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Over the last year I've had the opportunity to date several young women in Costa Rica. They all had regular jobs. How do I know? Eveyone I either picked up from work, took to work a number of times, or met at their workplace. My concern is that as I get involved with these chicas, I discover how many needs and daily difficulties many of them have. Yes, I have a soft bleeding-liberal heart that makes me overly sensitive. Since I'm not sure I want to settle down yet, I feel bad not making a deeper commitment when I could be such a help to their daily lives. And yes, occasionally the LOVE BUG has bitten me and ruined any former sense of reasoning. It's one thing to let the little brain do the thinking, it's even a bigger problem when both brains are out of commission due to a bad infectious bite from the love bug.

Which leads me to the honorable sport we CRT fellows enjoy so much. It is a (usually) fair trade . . . money for sex. And more often than not, at least the chicas I have been privileged to meet, throw in a little actually intimacy and GFE into the equation. But we're still not fooling them and they're not fooling us. This is much more honorable than playing around with someone's emotions or your own emotions and, in the process, losing control of your emotions, which is what often has happened to me in my outside-the-gulch girlfriend experiences. I still like to date and imagine that one day I will get bit by just the right love bug and will wake up to discover I am living happily ever after.

However, in the meantime, I am recognizing that there is indeed an honorable thing or two about our sport of choice.

Well this is an interesting take on P4P but you do make a point. Sonrisa do you live in CR?
To borrow a line from Chi_trekker in another thread -
Sonrisa do you see this with your non-program chicas as well, and do you think some (or most) of their "needs and difficulties" could be a direct result of being uneducated, immature and lazy? If not could those needs and difficulties be a means to manipulate you? -To make you feel sorry for them, to get and/or keep your attention?
I've dated gringas that do this, if there wasn't a crisis they would create one, oh the drama.

Guilt is no reason to stay in a relationship. You sound like a "nice guy" and nice guys get used the most.

This is a good argument, after all it's much easier and probably cheaper in the long run to "pay them to leave" while we avoid the heartaches, drama, time, commitment and emotional entanglments involved with relationships. Are we taking the easy way out? Someone posted a while back that "we exploit them and they exploit us" but can't that be applied to dating or marriage as well? If we learn to play the P4P game it can indeed be as fair and simple as it gets. (Now if they would only legalize prostitution in the states life would be perfect for us.)

Well, it seems none of us are fooling them but they fool plenty of us. (not "us" as in CRT guys but lots of those uneducated gringos getting fooled)
damn romantics...

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The most expensive sex here in CR is the FREE SEX. Sonrissa makes some very valid points here that a lot of guys need to understand. P4P sex is a fair exchange with a pre- determined cost. When you "capture" the beautiful novia who isn't a puta,you become the "gift that keeps on giving". As I have said many times before,it's not even the money that guys get taken for by these chicas that concerns me,it's the emotional toll that it takes out of them. I guess this applies to puta and non-puta alike.

It's too damn early in my day to get philosophical about relationships, but here I go...


The transaction (blank) for sex/love is far more complicated than we'd like to think.

While it seems very straightforward in the Gulch "Money for sex..." it is indeed not. Many of these women are actually looking for more from their clients, and I'm not talking about dinners, drinks, RFM cash later or anything so physically tangible.

I think that some of our playmates are looking for validation, caresses, orgasms, respect and caring. Not all of them, to be sure, but there are enough women in the business who are looking for something more than cash value.

This makes Sonrisa's argument a bit specious in some cases. I watched a Nicaraguan pro burst into very real tears when a CRT bro' told her that after three nights he was no longer interested. I watched an SL regular dip quickly into depression right before the CRT anniversary party, because her CRT date had changed his mind about companions. So, while we might want to distill the pfp equation down to sex for money, it's often more than that for both parties.

I also resent the characterization of non-pro ticas as being uneducated, immature and lazy. I believe this to be a gross stereotypification, and I personally know ticas who are none of these things. We tend to only encounter ticas, nicas, Colombianas etc. who started out in the lowest socioeconomic status of their culture.

