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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:03 pm 
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Pardon me while I vent here for a minute...

It simply blows me away how many scamming assholes are out there these days in cyberland.

To wit - as posted elsewhere, I recently put up a profile on the Latin Match.com. While I've received a few legitimate looking winks and email responses, a good share of the e-mails have been these long "I'm instantly in love with you" diatribes from "ladies" with Russian names requesting to privately e-mail them (of course - thus giving up your anonymity). Then when you log onto Match.com, their profile has suddenly magicly disappeared somehow.

Most recently, I got a wink from a very cute 36-old black girl whose profile indicated she lived in South Africa. Profile looked legit, so last night I sent an email through Match.com, being careful not to give up too much in the way of personal info. Well, guess what - this morning I got one of "those" kinds of e-mails again, this time from a different girl in South Africa. Amazing coincidence huh?

I also recently put up a listing on Craig's List for a roommate for a vacant room in my pad. Big mistake. So far, just about every response has been from imaginary females in Great Britain, Australia, etc., all with a similar "Hi roommate. I'm moving soon to the United States and would like more info on the room, including total costs to move in, etc." line. The scam here is they eventually send you a fake money order for more than the required amount, then ask you to refund them the difference.

Anyways, with all this shit going on, it's amazing sometimes how relatively immune CRT has been from this sort of crap. And I think we have our ever-vigilant Admin1 Tomas to primarily thank for that. There's other issues here of course - especially some members' lack of respect for the confidentiality of info or photos posted - but on the whole, this has been a relatively safe haven for the sharing of info and ideas.

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GetRhythm wrote:
...a good share of the e-mails have been these long "I'm instantly in love with you" diatribes from "ladies" with Russian names requesting to privately e-mail them


What? You don't believe in love at first sight (or email)? :lol:

It's funny that you said Russian because a few months ago I kept receiving almost daily an email from somebody claiming to be a Russian woman in her mid-20's. I was receiving it at my work address which I never give out, except for business purposes.

It was addressed to "Steve" which those of you who know me know that's not my first name. "She" would include a g-rated pic of herself with each email. Here's the kicker, it was a different broad every time, similar but definitely a different woman. They must think men are stupid. Anyways, she kept asking if she can come visit me if I bought her a ticket and put her up in my place.

I never responded and they kept coming every couple of days, sometimes daily, for like a month. Finally, I got tired and forwarded the email to a guy named Steve who works here, and gave her his email address. :evil: So I guess she's now bothering him, and not me any longer.

Sometimes work can be boring so I pass time by phucking with these con artists a little. I got this one email from a British "lawyer" who wanted to give me a trust from the UK but I had to put up some money to release it. They couldn't do it themselves because of "tax and legality purposes" so they needed a foreigner to do it. I kept this guy occupied for like 3 weeks, stringing him along, and asking just enough to keep him interested in writing me, but I had to be careful not to overdo it and give it away that I know it's a scam. After like 2-3 weeks, I told the guy to go phuck himself and he did. I was hoping that in the time he wasted writing me, he wouldn't be able to rip off some senior citizen for his life savings.


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You are just realzing the scam ? :shock: :shock: :shock: Sorry, this has been going on for years. AdultFriendFinder I think is the worst with the hightest ratio of "fake" ads than anywhere else with active persons behind them to entice you to pay the fee to respond back to the fake ad!! :P :twisted::P :twisted: Sucks but a very common practice.

And yes, those other ads do just disappear, they are reported as "spam" and then removed before most can respond to them...this is a very old con and will continue to be for our future :P :twisted: :shock:


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For me it was a Match.com (U.S.) scam.

A picture of a very pretty lady, said she was 27 years old and owned a U. S. company, but was in Africa at the plant that manufactured her shoes. She would be back in the U. S. in about 6 months and wanted to meet with me (yeah right!), and thought we could be a possible match for marriage. "She liked my picture, profile, yada yada." Within a couple of days another young lady, different picture, different story, but...... within two weeks both pictures were gone from Match.com. I did not respond to either of them.

Why in the h*ll would I believe that a pretty woman less than half my age would be interested in me!! I know I am a legend in my own mind, but momma didn't raise no fool. I would sooner believe that a RFM from CR was more real (and that isn't going to happen either), and the Tica (also 27) I spent most of my time with in CR really wanted me. :lol:

If I can't see it, or touch it, it ain't real. Be careful, it is a big world, with lots of boogey men/women in the www.com. One awe sh*t, can erase a lifetime of work.

