you need. Just my opinion, though.

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I will be 60 in January. I still wake up with the "woody" every morning. I suppose that I could retire now, and move to CR or elsewhere and live a comfortable life, but choose to work because I like being busy, and I am very good at what I do. A very manly thing, self worth and all that B.S.

I gave up dating Gringas years ago. Women that are in the age group that I would date are at least as phucked up as I am. I have no desire for a dysfunctional, or any other type, of relationship at this point in my life. The AMP's with the hot young Asian's are fine with me. My first, and only trip to CR was not "a life altering situation" that is so often stated on the board. Having phucked hundreds of women in my life, it was just 8 more "notches on the belt." Did I have fun, hell yes. I will have even a better time on my next trip in September. Most of the mistakes that I made on my first trip will not be repeated.

Being an athlete everyone gave 110%. Since I had to be the best, I gave 150%. This has carried over in my life. Basically my life has been made up of excessive abuse. Drugs, women, alcohol, you name it. If one was good, a hundred was better. In my life I have been an alcoholic, a drug addict, and womanizer. I learned from that, anything that I do to excess becomes boring. The first high is always that highest.

In the past 10 years I have been on a different life path. One of the things that I have learned is that when I am not thinking thoughts that serve my highest being, to change that thought immediately. What was the best moment in your life? What if you carried that thought in every moment of your life? How would your life be different? What's at risk to drop the negative, and become the King in your own mind? You are only one thought away from being there!!!

Happy Father's Day to all.

Santas Bro

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Regarding the question of when to retire and how much money is needed:

You do not want to be old and poor.