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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:53 am 
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save your time and money ,,, the marriage will never work ,,, stay single and monger ,,, no headaches!! :D :D :D

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:06 am 
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In fact, my VIP card expired like a year ago and I never bother to renew it. The places that I visit don't know what the hell CRT is...and I like it!Dildo Man


DildoMan,

I believe that this site is worth the fee for the VIP card whether you use the discounts or not. We all need to support the Admins for providing this site for us. For you and others, surely this site and friendships are worth the yearly fee. Please support the site.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:48 am 
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DildoMan wrote:
In fact, my VIP card expired like a year ago and I never bother to renew it. The places that I visit don't know what the hell CRT is...and I like it!Dildo Man


DildoMan,

I believe that this site is worth the fee for the VIP card whether you use the discounts or not. We all need to support the Admins for providing this site for us. For you and others, surely this site and friendships are worth the yearly fee. Please support the site.

Have a Great Day,

Dave
i agree with DAVE, we do need to support this site. over 2,000 pictures, more discounts than you can shake a stick at.


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I don't know Tim Bones and have never met him. He could well be on the up and up. His posts are more insightful than 95% of the stuff written here and I agree with nearly all of his advice. If I'm wrong about the guy and offended him I sincerely apologize. At the very least he has not responded to those questioning him in the immature manner just demonstrated by Chupa.


Dude, I can't tell whether you like me or hate me, not that it really matters. I am going to answer the doubts with good humor.

Everything I have said is the truth. But becasue I am new to the board, but not a newbie to Costa Rica, Mongering or Latin America in general, some members feel that they have the right to question my credibility. Typical mess with the new guy stuff. Well, this is a free country, so I say go ahead and question my credibility and I will continue to post when I feel I can add something to the conversation. I am sorry if it sounds like bragging, but it is not, I am simply relating my experiences. I am sorry if you feel my experiences are dated, after I left the trademark work, I didn't travel for a while.

Personally, it was more like 7 years years ago when I was last bouncing around those parts regularly, from 93 to 98 as a civilian investigating trademark infringement.

Normally, it was just a week here and a week there, so it was a lot of P4P, but I was still getting some free action. I think that the reason we did well was not so much being young and in shape, (that certainly doesn't hurt) but having status and the the ability to speak the language.

As far as Chupanalgas is concerned: I worked with attorneys in every country in Latin America and although I didn't date any, there was one potential, but I didn't want to "fish off the company pier". (The gal ended up marrying an investigator from another firm). All of the lawyers I knew were either upper middle class or down right affluent. I think the firm we worked with in C.R was Facio & Canas, but that was a while ago, I could be wrong. I say this because I would find it even odder if a professional, such as an attorney asked for money.

The reason I continue to say not to send money is because post after post has documented that the majority of these girls are playing everyone. So, I balance that against my experiences (albeit dated) and I come to the conclusion that the guy is being played. Heck, a lot of guys even have admitted to having been played.

If Chupa's gal is a is a lawyer, then I would think that she would be earning at least a decent living, but that is just MHO, I could be wrong.

BTW, TMan, and Diego met me in CR during CRT's Labor Day Bash as well as a lot of the other members, one was an ex army captain and another was a lawyer out of New York, so I am a real person.

I will be in Costa Rica between Jan. 14 to the 24th, staying part of the time at the SL and the rest of the time diving in Guanacaste. I will be happy to buy the beer, at least the first round for any CRT member in house.

And BTW, I still got it, albeit a bit faded and softer around the middle.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:46 pm 
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Hey Chupa, A while ago you were worried how to handle this and its potential effects on your marriage:

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:46 am Post subject:

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is not funny Sparky, she is in love and cries to me everyday in telefono, she tells me how much she loves me and can't wait to see me again . She is breaking my heart , now what am I suppose to do? how can I bring her to the States ? what about my wife , it is nerve wrecking and is taking its toll on me .


Now you're planning to bring her to the states in December, marry her, and move to CR. Never mind the Visa issue. I'm just wondering how you handled the wife thing.

BTW, for the record, I'm not yet ready to admit Chupa's for real. Personally I think he's trolling and has picked two potentially hot issues ("sexo sin condon" and "me amor, puedo por favor tener un poco de dinero"), just to get reactions.

As W S Gilbert would have put it, "calculated to provoke remark."


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Damn, we even have a guy from small Delaware here. I lived there some time ago.


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I don't know Tim Bones and have never met him. He could well be on the up and up. His posts are more insightful than 95% of the stuff written here and I agree with nearly all of his advice. If I'm wrong about the guy and offended him I sincerely apologize. At the very least he has not responded to those questioning him in the immature manner just demonstrated by Chupa.


