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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:32 am 
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For purposes of this short story, a "gringa" is any women over 18 who's been in this country more than a nano-second.

I have had a run of moderately good fortune on South Beach for the last several months, but with a series of odd events, 3 girls with whom I'd developed friendships have all left town for unrelated reasons. I was settling back to normalcy, which means while you can be broadsided by a beautiful woman when you least expect it, it's not something you can count on. I go to no strip clubs here, nor MP's, and only rarely to a dance club, save for a funky club on Washington called Club Deep.

Working until late yesterday, I was zombied out waiting for the Metro Rail to take me from SW Miami to the Beach. I was sitting half awake, when this exotic girl wearing very striking fashion walked past. She sat down near to me and must have caught me (and it) waking up. I noticed she was not American-looking, although she might have been Hawiian. There was something Asian going on and she had longish, wavey brown hair with streaks of blond. She also had a nice body and was tan.

Out of nowhere she started asking me details of using the train/bus system, appearing to be a novice. It's funny how sometimes good-looking women will be so open, but it's certainly not customary. Hot women can sit back and wait to be approached. I still do a fair amount of phone number collecting using the numbers game to get 1 or 2 out of ten to go out with me, but last night I was too tired and easily would have left this girl alone.

We were chatting when the train came, she got on board, I followed, and sat next to her. Turns out she's a fashion designer with big ideas and a 24/7 compulsion to become rich, and she just may. But for now, she was looking for another apartment, as she had a huge "falling out" with a female roommate. Of course I offered that I was planning to go to South America soon and would she like to see my apartment? I almost fell over when she agreed.

While still on the train she was talking on the cell to some business man-designer in New York and continued to be on and off the phone when we got to my apartment. Finally she said she was starved and turned her phone off. We talked about her 11 y.o. (she's 29), as I heated up some pizza. The father apparently got custody and they're in Arizona. No doubt it was a sensitive issue around her workaholic lifestyle and I didn't ask too many questions.

She ate, we talked, I drank, and it was turning out to be fun. On the train, and now on the sofa, and later on the balcony, she liked to look directly at me with serious eyes and attitude. Along with that, she was touching me a lot as she made her points about retail, and her ideas to put out a line of bikinis with real diamonds, to the tune of 50K each. Nobody's done it, and what better way for a tycoon playboy to show his appreciation to his current object of desire?

When a woman touches you as she talks, it's all good. It is a strong signal there's not a physical barrier, at least, and that she's attracted, at best. I'm always careful not to touch back AT ALL. Not once. Remember, women love challenge and mystery.

At one point I offered my shower and a towel. She said she would, but had nothing with her, but perhaps we could get together tomorrow night? Jesus Christ. Let me think about that for a phucking nano-second. She told me to call today, which I did, and of course, she was on the computer, haggling, cutting deals, and god knows what. She's got big dreams, like turning a million she's apparently been promised, into 50K in a year. We made plans for her to come over again - you guessed it - for another dinner, except this time it wouldn't be re-heated pizza (lol).

This is the part of the story that get's to the discussion about gringas, whether or not women are born here. If they've spent one instant on South Beach, being pursued easily, offered invitations to celeb parties, on and on, they're gringas, period. She let it slip out more than once, the celebs that she turned down, so....what do ya think happened? That's correct. I turned her down.

And this is how it went. She wanted to see some of my Brazil scenery photos, I agreed, but they're of course, intermingled with a large arsenal of garotas, smiling, clothed, unclothed, oiled up, etc. I like this for the "phuck you" value, because although I don't turn down P. Diddy for a party, I have enough fun, and don't have to hang on her every word (like, is it "yes" or "no?") By the same token, you're not a "normal" guy when you're with, and taking photos of, so many beautiful women. Those are her words, by the way, which came out later. At the same time, "normal" guys aren't always as advertised, so I could see her interest level remained high. She asked if she could stay over, that she really didn't want to see her roommate.

While I was doing the dishes (I insisted), we talked about several issues, like how it is we met - why we met, to be exact. I told her I thought she liked how I could give a shit about her "spirituality" or zeal to make millions, and that I liked how focussed and goal-oriented she was. She's all about money and me about ectasy, and that we each wished we had a little more of the other. Good phuckin theory, I thought.

