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In the last year I've spent over 7 months in Latin America and the last 5 in the States. The difference has been what you would expect; a completely different culture with little similarity when it comes to sex. It's as though we're on women's "schedules" and adjust to their "dating style" here. We conform, fall in step, and accept whatever is doled out. Women here are not motivated whatsoever to adapt to men's patterns of behavior, particularly to their sexual desires. That's true of civilians and p4p'ers. It's really a wonderful place to be a woman; lots of giggles with girlfriends, cell phones and iPods to insulate themselves, and plenty of drooling men and money when the urge strikes them to have sex and/or do biz.

It's all about women here. Even young, good-looking guys are not immune to the "men are a dime a dozen" phenom, or the "jumping through hoops" requirement. It's all about what women want, when they want it, and how. And when they "forget," you better enjoy it. Cop a bad attitude and you missed one of those "hoops." Mostly women don't even realize the impact when they don't show, don't call, or dress provocatively and then amuse themselves with their girlfriends. Sometimes they don't respond online, and generally seem to be so patient and blasé, as to be almost comatose at times. I'll be in Colombia and Brazil soon for 5 weeks and I'm counting the seconds until my departure. The concerns there will be mirror images of those here; worry over how to manage several civilian girls whom I've befriended over the past few years. They write, are responsive, expect me to see them the day I arrive, etc. And when I want to monger, I’ll have to get creative, something I know many CRT’ers have experienced with favoritas.

I've gotten into some hardcore discussions with a few girls here, comparing girls of other cultures with some I’ve met here. That has been a "powder keg!" On the one hand, they have to acknowledge the Latina's beauty because I email them photos. They also have to acknowledge those girls have a magnetism which attracts us. But the gringas here I dialogue with pawn it off as “good business,” and faking it real good. Their argument comes down to something convoluted, like, "Yes, we admit those girls make you happy, but it's not real because they're desperate, so wise up and stay here where you'll spend more but get the real story, even if you're less satisfied and perpetually horny."

Latinas almost always appear to appreciate attention from gringos, as long as they're not creepy. Here women give an impression they can take it or leave it, and prefer leaving it often. When I was 30 driving a new white RX7, with a good job and a lean bod, it was NO DIFFERENT. In some ways it was worse, threatening gringa's superior position. Of course at the time, I had no clue of any of this. For me it was just a continuation of high school and college days where guys fell in step, and the term “get lucky” was the gist of everyday life.

I decided this next trip I'm not going to be as "sex focused," but rather relish the limitless, wonderful company as a goal, meritorious in its own right. And when I come back I'll tell some local girls here it was a blast, and if it's so easy to "fake," then they might consider this "good business” strategy for themselves.

Of course, they're not capable…

Jazz

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"Don't never trust a woman, till she's dead and deep....One day she'll say she loves you, next day she'll throw you on the street."

"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

I had a great time dating when I was younger in the US. After 25 or so it turned to a hassle grande . Aside from dating and sex, girls are so uptight just to hang out with. I have a much better time here in CR. Nothing against US girls, just done with them. Pura Vida.

My problem was I was done with them years before I found Costa Rica! Doesn't seem like such a problem anymore
Good post Jazz.

Jazz, I sure do relate.

What it felt like to me when I was living in Peru was I had a "normal" dating life for the first time in my life. Now it was true as it turned out during my 6 months there none of the relatively rare super-hot civilian girls (8.5's and up) I met that I felt a real wild attraction for wanted to be my pareja, as like hot women everywhere these chicas are in demand and can pick and choose. But on the plus side they almost all treated me sweetly and with respect (I can only recall one exception). A couple of sweet and reasonably attractive age 30 and under girls I would happily accept as easily the best I could do back here in the states, even truly fell in love and shed tears over me. One of them is truly dear to me and one of the best persons I have ever met, 100% good in her heart and sincere in a way I wish I was myself. And we did have a blast together first dating and just hanging out as friends when after some difficulty she accepted me as I was, a man who cared for her but didn't want to be her boyfriend. My desires dicktated that I couldn't be happy with her as a pareja and I needed to pursue other options, so what could I do?