Dude, I can't tell whether you like me or hate me, not that it really matters. I am going to answer the doubts with good humor.
I'm glad you're taking it with good humor. For whatever its worth, I definitely don't hate you and sincerely hope you keep posting. Did that quote you just cited make it sound like I somehow hate you? :?

OTOH, I still think you're a hard person to figure out. What's with digging up all the ancient posts? Especially all the commentary on saps that fall for working girls? Personally, I think for 95% of the guys here you're preaching to the choir and the other 5% are going to do whatever they're going to do anyway. Just look at this Chumpa character. That is, assuming he's not just putting us all on.

Also for what its worth I wasn't questioning your credibility so much as its relevancy. Not just because it sounded like you were referring to events that happened 15-20 years ago when CR was a somewhat different place and you were much younger but also because you probably had fluency, contacts and local knowledge that gave you an advantage with certain elements of the population that most guys here could not really expect to duplicate.

IMHO, and I'll readily admit you may be right and I may be wrong, but IMHO even with spanish fluency most young attractive educated chicas still aren't going to be too interested in most significantly older slightly out of shape gringos that are passing through for a week or two every few months. If they come from good backgrounds and are educated they're not likely to be too hard up for our money (which is one of our main advantage over local guys). If they're attractive and educated they can have their choice of guys and are more likely to be interested in guys closer to their age similarly well educated and from good backgrounds who will be around for more than a week (the upper classes in CR are a small and tight community). What that generally leaves are the dogs (bag that) or older chicas (closer to our own age and temperment but probably losing their looks) or girls from more disadvantaged backgrounds with fewer desirable prospects. The young attractive ones from disadvantaged backgroundare going to be drawn to us significantly older slightly out of shape gringos mainly (though not necessarily entirely) because of our significantly greater wealth and the potential help that might represent for them gaining a better life. And that is probably largely true whether they are pro's or non-pro's. Like I said this might all be just conjecture but it makes sense to me. Anyway that's my theory, which you didn't really address, now feel free to tear it apart.

Also you didn't really answer my previous questions which I will repeat:
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My questions to TB are these.
1) Does he think that CR offers as much opportunity for a young guy to score with young chicas as it did 20 years ago? After all there has been a huge influx of gringos since then and we are not so rare or novel and the attitudes of the tico culture as a whole has undoubtedly changed towards gringos due to the money and attitudes we have brought with us.
2) Does he think the opportunities now that he is much older and presumably not as fit are as great with the younger better educated chicas? Targetting older chicas closer to ones on age can still be done regardless of class but I'm guessing the young hotties aren't going to be interested in us (even if we speak fluent spanish) unless they are poor or otherwise motivated in whole or in part by our money.
3) He constantly emphasizes the need to learn spanish, which I completely agree with, but does he think complete fluency is that realistic for the casual occasional visitor to CR or that broken spanish and a lousy line will help even the more regular older visitor to CR with the young non-dinero motivated chicas in CR?
4) I agree that guys fool themselves as much as the chicas fool them when they refer to the "novia" working girls, but is he saying there is never at least an element of personal chemistry and attraction between some of us and our favoritas? In other words, can't the girls have favoritas too?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:22 pm 
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My questions to TB are these.
1) Does he think that CR offers as much opportunity for a young guy to score with young chicas as it did 20 years ago? After all there has been a huge influx of gringos since then and we are not so rare or novel and the attitudes of the tico culture as a whole has undoubtedly changed towards gringos due to the money and attitudes we have brought with us.
2) Does he think the opportunities now that he is much older and presumably not as fit are as great with the younger better educated chicas? Targetting older chicas closer to ones on age can still be done regardless of class but I'm guessing the young hotties aren't going to be interested in us (even if we speak fluent spanish) unless they are poor or otherwise motivated in whole or in part by our money.
3) He constantly emphasizes the need to learn spanish, which I completely agree with, but does he think complete fluency is that realistic for the casual occasional visitor to CR or that broken spanish and a lousy line will help even the more regular older visitor to CR with the young non-dinero motivated chicas in CR?
4) I agree that guys fool themselves as much as the chicas fool them when they refer to the "novia" working girls, but is he saying there is never at least an element of personal chemistry and attraction between some of us and our favoritas? In other words, can't the girls have favoritas too?


1) Okay before I answer, when I was in Costa Rica with Caminos De La Paz it was 16 years ago as opposed to 20.

I believe that some of novelty of being a Gringo in SJ has worn off, but not all of the novelty. I would say that it is like a lot of other places, if you are different and they like the difference, it will serve to your advantage. This has worked for me getting laid with regular gals in Ireland (last Thanksgiving), Australia (Last time was in 98), U.K (Hen party in Dublin) & lots of other places. Difference is a defining characteristic for a lot of women as it is something that they can point to as a sign that you are better than the norm. Like I said, you get 5 bonus points in lots of places for being a gringo.