Now the dishes were done and she had to (in my estimation) show she wasn't easy and play the gringa game. I had earlier touched briefly on why I go south, but it wasn't until she said she had a boyfriend who lived in Italy, that I felt okay to let her have both barrels. She could have told me at the train dock yesterday that she had a boyfriend, instead of only the Catholic thing. Now, she used the religion thing, coupled with the boyfriend. Bitch. I'm out two dinners and a $20-spot for taxi.

Even though earlier I had talked as though she could stay overnight, now I asked her where she was going to stay? She was a little surprised, said the thing about, "Oh, so that was why you offered" bullshit, that it wasn't a genuine offer, wasn't I a friend, etc. I told her men hate being friends with women, that it was a fate worse than death, and I wanted no part of it, thank you very much. Friends after phucking is one thing, quite seperate from BEFORE.

She asked if I wanted to come to her apartment and go in the jacuzzi, and I said no thanks. She said she's going to invite me Sunday, and I said nothing as she departed.

Years ago I would have hung on and, I think, eventually phucked her, because I believe the Italian boyfriend story is bullshit, and if she didn't like something about me, she would have never touched me, come over, asked to stay over, etc. But I simply don't have patience anymore. If she wants to see me again I'll ask her why if she has a boyfriend and I don't want to be friends? Please explain it. Funny thing is, I don't think I've heard the last of her, expressly because I told her to get the phuck out. She's usually the one used to telling celebs "No thanks". With my relocation to all points south in the near future, I have so little interest in groveling, I can't tell you.

Imagine the nerve of this bitch. That's what happens when you're nice. When she said she's going to invite me "one more time" to her apartment jacuzzi on Sunday, she left the door open to getting back to me, because her ego couldn't take that I was closing the door (literally) so quickly, that I didn't try to seduce her, attaching great value to her snatch. Phuck her. The only way I'll negotiate with her is if she's naked in bed. Then we can talk, and I'll tell her that. She knows from my photos how fine an assortment of treats there is in CR, Colombia and Brasil. She probably, with typical twisted gringa reasoning, figured she didn't want to be like the girls in the photos. Oh well, what can I say. In truth, she's not like the girls in the photos. She's nice but give me a break - we're talking 22 y.o. garotas here. The hottest Sobe has to offer maybe can compete with the 8's and 9's in Brazil.

So there you have it. A gringa who wasn't, but very much was. So what else is new...?

Jazz

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:43 am 
Jazz Musician wrote:
For purposes of this short story, a "gringa" is any women over 18 who's been in this country more than a nano-second.

Great definition! Even those sweet Latinas from Brazil, Costa Rica, Panama... where ever... they are all gringas the second they land on US soil.

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But I simply don't have patience anymore.

Oh man I can surely relate!

Great story. Thanks for sharing. I'd never trust a woman who doesn't have custody of her K*ds.... just something weird about these women from the start (usually very self centered and/or on drugs and/or done time in prison... so on and so on).

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I'd never trust a woman who doesn't have custody of her K*ds.... just something weird about these women from the start (usually very self centered and/or on drugs and/or done time in prison... so on and so on).

I agree 100% on this. When a woman can let go of a Ch*ld something is way wrong! I like women to have naturally loving instincts for Babi*s it is what I consider normal but I have seen too many gringas break this bond with being selfish & self centered. The I,me,me,me syndrome. The other big thing is I wonder if they are mentally stable??

Jazz thanks for sharing this classic example! I have been on both sides of the streets for many years & I never experience this BS mind game gringas play else where & I am not talking p4p types. We are comparing apples to apples. If a Latina touches you or focuses on you it is a go ahead signal where a gringa it is like a bait & switch game for awhile then you might get lucky if they feel like it. :evil: I can remember too many gringas were lets get close but no.no,no I didn't mean that & after a while it is no,no,no DON"T STOP!! Women like it about as much as us once they get going but only so many hoops I will jump before it just isn't worth the headache.

