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Author:  Pidd [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  How long is a "Relationship"
1 hour ?
Could get interesting with an unhappy chica....

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Law protecting women from men sails through assembly
By the A.M. Costa Rica staff


A law that is designed to protect women from domestic violence sailed through the Asamblea Legislativa Thursday, 45-3, in the second and final vote.

Minority lawmakers failed in their effort to gather enough signatures to refer the measure to the Sala IV constitutional court again for an opinion.

The law sets a 20- to 30-year prison sentence for anyone t orders. There also is possibility for more preventative detention time for men accused of domestic violence. who kill a women with whom he has maintained an intimate relationship, registered or not.

The law also provides jail terms of from six months to two years for a man who insults, devalues or ridicules in public or private a woman with whom he has had a relationship.
That is the same penalty that is set for a man who beats up or otherwise injured physically a woman with whom he has had a relationship.

The law, which still needs to be signed by President Óscar Arias Sánchez, also penalizes those who violate no-contac
Author:  Green Giant [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:10 am ]
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I guess we need to go to half hour sessions.
Author:  VegasBob [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:17 am ]
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Can "relationship" also be defined as "a business relationship" such as paying a chica for sexual services. If so A Gringo could be arrested for paying a chica "less than she thinks she should have gotten" thereby "insulting" her. This is really scary because the guy can be held in "preventative detention for up to a year while they decide on charges.
Author:  Green Giant [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:22 am ]
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To carry it to the beginning, maybe a relationship is established at first eye contact.
Author:  Zebra [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:06 am ]
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It's prabably a good idea with the way a lot of Ticos treat their wives, girlfriends, etc.....beating them around and so on, but really seems to go a long way, including insults, put downs, etc. That part of it sounds like something the gringas in the U.S. would have come up with.

Zebra
Author:  Mucho Gusto [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:41 am ]
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Vegas Bob wrote:
Can "relationship" also be defined as "a business relationship" such as paying a chica for sexual services. If so A Gringo could be arrested for paying a chica "less than she thinks she should have gotten" thereby "insulting" her. This is really scary because the guy can be held in "preventative detention for up to a year while they decide on charges.

At first glance, I didn't think too much of this article, but after a few comments here, it got me thinking. This really could be some scary sh*t! The most important question I have is - Have they defined the word "relationship" yet?

If you flirt with a woman for a while in a bar, could that be considered a "relationship"?

If you buy a woman a drink, as you're playing 'touchy-feely' with each other, discussing details of your upcoming session with her, could that be considered a "relationship"?

If you spend an afternoon with a woman, walking around town, shopping at San Pedro Mall, having lunch, visiting a museum, etc..., could that be considered a "relationship"?

If you spend an entire evening with a woman, dinner, drinks & dancing, followed by a TLN, could that be considered a "relationship"?

If you spend a weekend at the beach with a woman, banging the sh*t out of her, 3 or 4 times a day, could that be considered a "relationship"?

Granted, these are hypathetical scenario's, and maybe I'm giving the chica's too much credit in regards to pursuing this in a legal venue. And, IMHO, if you physically abuse a woman, you deserve whatever you get. But, from a mongering perspective, could this new law actually affect us??? :roll: Definitely some food for thought...

Mucho Gusto
Author:  Mucho Gusto [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:15 pm ]
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As a follow-up, I just read the article in today's Inside Costa Rica, and here's a couple of the quotes from the new law:

"A man can now be sentenced from six months to two years for simply insulting, telling her she is fat or other forms of psychological abuse..."

" The new law also punishes with from 12 to 18 years in prison for any man who penetrates, against her will, a woman with his penis, either vaginally, anally or orally."

The way I read this is:
If you simply verbally insult a chica, she could cause problems for you.

Or...

If a session goes bad, it looks like a chica could (if she really wanted to) claim that the sexo was not consentual. Then it's her word against yours. And it looks like the burden of proof would fall on the man.

This sucks! Does this mean that we've got to "walk on egg shells" around the chica's now?!?!?! :roll: It'll be interesting how this all plays out!
Author:  Hazel [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:28 pm ]
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Hell, now this just gives us an excuse to tape our sessions with the chicas, that way we can show that it was consentual.

LIGHTS, CAMERA, ACTION, :lol:

On a serious note this is messed up. Maybe we should make a CRT Consent Form (in Spanish) for the chicas to sign.


We need a lawyer to set up a legal form. :roll: No Im not talking about NFlorida. :lol:
Author:  Zombo [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:33 pm ]
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So if a man says "Honey, you've been gaining too much weight lately. I think you should start going to the gym," to his wife in CR, he could go to jail??? I've never heard of anything so absurd in my entire life. Not only does the term "relationship" need to be clearly defined by this radically pro-woman law, but so does the word "insult." One person's idea of humor, sarcasm, satire, and jest can easily be perceived as a deplorable, mean-spirited insult to another (See Don Imus!!). Other than witheld sex or a slap in the face delivered by the Tica wife or girlfriend, any form of criminal justice would certainly not fit the crime. Maybe if lawmakers in CR but as much effort into eliminating street crime in San Jose as they do demasculizing men, the country would be a better place.
Author:  Bilko [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:45 pm ]
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I think this is much ado about nothing. Does anybody here REALLY think they are going to be in danger if this law passes? Get real, guys. You're probably in more danger of being declared an 'enemy combatant' and locked up in Guantanamo for the rest of your days.
Author:  Hank [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:10 pm ]
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Before ya know it they probably pass sexual harrasment laws
Author:  Irish Drifter [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:20 pm ]
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Agree with Bilko on this matter. I do not believe it will have a chilling effect on monger tourism or is it anything to worry about unless you are involved in a long term live in relationship. That changes the dynamic completely and could lead to problems.

The "M" men had better be careful :lol:
Author:  Puravidatransport [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:03 am ]
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That law could be interesting...might behove CRT members to chip in $1 each so Admin can get a legal opinion from a CR lawyer and let us in on it. Of course, if it's like the US, they can pass any law but no one knows EXACTLY what it will mean till the courts get hold of a "borderline" case. Does that hold true in CR also??
Author:  Mike321 [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:29 am ]
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I seriously doubt that includes p4pwomen. They provide services, we pay for these services. Is it a relationship? NO. We have a verbal contract with them,however we should never beat or harm them. I also doubt that they want to involve the law in there activities.
Author:  VegasBob [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:14 am ]
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I have been thinking about this new law,and it really could be of grave concern. If the term "relationship" is interpreted loosely then having P4P sex once with a chica,would certainly fall into this catagory. You can be sure that the working chicas of CR will spread the word on this very quickly. I can almost guarartee you that we will be reading and hearing about Gringos who get locked up because of a "misunderstanding". Remember this is the Country that if a Mother "says" that Gringo had sex of any form with her daughter who is under age 18,the gringo goes to jail and stays there until the matter is resolved. (usually a large payoff to the Mother.) It's called an Annuncia.
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