2) Don't know. I know lots of older guys in the states that married women a lot younger than them. Was it an economic decision? I think it always is, regardless. But the scale is different. The owner of the company I work for married a stripper. He is a very rich man with 2 jets, a yacht and a 30,000 foot house and 2 other lesser houses. So, I believe he married her because she was a hot stripper and she married him because he is flithy stinking rich. I would have to say I hope he got a pre-nup, but the same goes on in CR to a lesser extent. I would have to say, my answer to second question is I am only 46, and I will throw it out there to any tica gringa or what have you within range. 2 years ago, I dated a 27 year old in Louisville and she was transparently looking for security, but the sex was okay. The bottomline to me is that fortunately or unfortunately, money equals security and lots of women settle for security, normally after they have been around the track a few times.

3) Broken Spanish is better than no Spanish, unless you are in a regular business situation, then you need a translator. I look at it as an opportunity to practice the language. The biggest hurdle is being fearful to speak because you fear you may look foolish. To be honest, my accent is horrible, but I can carry on a conversation in depth with anyone and have no trouble anywhere in Spanish speaking countries.
To me, not knowing the language is like being seriously disadvantaged, akin to being deaf and mute so I would learn it for that reason alone.

4) Fine with me, it is no business of mine, however if someone asks my opinion, I will give it to them. I treat the girls like I do my favorite female bartender, she flirts with me and I with her and I tip her and she gives me good service, which is basically all I want. I have known girls that acted like they liked me and I liked them, but in reality, I never thought it was anything more than a professional services relationship. Sorry, but 20 years of bouncing around countries like Thailand, Korea, C.R. El Sal tends to jade a person.

Okay, my bottomline is this, I will P4P, but I will still try and make regular women in my travels as well as in the states. I will do this until I die regardless, it is part of the game. I know that I can't get the quality of women that I used to, but I will still try and play the game.

I hope I have answered all your questions.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:13 pm 
ok listen to LEE DO NOT SEND MONEY :!: HAVE A GREAT MONKEY :)


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Chupa I'm going down soon, just send the money to me and I'll be sure she earns it, I mean she gets it.



Funny shit right here!! :lol:


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Chupanalga wrote:

i know it is my biggest worry, but I saw someone in this Forum mentioned something about paying $2000 for a Viza , I am willing to do that if it is true.


CHUPA,
Dude send me a PM or hit me up on aol or yahoo
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thiscatnamedlou on yahoo
We need to talk man, i'll set you the F straight as far as sh it goes in my country. Will you be there from the 3rd of Nov - 8th of Nov by any chance?? I will be your wing man and set you on the right GOT DAMN path man, cause, right now man you are are only going to F yourself in the long run with these women from San Jose. I know 'em inside and out man, the whores, the regular girls in the streets, hard working ones, lawyers, etc. I'm not saying the other men on this site don't know 'em, but i have a first hand look at them with my, whole family there. I have many a contact in that town too, i can set some sort of sting operation with this so called lawyer. Shi.. man i don't know, just PM me man, if you are for real? :roll:
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:08 pm 
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but IMHO even with spanish fluency most young attractive educated chicas still aren't going to be too interested in most significantly older slightly out of shape gringos that are passing through for a week or two every few months. If they come from good backgrounds and are educated they're not likely to be too hard up for our money (which is one of our main advantage over local guys). If they're attractive and educated they can have their choice of guys and are more likely to be interested in guys closer to their age similarly well educated and from good backgrounds who will be around for more than a week (the upper classes in CR are a small and tight community). What that generally leaves are the dogs (bag that) or older chicas (closer to our own age and temperment but probably losing their looks) or girls from more disadvantaged backgrounds with fewer desirable prospects. The young attractive ones from disadvantaged backgroundare going to be drawn to us significantly older slightly out of shape gringos mainly (though not necessarily entirely) because of our significantly greater wealth and the potential help that might represent for them gaining a better life.


From my experience this is 1000% right on exactly. But I agree there is still some mystic that thrills the Latinas with Gringos. For example I was shopping with a Tica 20 years younger than me even though I have heard we don't look that out of place but an obvious age difference. I never grope any women in public at all simply act like friends which is what we are with a little P4P on the side. I noticed where ever we went many young Latinas giving us the eye but the older ones did not. It really made me feel uncomfortable because I don't like being noticed & like my privacy so I asked my very attractive friend what is up with this? She said look we make an attractive couple & get noticed, they are just jealous & would love to be in my shoes. Many of the better class will not have much to do with 20 years age difference YMMV but they do love that father figure.

Interesting to me this Latina is poor but seems to be funded by someone with some money since she lives very well & has enough class that she would not embarrass you in front of the Queen. I asked her who taught he this etiquette & she said her grandmother. I hope the guy funding this deal is getting his money's worth out of it because I don't see them so loyal.


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