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Author:  Jazz Musician [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:57 pm ]
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So I met a pretty 29 y.o. island girl last week. Her dad was white so she's a nice mix. She responded to an ad I had on Craigslist for an "Attractive Personal Assistant." She's the second winner I've met that way and I can't say enough about that strategy. Girls like this girl who have just moved here need some cash, but they're not working girls exactly. The pros avoid the ad because it requires cleaning, not to mention I advertise an hourly rate. I say $25 to $50/hr, but even if I pay the high end (2- hour minimum), $100 for 2 hours doesn't do much for hookers.

When this girl came over last week I paid her $30/hr and she stayed 3 hours. We talked and she did some cleaning and at the end she gave me a short massage with her jeans off, but panties and blouse on (no hanky panky). She knew I had girls in the past who vacuumed in their g-strings, imagined what else they might have done, but was still trying to appease me. She suspiciously asked what was required for the $50/hr rate, with a knowing look. She said straight up she didn't want to "sell" herself and I didn't pursue it. Actually, she's girlfriend material and I was kind of glad she said that.

She left but not before I suggested she come next week Friday, which was this past Friday. But after she left I kind of forgot about her. I let this Friday go without calling her, which is always a good thing to do with women. If you're desperate they smell that shit a mile away. But that wasn't why I didn't call. I just sensed from what she said that it was legit cleaning she'd do (for the most part), or maybe dating. My not calling was more about not wanting to go through the dating ritual at the moment.

I had told her a little about my preference for travel, because of women like her (I didn't really say that) who don't "put out." When I hint at that shit, it's only with a transplant (she moved to New York from Haiti when she was 2), and I put them on the "other side" of the gringas. That, even though we all know when a transplant's big toe touches American sand, they're immediately transformed to gringa. But I find it's a good topic. It cuts to the chase, and weeds out a lot of bullshit early.

Today I thought about her. I decided to send her a nice cross-section of my better photos, which I'll send to CR as soon as I finish this. I also included verbiage to the effect that I was on South Beach writing to her, and am always appalled at the attitudes of the hot chicks here. Wouldn't you know she called me 2 hours later? She said the girls were beautiful and she liked my photography. I asked her if she wanted to see Gilberto Gil (Brazilian guitarist/singer) at the Arts Center next Friday, and she said yes. I told her this was a date. She said OK. You just never know what's going to peek a woman's curiosity.

I'm not holding my breath because I don't have to. I'm plotting a six-week get-away this spring (which she knows about), so if it doesn't work out, I'm not going to come unwrapped. I wish I knew this shit when I was younger.

Listen up, guys (under 35)!!

Jazz
Author:  Californicationdude [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:05 pm ]
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Listen up, guys (under 35)!!


yeah, all 3 of you.....hahahahahaha
Author:  El Ciego [ Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:12 am ]
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Jazz,

You're in love with the game, aren't you?
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Man, you're waging psychological whorefare.

When I was a young teen who never got laid (hey, talk about rejection, my own hand fell asleep), we used to say, "Be mean to girls." It was the only way to pique the curiosity of the young girls around us, who were amazingly cynical, jaded and defensive at the time. We observed that the guys who were polite but never solicitous with the girls, who remained aloof, who acted like they were aware that hot females were present but didn't care, always got the hottest chicas.

What's that story Robert Duvall tells his young police partner in the movie "colors?" The story about the old and young bulls. "No son, we walk down the hill and Phuck 'em all."
Author:  Raw [ Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:17 pm ]
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That is clever, patience will pay a dividend on this one, keep us posted.
Author:  Jazz Musician [ Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:31 pm ]
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El C. - If you read askmen.com and check out Dr. Love's columns, you'll see a lot of what you just said; namely, girls like challenge. He recommends after getting a girl's number, waiting one week before calling her. Girls seem to have no problem waiting if in the end, they get the guy. Guys, on the other hand, especially young ones, often get the shakes when they smell blood. Girls want to feel "wanted," but not too wanted before the "love" game plays out. But, as Dr Love says, it's all moot if the initial encounter registers (on her meter) less than 50% interest in you. 70% interest and you have to work it just right to succeed. Her interest level at 90% in that first encounter makes it much easier, but it's still "blowable" if you offer no challenge and kiss her ass too much.

When I was young, I had zero idea how important the "physical" was to women. I thought women were all about the mind, money, romantic fantasy, and Babi*s. They are that, but if a woman isn't physically attracted early, it's over. I don't refer to a ripped body; that actually scores relatively low based on female testimonials. It could be as simple as a guy's eyes, face, or the way he talks to her.

Can a woman "override" her standards for a man's physical attributes if the money is right? Some perhaps can. I see beautiful women with unattractive guys all the time, but that doesn't answer the question, because we don't know if it's the "sugar daddy" thing, or something real. This much I'm sure of; many women will make you think they're into you if you have other redeeming qualities, money and success being two of them.

As far as enjoying the game. I do. It's not like I go into it looking for a notch on my belt, though. That's a lonely game. I simply enjoy finding ways to engage good-looking women whenever I can. They are a breed unto themselves. They've had it much different than the majority of women, who have to work at getting noticed. Sometimes you also find a "jewel in the rough," a girl who doesn't recognize her beauty until you lend a helping hand.

The theory that "traveling" helps things at home has merit. But if you're not in a "girlfriend" situation, it still doesn't help enough. In other words, I still wish I lived in Brazil; a place where you can have a real shot at hot non's, and also plenty of affordable action on the side.