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As Witling will attest, I think for the most part that the stuff on Latin Match.com is legit - you just have to watch out for those long "head over heels in love" responses that ask you to e-mail them privately. Interesting how all these have been in English so far on a Spanish-speaking site.

In any case, it's kind of fun to see what pops up each day. Not so sure about actively pursuing anything as mongering is just too much fun, and I don't want to inhibit myself. Especially with Medellin and the beautiful paisas looming on the horizon...

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Try www.latinamericancupid.com for a month and I believe you will have better luck, less scammers.

I've met many chicas from varies latin countries who I communicate on a regular basis, more like pen pals. All the chicas have college educations and hold legit jobs. They also have interesting and educational things to share with me.

I'm meeting up with a couple of chicas in MDE that I met on the site. My understanding from many paisitas I have spoken with is that there is a shortage of men in MDE. MOre importantly, most if not all of the paisas I've spoken to have told me that there are many single beautiful paisitas in MDE looking for love.

Don't forget to check out www.myspace.com if you are interested in meeting chicas without having to join and pay a membership fee.
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Reminded me of this old thread: https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... hp?t=10154
It was funny to watch a guy fall for one of these scammers, her pics were hot as hell- model material. I remember him wasting an hour or 2 each day IM'ing "her" from the internet cafes in the gulch while we were in SJO. What a dork. :lol:
I noticed the link in my old post didn't work, here's another with thousands of pics http://www.romancescam.com/ maybe you'll see your girl from Africa on there GR. :wink:

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People are such fools to be scammed by such obvious con artists. In any event, right now I can't afford to be involved in such romantic schemes, as I am wisely investing my life savings in a transaction I heard about (via email) through the nicest Nigerian business man, whose father, the former finance minister, was deposed and left over $60 million dollars in a bank. Ha ha, you losers. As soon as I send $60,000 (to show good faith) to Mr. Titanbuamba, the money will be released and I will be rich!! We'll see who needs a dating site then. The chicas will be all over me. I rule!
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If your going to go the Civilian route.. then remember these Red Flags.. Great article by the way, If I didn't know any better this guy has lived half my life.

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Not long ago, I met a very attractive single mother of two at a dinner party in Sag Harbor, New York. We were seated next to each other-a "soft" setup-and by dessert, we were punctuating our stories with little touches: her hand on my forearm, mine on hers. Good signs.

Then the first of her two Ch*ldren, a boy of about ten, descended from an upstairs TV room. In each hand he clutched an action figure. This in itself was not disconcerting. It was the way he slammed the action figures into each other, his upper lip curled in a sneer, that gave me pause-that, and the adoring look his mother chose to bestow on him as he did.

Still, D-, the boy's mother, was definitely worth a follow-up. A few days later, I drove over to the waterfront inn where she had encamped with her Ch*ldren for a brief summer vacation. The plan was a swim in the inn's pool, then lunch at a nearby restaurant: a little ersatz family outing. D- ushered me into her room and announced the obvious fact of my arrival to her Ch*ldren.

Neither the boy nor his sister, two years older, looked over from the droning television. Not a word emanated from either one's lips. D- told them to turn off the television and change into their swimsuits. They ignored her. So D- pretended she hadn't asked them, and went into the bedroom to change. Only when the grownups started to leave did the Ch*ldren drag themselves, sluglike, behind us.

Lunch was worse
The swim was bad enough, with both Ch*ldren glowering at the grownups from their pool chairs. But lunch was worse. No sooner had the waiter taken our order than the girl seized one of the action figures from her brother's fist and threw it across the restaurant. The boy screamed in outrage, hit his sister with the other action figure, then ran over to get the first one so he could hit her with that, too. As the sister returned fire with her fists, I turned to see what D- would do. "Now, come on, Ch*ldren," she said gently, lovingly, pleadingly. "Now, come on ...."I did ask her out on one more date, hoping her demon Ch*ldren would be more agreeable.

Ten years (and one marriage) ago, I would have excused all this somehow, put it aside, and pressed on with a next date, because the mother, after all, was hot. No more. Well, all right, to be perfectly honest, I did ask her out on one more date, hoping her demon Ch*ldren would be more agreeable in their city home. They weren't. So that was that. After decades of ignoring red flags, only to sail into disaster each time, I've finally realized that no matter how gorgeous and alluring the new stranger is, you have to quit when a red flag goes up. As soon as it goes up.

An orange-striped top
This isn't as easy it sounds. For starters, you have to learn how to distinguish red flags from mere quirks and annoyances. If a woman on her first date with you wears an orange-striped top and you hate orange or stripes, this is not a reason to bail.

