Circus wrote:
NYG, my friend.
I don't know what doctors you have been talking to but I know a number of them and they are 90% against government take over. And, this bill is only the start of that slippery slope. Once you let government take over control, they will inflate the legislation with a bureaucratic nightmare of new rules, costs and restrictions. Once this takes hold in FOUR YEARS you will see many of our best physicians leaving the practice.
I've had several small business but thank God I do not have one now. Can you imagine paying the costs that this bill will require by law for four years before you or any of your employees will be covered. That's like telling me to buy a car or house for four years but I cannot own, use or get title to for four years. DOES ANYONE OUT THERE LIKE THAT DEAL ???? If you do, then you were never a business owner. How in hell can business be straddled with a government mandated new huge cost for four years and not get anything for it. While currently paying for medical coverage. Dammit...read the bill. That is if you can find it through the maze in over 2,700 pages of hidden items to take away your present freedoms.
Are many of you so naive as to think these politicians are intent on making sure you have a good medical coverage? NO......It is a power grab to take over 1/6th of the economy and make you wards of the state. They could give a shit about your welfare as long as they can control you through dictating what services you can get and eliminating the the insurance companies.
Other than the I.R.S. what program can fine you and/or send you to jail for not complying.....HELLO, this new health plan. That's right, if you refuse to pay for the plan then they will have the power to phuck you royally. Anyone out there care to argue with this fact?
I'm just amazed at intelligent posters on here that do not see the eventual demise of this country....socially and economically, if this bill is passed. NTM, on oncoming legislation of Cap & Trade and other horrendous stripping of our rights.
Just wait when our triple A rating with the world is decreased due to this administration's spending. Talk about real problems.....you have no idea what awaits you, family, daughter/sons, and grand Babi*s.....generations to come.
As for my screwed up son, CTY......Phuck you.
A mad vet and patriot,
Circus
Circus my main man, great to have you chiming in on this. I mean that from my heart!!!
The pundits are always trying to scare us and we all know they are smart enough to know that we have to have some kind of health reform. You also know that Obama is my guy! He is the first to get this far. I do have a couple problems though:
1. He is out there now putting a lot of heat on the Democrats to pass this but he is not connecting why you ask? EASY someone has told him he cannot make the basic point. We need to take some money from you rich folks to help these poor folks out or you may wind up poor folks too! Since our government cannot stand up to the weight of this current system and it will surely collapse in your grand kid’s lifetime. And when we our all dead and gone our K*ds K*ds will ask. WTF!!! Why didn’t those fools do something about this???
2. He conceded to quick. He should have said we need a system to compete against the private insurance companies. And when they say†oh we cannot compete against the deep pockets of the governmentâ€. He should have pointed out UPS and FedEx seem to be kicking the butt of the government’s post office!
Also a couple of my class mates practice in Canada. They cannot believe why we do not have universal health care like they do. I wonder that to. I ask you Circus or any of you gents: What do our insurance companies do for our health? In the summer I heard people do not want the government standing in between them and their Doctor. I was like huh? I come in early every Thursday to argue with insurance companies on behave of my patients because they are dictating my treatment plan. Without reviewing my notes or diagnostic test!
That is why Doctors are for this because we make enough money we just want to care for patients with insurance companies not staring over our shoulder. Nothing is this Bill says the government will be. Obama ran on that and there is nothing in the bill about a government take over. In fact it’s giving the insurance companies over 30 million more customers and mandating they buy insurance from them not the government.
NYG
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You should write for the TV spoof pundits 
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