Some how I just see Latinas more genuine & consistanly more stable than the gringas as a group. Too many Gringas just don't know what they want from day to day & are in a constant state of flux with confusion..

Jazz she is probably very emotionally lonely is my guess & wants you to take care of this but totally on her terms. Hard to get excited about ones like this too me even just for a phuck once you experience women that play less games that are more direct & simply genuinely sweet with their affection. Jazz makes ones like this one you met look like the hardcore PUTA too me.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:17 am 
Careful Zippy... not really apples to apples when comparing gringas to latinas in a place other than the US. I've been checking out the personals sites lately and the attitude of US latinas isn't any different than the gringas. Women get to the US and their sweetness disappears (Blame it on the last generation of men in the US.... they let women out of the kitchen... they let their wives work and they sent their daughters to college... bastards! I have to deal with their educated and picky daughters... bastards!).


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Forgot to mention the main reason for the title; she's a Filipina, but been here for years. Speaks perfect English.

She left her K*D with a guy who she says was a friend. The guy called the cops when she was awol for two hours, leaving the K*D with him, she says. They put her ass in jail for Ch*ld neglect and she says in the interim the guy stole everything she had. After being in jail without bond money, she finally pled guilty to get out, but now has to see a parole officer.

She says it was all a big mistake, perpetrated against a foreignor with a student visa. I'm surprised they didn't deport her ass.

My sense is she's totally driven to make big money, is caught up with the "American Dream", and not unlike some men in our culture, abandons everything and anyone to "make it". She's attending a Versace party Saturday night and made sure to fill me in on all the details of how she got invited. I could have told her; she's a piece of ass.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:24 am 
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Watch it Jazz. If you keep ignoring her and refusing to play her games, you might just get raped. Remember, you are dealing with a convicted felon.

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I don't know, Jazz, I think I would have played this one out just to see where it went.

I think she played the boyfriend card just to test you. She just wanted to see what your reaction was. She was going to give it up or she wouldn't have come back the 2nd night.

She wanted to impress you with all of her contacts but maybe she realizes how phony they are and you're a REAL MAN!

Maybe it's just my sense of DESPERATION that would allow me to play along, as long as it didn't cost me anything, just to see how it would end up. Hell, I can't even get fat, ugly women to come on to me!

Of course you are the master and if you decided to blow her off I'm sure you had good reason.

Keep us informed if you make it to the jacuzzi.

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Jazz,my friend,you are now officially my idol. How many of we mortal men could hold out the way you did. The ONLY thing that could be better is if you ALLOW her to Phuck you,then tell her that the sexo was fair at best.
Question: In your exhaustive studies on this subject.... Do you find any difference between the born and raised Gringas and the foriegn born Gringas.


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She left her K*D with a guy who she says was a friend. The guy called the cops when she was awol for two hours, leaving the K*D with him, she says. They put her ass in jail for Ch*ld neglect and she says in the interim the guy stole everything she had. After being in jail without bond money, she finally pled guilty to get out, but now has to see a parole officer.

She says it was all a big mistake, perpetrated against a foreignor with a student visa


What a load of horse shit. Any public defender with half a brain could have helped her out of this if her side of the facts were true. If anything the court system over protects mothers.

When I got my first divorce we got joint custody with primary residency being with my wife. 6 weeks after we were divorced she calls me and tells me she can't handle my 6 year son and I need to come get him. She had moved 500 miles away from where I lived. I was there in 9 hours with custody papers in hand. I got my son and she lost her 3,300.00 a month Ch*ld support. In WV if I have one Ch*ld and she has one Ch*ld it cancels out Ch*ld support. She had bought a brand new double wide and moved her 2 sister and 1 brother in with her and my K*ds were sleeping on the couch. So being a gringas but it doesn't necessarily make a women smart. Her boy friend didn't like K*ds that was the real reason she wanted me to take my son. He has been with me since and I have never told him the story of how he came to live with me, but he knows.

So to get off topic this has been a real sore spot with me for 12 years.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:53 pm 
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Excellent post JM. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

You know she's intrigued.

Please keep us posted on the follow-up.

