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Author:  VegasBob [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:33 am ]
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Yesterday a chica at the DR named Valentina (she has a sister Alejandra who also works there) was barred from the Del Rey. It seems that she went to the room of a client and spent time with him. Since I wasn't there in the room,I don't know exactly what happened but when they were through,he refused to pay her.She slapped him.He reported her to security and she was thrown out in tears. I think she is out indefinitely. My only comment about the chica is that I have spent a few hours with her at my house some time ago,and she was a pleasure to be with at that time. So the chica slaps a guy for taking the sex from her and refuses to pay her. I wonder what happens if a guy slaps a chica and she reports him.Probably nothing....... just doesn't seem fair.
Author:  Thirdworld [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:42 am ]
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Yeah, would definitely need more details to know what exactly happened. And he could have really deserved it but it sure wasn't a smart business move to slap a guest of the hotel. This guy could be a huge scumbag, but a hotel is always gonna protect it's guest, and as long as they get their chica fee, I don't think they are too worried about the chicas money. I feel for her, but she let emotions over tde her business sense. Should have just gone downstairs and spent the day trash talking him to every chica there.
Author:  Scottp1063 [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:51 am ]
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Sad news....another bad gringo story.

If you make a deal keep your end of the bargin. If you get upstairs and her price/service changes that is one thing. If you get the service pay and move on to the next.

I'm sure it wasn't CRT guy!
Author:  Hank Daman [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:58 am ]
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Scottp1063 wrote:
Sad news....another bad gringo story.

If you make a deal keep your end of the bargin. If you get upstairs and her price/service changes that is one thing. If you get the service pay and move on to the next.

I'm sure it wasn't CRT guy!


What makes you so sure? No offense, but it easily could have been a CRT guy. As far as the emotions of a chica taking over; I disagree with Thirdworld to some degree. ALL of us have our emotions overtake us; that is part of why we do this. To say that a women who just had sweety sex should be able to totally divorce herself from her emotions and see it as totally business; I am not sure. Yes, some chicas can do that, and THOSE are the ones that provide mechanical, emotionless service. Of course, her resorting to phyisical violence is nothing but wrong; IF that is what happned. I have also met Valentina, and have had drinks with her a couple of times. I never sessoned with her; always a timing thing. She does seem like a sweet girl; what happend in the room is anyone's guess.

While it was wrong, it was an honest response. I have heard about chicas who do not get paid calling the cops and suggesting they were hit themsvles; which can cuase MAJOR problems for the monger. So, if all the monger got was a slap on the face for not paying; mabye he got off easy. And for this, he ruines her career?

To me, any man who would put a chica in this situation is a coward...
Author:  Raw [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:22 pm ]
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I agree, the guy is a puss for reporting a simple slap in the face. Maybe a CRT member that is staying at the DR could sport Valentina into the DR as his Favorita and insist on her entry. Rebuild her credability. That is if she is indeed a sweet girl.
Author:  Zippy [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:34 pm ]
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These type of men that screw the chica & don't pay cause us all problems with the chicas demanding money up front. Even if they don't hold up their end of the deal & you are disappointed I would just pay them less & chalk it up to live & learn. Some men I have seen are #1 just plain cheap & don't have the money & take an attitude she is a puta so they will use this as their justification to phuck these chicas around & some of these men take pride in doing this. These men are the worst kind to me & should have their ASS thrown out on the street. The hotels will get wind of this if it happens repeatedly with one guy & he will be warned or thrown out eventually but I hate to see some Chica lose her chance to work & after all we know this one is OK as VB shoots straight with his facts & knows her to a degree. Would be nice to here both sides of this story.

This is a tough business just look at the mix & what a COCKTAIL it all really is! :?
Author:  Frankp [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:01 pm ]
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Any monger location I ve ever been to it is wise to pay the girl if she has sex even if its bad sex. Once she gets naked and some sex takes place far as I m concerned its wise to pay. Most locations I have been to are 3rd world and the girls usually can make problems with the police for the punter right or wrong.
Author:  Shawn4DelRey [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:28 pm ]
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You can be sure that her sister has spread the word about this. As mentioned... it will bring a scare to many of the chicas and we will hear about even more pay-first demands. If everything went down the way Bob heard it did , then that piece of shit deserved alot worse. I , for one, would love to shake this guy down and make him pay up. :twisted:
Author:  Irish Drifter [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:37 pm ]
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Raw wrote:
I agree, the guy is a puss for reporting a simple slap in the face. Maybe a CRT member that is staying at the DR could sport Valentina into the DR as his Favorita and insist on her entry. Rebuild her credability. That is if she is indeed a sweet girl.


This seems to be a major point of differences between what happens in the United States and Costa Rica.

Here we have someone saying..."insist on her entry". We have recently had post advocating rebellion against a hotel dress code. Prior to that there were cries to insist that the Presidente let you bring 2 girls to your room.

That may work sometimes in the US. In CR it not going to change a thing. A girl banned from the HDR or the Presidente is banned period until the hotel decides she has served her sentence and may return.