I do have a chica from the northern province of Peru, where many of the truly sweetest girls in Peru with the best figures come from, who I consider a solid 8, early 20's but mature, who wants to be my girl. I am thinking she is potential real gf material as besides her being very sweet and caring with a lovely smile, I am pretty desirous for her body, more than any of the other civs I met who showed the same mutual interest for me. I hope to return soon and travel with her for a week or two and get to know her better.

Regarding the other side of relationships in Peru...the easy and more natural P4P available there, in the best cases with women that treated you like a passionate girlfriend for the afternoon or night and showed affection, desire and horniness as "real" as one could imagine, was a very nice bonus. P4P gave me the opportunity to tag super-hot girls of a level that I hadn't quite succeeded in seducing when they were of the civilian persuasion. The best of these chicas just left me in such a contented state of afterglow for a day or two following; I don't know where for me here in the states this kind of experience is possible to have. It is tragic that what the great majority of American men have to settle for locally is, lets face it, pretty poor product. They never really have a chance to live moments of true sweet satisfaction that deep down they might dream about if it wasn't too painful to contemplate fully. At least us guys on these boards can get the good stuff in fits and starts at a minimum - knowing what sweet opportunities lie in wait for us at long distance at some future time, hopefully pretty soon, can make the cages many of us feel stuck in in the present endurable.

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la loma...I want brown eyes...rica...I'm in a state
Pixies, No.13 Baby

The big difference I've noticed about most latin women....they appreciate what you do for them and to treat them as a human being. American women feel you have to do certain things for them and they deserve it.

Now,we have to accept some of the responsibility, if men change their behavior towards American women they in turn will change theirs. Easier said than done.

I've been seeing two latin keepers,it's baffling how different they are than our American women. Soooooooo....refreshing!!



Enjoy!

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Hello..room service? Could you send up some (!) please!

If I was Single and had enough money to retire and live in comfort it would be a no brainer..I'd move to a Latin Country or at least 9 Months out of the Year !

Good post. I used to joke that travelers get 5 bonus points when they are visiting a country where they like whatever country you are visiting from. And it is true even when visiting a predominantly Anglo country like Australia or Ireland.

With possible apology to NFlorida, whose ex-wife, mother and sisters are gringas, I think that the gringa situation has evolved according to the law of unintended consequences. They petitioned for equality under law, but ended up with more than equivalent treatment pertaining to sexual harassment, Ch*ld custody, divorce etc, etc. but still demand chivalrous treatment that they were accustomed to before all of this happened.

Good point about the iPod, cellphone etc, it seems like a gringa can’t be alone with their own vapid thoughts.

Anyway, glad you are free to spend so much time in Latin America, any place but here.

LittleKing:




That just about sums it up for me. So much depends on where you live. It's usually not a question of having sex vs. not having sex, at least in most U.S. urban areas. And regarding being a challenge to women, that's been talked about here much; no question women like bad boys.

What's really at issue is the quality of the dating or p4p experience in the States. To find the quality of willing females here that one takes for granted in South America, one must work hard. I'm not referring to one-on-one, longterm relationships, where it's quite possible to find both love and fantasy. I'm talking about dating and p4p. It simply doesn't exist here in a comparable way. Finding sweet/sexy American girls on any grand scale here is impossible, not to mention an oxymoron. It would take a mass education of gringas, which will never happen. I try in my small way.

So, yes, we're lucky to have an "out" from this repression. And it's true, so many men don't...

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"Don't never trust a woman, till she's dead and deep....One day she'll say she loves you, next day she'll throw you on the street."

"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

I have discussed the situation with several American women. Generally, they dismiss this Latina behavior as a quest for money. One even said "it is an amazing aphrodesiac, hunger is."

We all know that it is more than that. There was a book published about 10 years ago called The Game which is basically a playbook on how to date American women. For all practical purposes; you treat them like shit. They love it and come back for more...

-PA1984

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The only solution to deal with gringas is rape.

And I'm no rapist. Ergo, Latinas Siempre!

I am not just disillusioned with gringas; I'm angry. North American and European women have forgotten their biological imperitives, their role in loving and supportive relationships and the enjoyment they could be deriving from passionate sex.