If her cell phone rings during dinner and she takes the call at the table, this is annoying-to me, very annoying-and will need to be addressed at some opportune point (not the first date). But it's not a dealbreaker. If, however, you take a woman to a restaurant that serves fancy pizza, as I did once, and she eats the pizza by scraping the cheese and tomato off the crust, leaves the crust on her plate, then lights a cigarette, smokes it, and grinds the butt out on the crust, this is a red flag.

This really happened, by the way, and if you work for a fashion magazine, you know who this was, so I'd better not say more.

A thoughtful reader may have already concluded that the greater challenge of red flags is their subjectivity. Another man, that is, might have yearned to provide the fathering that D-'s Ch*ldren so clearly needed. Or have been charmed-even turned on!-by the grinding of that cigarette butt onto the pizza crust.

So what can one do but act on one's instincts and hope for the best?

Three decades of romantic misadventures
Not true, not true, not true. Happily, I can report after three decades of romantic misadventures that there are, in fact, 12 red flags that everyone should watch for: clear, specific warnings that mean Danger Ahead, Turn Back-no matter who you are or what you find charming. Read them here, then clip this page and carry it in your wallet or pocketbook for the rest of your single life, to be unfolded and re-read by the light of a public bathroom stall on every date that gives you doubts.

As clear as all this ought to be, I have to admit that sometimes-very occasionally-a red flag turns out not to be what you thought it was at all. It's still a red flag, that is, but somehow it's become ... part of the appeal. In the heat of last year's election season, I would have said, as a fervent Democrat, that a woman's being a Republican was the biggest red flag of all. I haven't changed my political views, but I did recently meet a very smart, very attractive journalist who came with a warning: She's an ardent neocon. The flag is still waving, but we're having a lot of fun, so I'm just ignoring it.

Will this end up as another object lesson in my own theory? Or does love mean never having to pay attention to a red flag? I'll have to get back to you on that one.

The Dirty Dozen
Watch out for the Fling-o-matic, the Parent Trap, the Anger Hum, and these other stop signs.

Chronic Lateness. For clarity, "chronic" here means "three dates in a row." If your date arrives more than ten minutes late each time, don't wait for his (or her) fourth arrival. Be gone. No doubt your date will have wonderful excuses, and one or two may even be sound. But three in a row is a pattern, and what the pattern says is: I don't want to get into this. So neither do you.

Ketchup On Eggs. If one of those first dates is brunch, and your new friend reaches for the ketchup to put on her eggs, RED FLAG! I realize this may seem arbitrary or fussy. Or perhaps you think I'm making a class judgment here. Well, maybe I am! What's wrong with that? All I know is: Nothing good ever comes of ketchup on eggs. And it's really gross.

Rudeness To Waiters. And taxi drivers, and any-one else in a service job. I shouldn't even have to explain why this is a dealbreaker. Just remember that it is.

Scary Divorce Stories. It's amazing how much a new prospect will tell you about her life on a first or second date-much more than she knows she's saying. The question is: Do you hear it? If she launches into the story of her messy divorce, is her ex the villain in every respect? To me, that's a red flag right there. Anyone who's emotionally grounded should be able to see that two people, not one, contributed to a divorce.

A Deep Attachment To Disturbing Pets. A golden retriever is fine, and cats are all right if they don't do much. But I'm still haunted by the memory of an ancient, hairless dachshund that would manage to jump up on the bed during inopportune moments and bay. Not until the dog-owner chose to disengage herself from me and comfort the dog instead did I know that this was trouble.

Fling-O-Matics. During a first, incredibly romantic lunch with a new prospect some time ago, I mentioned that my most recent relationship had ended after a year. "A year," my new friend marveled. "That's so impressive! All of my relationships end after three months." Of course I resolved to be the exception. Over the next weeks, which happened to include Christmas and New Year's, we had an amazing time, both in New York City, where she had a charming Hell's Kitchen walk-up, and at my house in the Hamptons. One Sunday, after I'd put her on the train home, I came back to find the most tenderly romantic note on my pillow, something about soul mates joined. The next week, for no outward cause, she called to break up with me. No argument, no terrible time, just end of story. Only later did I realize it was week 12. Lesson: When a woman over 35 tells you all her relationships have ended after a few months, RED FLAG.

Demon Ch*ldren. Ch*ldren with an issue or two? Maybe. Ch*ldren who hate you? Watch out. Hopelessly spoiled or angry Ch*ldren, like D-'s? Head for the door.