Like it not the old US creed of "We have the right to refuse service to ANYONE". You may think that is politically incorrect but in CR they really do not care.

This incident also reinforces why some chicas want to paid up front because of a prior bad experience.
Author:  Zippy [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:49 pm ]
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This is another reason if one likes you & trusts you; you can work a nice working arrangement with them. Once they know you are a normal male who takes care of your end of the deal word spreads & many of them don't ask for money up front. Reputation is important to your future mongering endeavors if you plan to repeat & you are only going to short change yourself by treating the p-ladies without mutual common dignity & respect. Like always what goes around comes around!! :wink: Also the chica getting banned isn’t all bad since it serves as a reminder that the men do have the better position in CR so this helps in keeping some nicer & more honest I would hope.

Unfortunately life is not always fair right or wrong as it may be?
:twisted:
Author:  Shawn4DelRey [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:07 pm ]
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Irish Drifter wrote:
Raw wrote:
I agree, the guy is a puss for reporting a simple slap in the face. Maybe a CRT member that is staying at the DR could sport Valentina into the DR as his Favorita and insist on her entry. Rebuild her credability. That is if she is indeed a sweet girl.


This seems to be a major point of differences between what happens in the United States and Costa Rica.

Here we have someone saying..."insist on her entry". We have recently had post advocating rebellion against a hotel dress code. Prior to that there were cries to insist that the Presidente let you bring 2 girls to your room.

That may work sometimes in the US. In CR it not going to change a thing. A girl banned from the HDR or the Presidente is banned period until the hotel decides she has served her sentence and may return.

Like it not the old US creed of "We have the right to refuse service to ANYONE". You may think that is politically incorrect but in CR they really do not care.

This incident also reinforces why some chicas want to paid up front because of a prior bad experience.
This is all true ID , but even in the states nothing ever gets changed without people voicing thier opinions. They value our money in CR and eventually I believe they will realize that making small changes to keep thier regular customers happy is a smart move. Intelligent business owners ALWAYS care. I hope they let her back in , find the fella with the rosy cheek and ban him.
Author:  Budlite [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:46 pm ]
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it seems the everybody is on the side of this chica and bashing this guy.but from the time i have bee usng this board i have the vets say never pay upfront.maybe this guy is cheap or maybe his chica tried to pull a fastone ,but we dont know so lets not take sides just yet. we have all at one time or another taken chicas back to the room to have them change what was agreed upon.and if she hit the guy then she should be blacklisted. i had a chica try something similar on one trip . nothing stays a secret for long in cr so the truth will come out .but lets just wait.
Author:  Hank Daman [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:56 pm ]
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Budlite wrote:
it seems the everybody is on the side of this chica and bashing this guy.but from the time i have bee usng this board i have the vets say never pay upfront.maybe this guy is cheap or maybe his chica tried to pull a fastone ,but we dont know so lets not take sides just yet. we have all at one time or another taken chicas back to the room to have them change what was agreed upon.and if she hit the guy then she should be blacklisted. i had a chica try something similar on one trip . nothing stays a secret for long in cr so the truth will come out .but lets just wait.


The difference is Budlite, this is a chica who IS known.....
Author:  Zippy [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:15 pm ]
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Who really knows for sure here but one thing I know for fact is I have been playing with the Chicas for over 20 years now & been with several thousand or more (who even counts once in this environment??) & I have never had a fight with anyone of my playmates or had to call security but I have threaten them in a nice way I would if they would not leave I would have too. I have not short changed any of them or tried to pull a fast one but am up front & very selective to who is my type. All did not perform up to what I would have hoped but I accept this as a cost of doing business & it doesn't upset me much since I expect some of this & just think NEXT. There are some that are plain psycho but like Psychman said this one is a known.

One thing that helps me I feel is I am never drunk & stay in control of the situation. I am not there to pollute my brain with intoxicants but there to relieve my natural desires. There is no big feat to having a lot of playmates in CR just mainly money & it really isn’t as expensive as many wives could have been but just want to show that this type of situation can be avoided with intelligence & communication. Funny too me how some guys resent paying directly for pu$$y when I see it as cheap & more effective than really having to deal with them being involved in my life.

Will this trend continue only God really knows? Who knows maybe I will become a CRANKY old SOB mongerer when I am so old & ugly the chicas even fall out of love with my wallet? :roll: :lol: :lol:
Author:  Irish Drifter [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:18 pm ]
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Shawn4DelRey wrote:

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This is all true ID , but even in the states nothing ever gets changed without people voicing thier opinions. They value our money in CR and eventually I believe they will realize that making small changes to keep thier regular customers happy is a smart move. Intelligent business owners ALWAYS care.


There is no argument with that. The disagreement becomes in how the opinion is delivered. Taking a reasoned low key approach in voicing your concern with a policy is fine but what is being advocated more and more in some posts here is far from a reasoned approach.

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Maybe a CRT member that is staying at the DR could sport Valentina into the DR as his Favorita and insist on her entry


I do not believe being confrontational is the way to go and the use of the word insist is to me a buzz word for an "in your face" type of protest rather than a voicing of an opinion.
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