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Hypothetical Social Security Question
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Author:  GoodToGo [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Hypothetical Social Security Question
Let's say you get some potentially bad news about your health.

Let's say you know a Tica you really like and respect.

Let's say you marry her with a rock solid prenup.

Can she collect your Social Security should the potentially bad news evolve into your untimely demise?

Luck
Author:  Palynx [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:28 pm ]
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You should ask a lawyer! :P
Author:  Lee [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Luck4unme
Luck4unme:



Once your spouse reaches full retirement age she will receive what you would have received at full retirement age. Depending on what you're Social Security credits are if you and the lady have a Ch*ld upon your death the Ch*ld and her will receive benefits to the Ch*ld reaches 18.


I'm no expert I just took that information off my Social Security benefits statement.

Lee
Author:  El Tranquilo [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:11 pm ]
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This is from my last S.S. account statement:

Quote:
When you die, certain members of your family may be eligible for benefits:
--your spouse age 60 or older (50 or older if disabled, or any age if caring for your Ch*ldren younger than age 16); and
--your Ch*ldren if unmarried and younger than age 18, still in school and younger than 19 years old, or adult Ch*ldren disabled before age 22.


Hope this helps. Wishing you good health.
Author:  Lee [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Luck4unme
Luck4unme:

Personal opinion do not do it. If you would like to leave the lady something upon your death make her the beneficiary of a small life insurance policy. Put her in your will leave her some of your assets.

Lee
Author:  TimBones [ Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:25 am ]
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Who cares? I am dead :shock:
Author:  NFlorida [ Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:58 am ]
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Why do you want to marry her?
If it's to give her a better life a lawyer would be best.

- B
Author:  Traylor Park [ Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:46 am ]
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Why would you want to get married to anyone if you recieved some potentially bad news about your health?

You are on a mongering site which is obvious you enjoy the sport. So, why not just enjoy the rest of your healthy life enjoying it?

You may also need to ask more pertinent questions and give a bit more info on the Tica and your relationship with her and how you both met.

You may be setting yourself up in such a fragile state of mind, not seeing things clearly for what they truly are.
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"i'm in love with a whore and i don't even know it." - Traylor Park
Author:  Gypsy [ Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hypothetical Social Security Question
Luck4unme wrote:
Let's say you get some potentially bad news about your health.

Let's say you know a Tica you really like and respect.

Let's say you marry her with a rock solid prenup.

Can she collect your Social Security should the potentially bad news evolve into your untimely demise?

Luck
If your divorced spouse dies, you can receive benefits as a widow/widower if the marriage lasted 10 years or longer and you are age 60 or older (or age 50 if you are disabled.) Benefits paid to a surviving divorced spouse who is 60 or older (age 50 if disabled) will not affect the benefit rates for other survivors receiving benefits.

From: http://www.ssa.gov/ww&os2.htm
Author:  Littleshit [ Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Ifou care for her...
If you care for her....then why not do it?

It sounds like a nice thing to do...and at no personal expense. I have thought of adopting my girlfriend's young one with much the same reasoning in mind. The Ch*ld would get S.S. benifits now and upon my death.

Seems to be some bitter souls around...the bah humbug type!
Author:  Prolijo [ Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:21 pm ]
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Actually, I think this is a good question. I usually hate the so-called "hypothetical" questions because they are usually just thinly veiled this is really happening questions. So why not give us a little more info. How about some of these for starters:
    I realize you "really like and respect" this tica, but do you trust her?
    Is she a working girl or a non-pro?
    How imminent is your possible untimely demise?
    Do you have anyone else to leave your assets or your benefits to?
    Do you have any Ch*ldren who would otherwise be eligible for your benefits and how would this effect them?
    Do you even have other assets to leave other than your SS benefits?
    And how about the much more desirable problem (relatively speaking) of what might happen if you end up not dying for quite some time?
I don't know your possible motivations, but I can guess what they might be. To answer some of the other posters' questions:

Tim, who cares if your dead? EXACTLY! Of course, you don't care. But whomever your beneficiaries or heirs might be certainly would. If you had a choice on the one hand of dying intestate (dying without a legal will) and having all of your estate just go to Uncle Sam or dying without any beneficiaries for all those SS taxes you've been paying your whole life and having it just go back into the pot or, OTOH, enabling some or all of it to go to someone you care about and who probably really needs it, wouldn't you prefer the latter?

NF, why would he want to marry her? If he doesn't have any Ch*ldren and he doesn't have a spouse than presumably no one at all can collect on any of his social security benefits. If he just lived with her she wouldn't be eligible for spousal survivor benefits. This could be a "no-cost" way of seeing that your favorita gets something after you're gone. I'm no expert on SS, so I don't really know the rules beyond the quotes that have been reposted here, but another question I would want to ask a lawyer or the SS is if you have both Ch*ldren and a spouse as heirs does one effect the other in terms of the benefits that they might be entitled to?

TP, to answer your questions of why get married and why not just enjoy (spend?) the rest of your healthy life enjoying it, I would ask why can't one do both? What this is sounding like to me is essentially just a shell marriage set-up for the sole purpose of entitling the tica to a little something after he's gone. There is nothing about that that necessarily precludes Lucky or the hypothetical mongerer whomever that might be from continuing to monger.

Frankly, I'd be much more concerned with the legal questions surrounding that supposedly rock solid prenup since I think it takes a lot more than just putting it in caps and large font to make it completely "rock solid" (if such a thing is possible) than questions about SS (though the latter is the main precondition for even considering the former). What I have seen is that "rock solid" only covers the stuff that you can imagine but it is the stuff you can't imagine that always seems to get you.
Author:  Kojo96 [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:09 am ]
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If you check a little closer you will also find that in the event of death you have had to have been married for at least 9 months before your passing. Also if there is no will your wife automatically inherits everything. Even with a will in most states she will inherit at least half of your assets and all of your life insurance. If you have biological Ch*ldren be careful and definately see a lawyer who is knowledgeable in estate law.
Author:  Hank [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:39 am ]
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If you die without a will in Texas, it's half to the wife and half to the legal Ch*ldren.
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