Money Matters. Money stirs up so many issues, conscious and unconscious, far more than any magazine article can cover. For now, let's just list two red flags you can spot early on. One: If a man suggests splitting the tab on a first date, the woman should pay-then bolt. I don't say this is fair, especially if, for instance, the woman is a CEO and the man is a freelance writer. But it's the way it is, and any man who tries to worm out of his society-given role as tab-picker-upper on the first (or second or third) date for the sake of saving a few bucks is a creep to be ditched. For men, an early red flag about money may not start waving until the third or fourth date. A lot of women begin life as daddy's girls; a few stay that way. They feel men should provide them with the lifestyle to which they've grown accustomed from other men who did just that. If you're a sugar daddy yourself, have fun. If not, back off. Over time you'll only be despised-and dropped.

The Parent Trap. Powerful emotions about one's parents-positive or negative-are a huge red flag. For men, mother- worship is relationship death. One 50-year-old man I know has dated every single woman in New York and found, to his bafflement, that none is good enough-for his mother, that is. (She's still calling the shots at age 85.) One of this guy's many castoffs is a very attractive, successful woman of 42, whom I later dated myself. Now that I know both, I can only wonder who was the first to reject the other. It must have been like two gunfighters at the OK Corral. N- rejected me after three really nice dates because she decided my eight-year-old daughter, whom she hadn't yet met, would be an "encumbrance" to our relationship. (Since she hadn't met her, she couldn't claim my daughter was a demon Ch*ld.) Only after we became friends did I learn how much she resents both her parents. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Bad sex. I don't need to go into detail here, do I? Except to say that bad sex may get better after a first, fumbling time, but bad sex two or three times in a row is sex that only gets worse. Don't fool yourself into thinking that sex is just one part of a relationship, that laughter and shared values are as important, etc., etc. They're not. Red flag. BIG red flag.

Dirty Underwear And Socks. Your mother was right. They have to be clean. Dirty underwear is the hallmark of a secret slob, and every secret slob has many worse habits you don't even want to think about-but will all too soon get to know if you don't leave now.

The Anger Hum. As he or she talks, not just about past romantic relationships but about work, friends, and family, listen for a low hum of anger, like a third rail running along the tracks of your new prospect's life. For reasons I never quite figured out, I used to be attracted to women who had that vibe. Maybe it seemed sexy; maybe it reminded me of my mother. But I now know how to recognize anger-not shows of temper, which may be healthy in moderation, but the deeper, more destructive hum-and to back off when I hear it.

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Thanks Capo....however I wish I had read this BEFORE my second ex-wife.


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I once responded to an ad on some website (don't remember which one) to a woman who supposedly lived in the Chicago area. Maybe about an hour and a half from where I live. We chat for a while and I then find out that "she" is living in Africa. Guess where...Nigeria. I posted the entire dialogue on CRT. I think the thread was called "How I spent my Saturday morning". Paco, that is your homework for today. Can you find that thread? :-) It makes a guy think twice about getting involved with these dating sites. Every scammer is out to play on a guy "lookin' for love."

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This is my first post on CRT. I've been to CR 7 times but just found out about this site and joined recently. When I read this scamming thread I had to jump in.

I don't consider myself a stupid guy but even smart people do stupid things sometimes and often it is in the name of "love" or lust. I have been scammed twice by Russian and Romanian women or actually men, who knows. I wired money to two different supposely women because of their "needs" so we could continue getting to know each other. Even the wire service called me and suggested I was being scammed but I was smarter than them and just knew my new love was being honest with me. Boy did I learn the hard way but I did learn.

When your new love wants money its probably a scam. I'm smarter now and not as naive as I once was. No more wives for me only short time girl friends. Take care, NavyJim


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NavyJim58 wrote:
Even the wire service called me and suggested I was being scammed but I was smarter than them and just knew my new love was being honest with me.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry Jim,
But that may be the funniest thing I have ever read. :P


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that's ok, I can take it and I deserve to be laughed at. :oops: But that was a couple of years ago and i'm alot wiser today although a little lighter in the pockets. I talked to a western union supervisor and she told me it has happened to hundreds of guys.


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Dapanz1 wrote:
I once responded to an ad on some website (don't remember which one) to a woman who supposedly lived in the Chicago area. Maybe about an hour and a half from where I live. We chat for a while and I then find out that "she" is living in Africa. Guess where...Nigeria. I posted the entire dialogue on CRT. I think the thread was called "How I spent my Saturday morning". Paco, that is your homework for today. Can you find that thread? :-) It makes a guy think twice about getting involved with these dating sites. Every scammer is out to play on a guy "lookin' for love."

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Paco is playing "hooky" from school today :shock: so he did not get the homework assignment :wink:

Here is the thread :D

https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... ay+morning

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