The more I learn about this trade in flesh for fantasy, the more I see the complexity of it. It doesn't comfort me.

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The part that was never addressed is if one enters into a realationship whereas the other has the freedom to play. In our days it was called wife swapping.... then merged into swinging... now its called "lifestyle"

I have a very special tica who enjoys this very much. She brings me home the most wonderful presents to enjoy as she watches and like a good man I do the same for her

Now if you want to settle down with a special one.... find one who is willing to help you play and not become bored with the same ole same ole every day in and day out. After all, even the best of meal can be boring if eaten day after day with out some change.

I had a good laugh with the Gringo trading Card comment in another post.
Probably not too far from the truth.

I guess I had a short time Novia last trip ( 2 weeks )

and although I was still paying out cash daily I was soon subject to several conditions, and post trip the send money game.

You no stay at the SL,

How come you no phone ?

Buy me this , buy me that, more shoes.
and no it won't be on sale.

her fight with another tica in front of the news cafe one night over my
availability, ( ha ! That would never happen with a gringa )

on the third week I hooked up with a great Columbian.
no complaints, Pay for a set number of hours and that's it.


I think I bought her two cups of tea at the Prez and some french fries at the SL once. There was still some fantasy and overall I enjoyed my experience with her more.

Fiedler

I do not live in Costa Rica, but have the opportunity and time to take three or four trips a year. To tell the truth, except for one, none of the girls I've dated were uneducated, immature or lazy. In fact, I've been inspired by how some of them have accomplished as much as they have. Most of them were married before and their ex-husbands were the ones who were uneducated, immature, lazy and intent to stay that way. Most of the chica needs are simply based on the low-pay scale combined with their family responsibilities. Even many of the professionals such as a dentist struggles to make ends meet. Perhaps they are manipulating my emotions (I admit I'm a soft-sell anyway), but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize their needs are genuine. Now it may not be my responsibility to solve those needs, but I sure can see those needs and I've never felt any of them were creating a crises. Still, the deeper my relationship grows, the more I naturally feel a desire to help and often do, though seldom on an ongoing basis. I particularly enjoy taking the whole family out to dinner (places like Pizza Hut or McDonalds are considered the best thing ever!), a movie or both. Yea, I probably am a nice guy, but I'm also observant and can tell when a relationship might be heading in the wrong direction. Bringing a little sunshine and a few sonrisas into a family's life usually makes everyone happy, although there is the danger of disappointment later on. Ah, the joys of guilt. And there is no doubt that the free sex is the most expensive sex! Which, for me, is okay and I am aware of that going into it. However, I also have a very nice watch, a wonderful jacket, a beautiful tie, some ceramic and wood gifts, and a few other things that my novias have purchased for me. Talk about eating humble pie when they are kind enough to purchase you a thoughtful gift!!!

As far as the pros go, I love the Costa Rican women (along with a few of the other Central American and Caribbean types) because they actually can and often do, as El Ciego points, make a meaningful connection with one of their clients. I've sensed this several times and even had one chica stay with me two extra days for free simply because we had a nice thing going on. Maybe Fantasy Land for both of us, but Fantasy Land can be a nice place for both of you to lay your weary heads once in a while. With the pros, I tend to shy away from the obviously hardened or cash-driven pros and seek out more of the softer ones who possess some personality. And more than not, I'm absolutely amazed how special those chicas really are.

BINGO!

Recently I found myself thinking, 'boy, this chica is kinda immature.' Then I recalled that she was only 1/3 my age (19 vs. 57). A moment of enlightenment hit me!

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Bilko hits it on the head,

We expect mature behavior from typically lower class 18-23 year olds. i am positive that the behavior in the states from their counterparts would be similar.

Bktuna

Worse

Agree with the posts about age. People often mistake developmental stage for a cultural variable.

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