Maybe one day...(soon).
Author:  Californicationdude [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:08 am ]
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dude, you're doing great.

please keep writing. I believe we all enjoy your reports and postings.
Author:  Zippy [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:43 pm ]
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I dido Californicationdude's post. It is funny how clumsy many of us were when we were young & less experienced, before we really understood more how to intrigue & play a woman. Maybe we were over anxious learning how to get a handle on our newly found raging hormones :) ? Most all women want a self confident guy which shows a level of success in itself. Women always seem to want a guy that is wanted by others & basicly in demand. They like to feel they have the goods to get that it seems. Many I work with seem to like the bad boy types for all the drama that many seem to become so addicted to. They seem to get off on telling their friends about all their troubles & the emotions that go with all of this. I am happy to be a little older & beyond this petty stuff now.

Men just always do themselves a disservice I feel to fall all over a woman. It always worked better for me to hide these feelings. In some ways it is fun to act somewhat disinterested with really hot ones since they find this different from other guys that are always paying them so many compliments. It always helped men I knew to be seen out in public with other hot women.

Jazz it seems to me you like the challenge of getting them to truly like you & accept you as much as the rest. It is an interesting game but once you get them where you want & they want more than you this part I never liked :? . This is the one thing I always liked about the quick one night stand types or the ones we meet like at HDR since most of the time I am just only looking for the quick thrill of something new & different. It is all good.

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it's only with a transplant (she moved to New York from Haiti when she was 2), and I put them on the "other side" of the gringas. That, even though we all know when a transplant's big toe touches American sand, they're immediately transformed to gringa.
Amazing how it all works :lol:. When we are there we are in the land of plenty & in top demand but when they come here they are in the land of plenty & it takes a Nano second for most to understand this. This is why it will always be easier to keep them close to you if you keep them in their country of origin as opposed to bringing them back here. YMMV
Author:  Raw [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:39 am ]
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I used to frequent a popular midtown watering whole after work. One of the smokin hot waitress's was always a snobish bitch to me. I over heard her telling her hot friends that she was going to have her teeth whitened for 800 bucks, I told her in front of her freinds that it wasnt necessary, just pull them all and I would marry her. I phucked her that night. You never know what a girl will respond to. I pulled that comment out of my ass from pure disgust and it got me layed. It does seem that being too nice will never get you anywhere with american women.
Author:  LittleKing [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:48 am ]
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Flying back to the states 7:20 AM tomorrow. I'm going to need to decide whether it is worth it playing this game at all up north with the frigitas. Peru may be as close to a single's man paradise as one can find, but even here among the non's I found that the real hot, fairly tall and very curvy ones that I could see myself really fall for, and potentially feel content with in a serious relationship, didn't go for me - while several less attractive women here have fallen for me and many others showed a lot of interest.

There are many factors and I can try to change or improve my approach, but a big issue for a man is height and build, especially with taller women. It's not so much about being muscular but at 5 foot 6, 125 lbs and a quiet personality I don't have a physical presence that generally attracts hot women to me. The much taller average height of women in the USA contributes to my disadvantages there.

Definitely as you say Jazz showing too much interest in a hot woman is a killer. The rules are different if the girl is average or lonely - in these cases it doesn't matter what you do if she likes or "loves" you. But of course these are exactly the ones I don't want to be with especially. I am very shallow! Knowing how I am I don't begrudge or feel bitter towards hot women who are just not turned on by me since I am the same way myself.

About 200 times down here I have been told I am so cute and nice, why haven't I ever married? Actually the first question usually is why don't I have hijos. I still don't have a good answer for these questions - certainly a very truthful answer is not a good one. I know I still do need to learn to be less nice!

BTW anyone seen the movie "The Tao of Steve"? Some of the answers lie there. A must see!
Author:  Santas Bro [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:18 pm ]
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What I see in others, is what I see in myself, both the good and the bad. Neither good, nor bad, may be absolutely true, but just my thought about it at that moment. This post is about me, and my thoughts about my inadequacies.

LittleKing Wrote:
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I don't have a physical presence that generally attracts hot women to me.


Welcome to the club! I'm a fat old man, but a legend in my own mind, most of the time. Personal body size statistics aren't really that important to a woman. How many times do I see a man, with a really hot woman and wonder why? Money is first, but attitude is a close second.

I am only one thought away from becoming HugeKing, in my own psyche. Once that I have reached that point within myself, my stature will have grown to a point that it matters not how others perceive me. People, at that moment, will not view anything physical about me, but they will see a strong, powerful, man in front of them. When I am thinking a thought that does not serve my highest goal for myself, I need to change that thought immediately. I have the capabilities of being whatever I choose in my own mind, and it is only one thought away.

IMJ, in the statement above I read that you may feel less than because of your stature. The old saying, "It is not the size of the dog in the fight, but the amount of fight in the dog," is very true. Most times when I feel "less than" it stems from my youth and feeling inadequate, and not being big enough to handle it at that time. Hence, my first shadow. When a negative instance today that is similar comes up, my shadows call me back to the safe, but not necessarily good, place that my shadows have waiting for me.

Practice L.O.V.E. (Listen, Observe, Verify, Empathize) listening with women. As a man I am not supposed to listen to others. If I am listening, I cannot be telling you how much better I am than you. Actually Listen to what they have to say, Observe their body language as they speak, Verify, make statements such as "I'm hearing you say".... (and then they will believe you to be listening and give them more ammo to talke about themselves), and Empathize with them (women love this part because it gets to their feelings). I am amazed at what I have heard from women when I actually use this technique. This does not mean that I have to buy into their womanly sh*t, but it will get me much faster to my goal, sexo.

Thank you for the honesty in your post. It has made me look at myself today. I am in a much better place for that.

Again, just the ramblings of a fat, old man. Flame me, blame me, but don't call me late for dinner. :lol: Now back to reading about poosey.

Health & happiness

Santas Bro
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