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On second read of this, DUH, it looks like she is a real mess too me & she will or already has come to grips with getting her first mil $, my crystal ball says she will not make it on her job but will start seeking it overtime from an older guy with money & getting him to sign the papers. :evil:

Good luck to the guy that wants her baggage. :wink:

You know when they have become a true gringa when they start to play with the professional shrinks & start looking for answers in the latest designer antidepressant or antianxiety drugs. I suggest taking a peek in her medicine cabinet this will tell you more than you want too know. But I could be wrong? :lol: :?

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I think Vegas and Wit have a point, but on close inspection, I think she's just a user and opportunist. I could smell it. She used my age in the below text message exchange today, which may have been a factor for her, but I think her mentioning age had more to do with her seeing the garota photos. Women around 30 are very paranoid about their own aging and so I think it was a "dig" at me. Moral of the story? NEVER show a woman you're considering phucking, photos of hot 22 y.o's. that you've taken! Deep down I think I knew she was full of shit, because otherwise I wouldn't have.

Here's how the text messaging went today. I consider this thing over.

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Me: U said my offer wasn't "genuine" (referring to her sleeping over). It was, but u didn't level with me by saying you had a boyfriend until after I made u dinner twice & offered help. Hmm...American

Her: I didn't know that u thought im attracted to u. (Bullshit!) I see u as a new friend.

Me: I asked if u were & u didn't answer.

Her: Your too old for me (Really? Then why did you have your hands all over me, Bitch?)

Me: I guess it's good 4 me so many younger than u think differently. Truth be told, ur a little old for me..but I'm glad ur finally honest. Only in America..

Her: Listen i met u as a friend thats it why cant u just be sweet? Im very picky with my man. I have many thats waitin on me. I do nt just go and sleep with any1

Me: (no response)

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OK. I took her name out of my phone. I expect no further contact with her - unless it's physical. (lol)

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Jazz, I have enjoyed reading all of this. And the pursuit of tang does drive us. But we ain't going to ever figure them out. I addmitt it is fun trying.

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R69 - Trust me, this doesn't dissuade me even a little from going after the next woman who gives mixed signals. Sometimes mixed siqnals turn in your favor. Sometime NO signals turn in your favor. But if you have to go down, let the bitch know you're onto her shit, otherwise you'll take her attitude into your next encounter. I EXPECT the next girl in that situation to phuck me, and why not? We've all had it happen. If she tells me up front she's got a boyfriend, or a freaky girlfriend, or she's a TS, or she's got a case of the craps.. that's different. This girl took my phone and put her number and name in it, and never gave any signal she didn't expect something rock-solid and slippery. She was all about hanging out, and from past experience, this was a green-light girl, and bet your grandmother's nest egg on it.

The other thing is some women hang out with guys their age and you're the first motherphucker over 40 she's intriged by. There's a 35 y.o. Colombiana who's now married living in Canada, but I knew her 5 years ago when I was the married one and she was 30 and single. We actually went through some conflicted times, she not wanting to see me too much, not showing up at rendezvous locations, and later finding out (from her) that in one instance she was driving around, deciding if she should see me or not. I was torn, too, because I really liked her and at the time, my marriage was headed in the southerly direction. But I remained married for a few more years and she wound up marrying a successful guy in his 30's (I think for the money for her and her daughter), but the point is, I was the first guy she ever boffed over 40. (We've continued emailing and chatting all these years and I'm actually going to go up for a clandestine visit with her before I go to South America. Save for photos, it's been almost 3 years since I've seen her. My god, what am I doing.)

So sometimes women themselves don't know they would do the wild thing with a "mature" man, and you show them the real shit (not to take anything from you young whipper-snappers). '

No, I think the first time I was told I was too old was when I was 17, a senior in highschool, and had a thing for this cute 14 y.o. freshman. Her parents thought I was too old, and damn if they didn't convince the girl. Since then I haven't let it bother me. There are always other fish to fry.

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Jazz, Have fun and live life to the fullest. So, now it is south America, the Philippines, Thailand and Canada. To get Columbian pu*sy.

Living the life.

And bang this one before you go so you will feel good about yourself. Then leave her crying. Maybe one of the other Bro's can get some rebound pu*sy.

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