But can you blame them? Sex is shoved into our faces from video and computer screens, from billboards and the stages of strip clubs. Most of us are so overexposed to sexual tittilation here that rather than being aroused, most of us have become innurred to real sexual passion.

And women here have fought for, and won financial independence and the chance to build their own careers. One only has so much time and energy to expend, and we've given women the idea that the only acceptible expenditure of her time is to work/earn, thus limiting time for "traditional" female roles.

As the American Consumerism Cancer (you call it capitalism and a free market economy) continues to infect the world and driving us all to our inevitable choking, starving end...you'll see the Latinas become Gringas. Hey, they have satellite TV too.

So comfort yourselves in the (probably false) assertion that there is a real difference between gringas and the rest of the ovarians. You're deluded. At least you'll seem to be deluded as the world, and its women continue to change.

Remember, they're trying to kill us, whether gringa or latina.

I just spoke with the guy who was best man at my wedding 20 years ago. At age 46, he's absolutely given up sex. Considering the c*nt who divorced him, I can't blame him... but to give up sex at 46 years old? Tha's just plain unhealthy.

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Women try to get from men what they want/need and we do the same with them. Fortunately we can go to countries South and have sex at will with women, some of whom also are good company. A lot of American women are spiteful, angry, opportunistic people. But a lot of the girls we come in contact with mongering are exactly the same given the right circumstances. It's not fair to give American girls a completely bad rap. The fact is, a lot of us come in contact by nature with a lot of crappy girls. That's your/our fault. But all American girls are not bad and some are very good. We say they are clueless if they aren't tuned in to what we want and willing to give it. It frustrates us. But you have to remember that you have your best interests in mind, not theirs.

My thoughts exactly. Everything we (USA) touches turns to sh*t. Sure I'll get flamed by a few but, we all have our opinions and that is mine as well.

dapanz1

Even if one thinks this consumerism is healthy and good for the world, you still cannot deny that the spread of American culture and business affects each person in the developing world it touches. Enough commercials for Coka, Lexus and Advil, and the local folks staring at the electric fishbowl begin desiring the same things. This is called expanding a market.

But Lexus is an expensive car. Advil is more expensive than aspirin. Coke is more expensive than tap water.

As their consumer desires/expectations change, local culture changes radically.

No, I don't subscribe to the idea that everything the U.S. touches turns to shit. OTOH, in just three trips, I've seen prices in the Gulch rise, attitudes harden, all ticos becoming greedier and the "desire gap" growing larger.

The fundamental problem with capitalism is that, since there's limited resources, the rich get richer. Eventually society either capitulates to the poor and provides a more even distribution of wealth (Communism) or suppresses its poor by force (Fascism).

Americans are great at making money, but we're lousy at land wars in Asia, nation-building and keeping needs/desires/resources in healthy balance.

So, even if we agree that the U.S. does offer positives to the world, we've gotta also agree that everything the U.S. touches changes. In the case of C.R., many of the changes have been bad and at this point in time, not working to our (us mongers) favor.

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I think Pacifica55 had some pretty valid points. And I would suggest...its not THAT much different dating quality, more upper class Latinas. They love the soap opera life...the daily gossip and talking about the men they hate. Lets not confuse the P4P or "step up" Latinas with the "regular, educated" Latinas. It is my opinion there isnt that much difference between educated Latinas and Gringas accept that once you get under a Latina's skin...the passion tends to be much higher level than gringas. It truly is a chemistry thing. I just think there is a lot of comparing apples and oranges on these posts. You cant compare P4P latinas with traditional working gringas. Just doesnt compute. Its more of a lifestyle choice. And lets face it, most American men are caught up with having the trophy wife or GF that the rest of society/family will accept. That normally wont include uneducated, P4P Latinas.

I also think Pacifica55 comments show that "if you have game, you can get laid anywhere". In the US as anywhere in the world...if you have class, money and can show a good time without being a pu*sy pushover...you can have a variety of women. But...some of us have gotten lazy and just dont want to play the dating game anymore. Thats OK...but lets talk apples to apples.

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