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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:21 pm 
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Actually, ID, that was at least a partial mistatement on my part (and critical since it led to your own confusion as to what I really meant to say). When I wrote ICE, I actually meant COSTA RICA's immigration department not US ICE. Mea culpa and a thousand "Hail Mary's" for that. Of course, I already know (or knew) that ICE is the (relatively new) name of the US's immigration department, but then I sometimes still refer to them as the INS (in fact see my quote below). So please forgive my tired old brain.

My periodic confusion on this matter is often compounded by the fact that CR does also have its own ICE (albeit, as you already pointed out and I already realized, that is their Electicity and Telecommunications utility company not their immigration) and, for that matter, also an ICT (for tourism), which is another very similar acronym, and even their own INS (which, as I'm sure you know, is like our SSA). So, while it was certainly my mistake, IMHO it probably was not all that an uncommon one for someone to make and so should be very understandable (as perhaps also was your confusion given what I DID write).

Now, no, I don't really expect you to be a mind reader :roll:. OTOH, I did say this at the start of the post where I first discussed the issue of immigration department involvement:
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CIA or INS, I still don't see why either of those agencies would have photos of Dominicanas unless maybe they had applied for a visa to the US. Perhaps he means CR Immigration? Is his wife a Tica herself? Or maybe the brother working for US Immigration used some sort of contact he had with a Tico counterpart rather than accessing it anywhere in the US's database. ...
Please note my mistaken reference to the US INS in the above quote and the fact that I myself in that very first sentence acknowledged that US immigration would not normally have any reason to have photos of Dominicanas in CR and that was even before you made your post on the subject.

Also, you should have noticed this from my very first sentence in the paragraph from where you took my quote:
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The more relevant question regarding how his wife got the photos becomes could she have gotten it through a connection at the CR Immigration. ...


Maybe those could/should have given you at least SOME clue about what I actually meant to say. And, even if you missed those earlier comments, the very context of what I was writing should have also given you a clue that I might have meant something else other than US ICE. Your most recent comments patronizingly explaining the obvious difference between US ICE and CR ICE, suggests to me that maybe you already did have a clue as to my confusion and just wanted to bust my balls about it rather than simply and more graciously say "Your last post makes no sense to me. You can't mean US ICE. Maybe you meant to say CR immigration since that would make more sense."

Of course, I realize the difference now (and even then though that was not what I wrote), but even if you took what I initially wrote at face value, "every person in the world" is NOT nearly the same thing as "every person who has passed through immigration into CR". AND, now that I've clarified that I meant to say COSTA RICA's immigration authorities (not ICE), it should clarify for you even more why I felt that they should have some sort of record of every person who has passed through immigration into their own country and it should also explain why they woud have records of previous deportees and the possible relevance of that comment.


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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:34 pm 
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My last post was a heads up to the married bros
This stuff may happen!!!! Will it?
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What goes on in Costa Rica may not say there????

On a side note
Being a PI aka Spy.. looking for a gringo in the gulch must be very easy , even easier with a pic and itinerary from the soon to be ex- wife

I thing that VB did the right thing by posting this... story or not
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:50 pm 
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With that being said, I think the thing that surprises me the most about this whole thing - is the fact that - with EVERYTHING that has allegedly happened to this guy - and he's BACK IN CR AGAIN!!! :shock:

I guess he's a sucker for punishment.... :roll:

Exactly what I was thinking when I read his post......

Dude, if you are still reading this thread and you are still in CR...........you're wife totally set you up and a PI is following your every move right now. So either get some excuses ready or prepare to pack when you get home. And if all this is true, and you did go back.......you probably wanted to get caught and end the marriage, b/c no one is that dumb or that reckless after dodging bullet #1. Sounds like your marriage is doomed anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:03 pm 
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Remember Mikey Styles and his behavior before and after he got caught by his wife? He was sure he was being so slick and tricky. Remember all those guys who have warned others about the perils of making a "former" working girl a "novia" and then went and did it themselves because "their chica was different"? How many guys have said something like it could never happen to them, because they're too smart or careful or whatever? The possible arrogance and/or gullibility of gringo mongers often knows no bounds. You may think you have them fooled, and maybe sometimes for at least a little while you do, but in the long run you're really only fooling yourself. If you're a married guy and you go off catting around in CR, then it is really only a matter of time before it destroys your marriage, assuming your marriage is not ALREADY effectively dead.


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Remember Mikey Styles and his behavior before and after he got caught by his wife? He was sure he was being so slick and tricky. Remember all those guys who have warned others about the perils of making a "former" working girl a "novia" and then went and did it themselves because "their chica was different"? How many guys have said something like it could never happen to them, because they're too smart or careful or whatever? The possible arrogance and/or gullibility of gringo mongers often knows no bounds. You may think you have them fooled, and maybe sometimes for at least a little while you do, but in the long run you're really only fooling yourself. If you're a married guy and you go off catting around in CR, then it is really only a matter of time before it destroys your marriage, assuming your marriage is not ALREADY effectively dead.

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:29 pm 
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Actually, ID, that was at least a partial mistatement on my part (and critical since it led to your own confusion as to what I really meant to say). When I wrote ICE, I actually meant COSTA RICA's immigration department not US ICE. Mea culpa and a thousand "Hail Mary's" for that. Of course, I already know (or knew) that ICE is the (relatively new) name of the US's immigration department, but then I sometimes still refer to them as the INS (in fact see my quote below). So please forgive my tired old brain.



Got luv it. A nice short (at least for Prolijo) to the point 95 word explanation of a misstatement leads to an additional 552 word explanation of why the misstatement should be disregarded because the fault lies with the reader not the writer. :shock: :roll: :P :lol:

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I'll tell you what, ID, I'll keep this really short so even YOU can understand it.

My point ALL ALONG has been that you're missing the forest for the trees. Be your usual cantankerous self and quibble about individual lines of VB's story or this guy's story or comments I've made myself all you want. You can even do something as petty as word count my posts or correct my spelling and grammar or fault me for my use of CAPITALS. I'll keep saying none of that matters because the most essential point of this whole thread is the simple fact that married guys probably can't rely on the HDR to keep details of their stay out of the hands of suspicious, inquisitive and highly motivated wives. And married guys staying at such a notorious place as the HDR (and not keeping that basic fact well-hidden from their wives) is one virtually guaranteed way of making their wives suspicious, inquisitive and highly motivated (if they weren't already).
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BTW, show me where I ever said that the "fault lies with the reader not the writer". What I did say was my mistatement was understandable and therefore should have been excusable, not that it wasn't my fault. I also said that your confusion as to what I meant stemmed directly from my mistatement and was therefore also could have been understandable (and excusable if you weren't such a ball-busting ass about it).


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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:26 pm 
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Prolijo wrote:
I'll tell you what, ID, I'll keep this really short so even YOU can understand it.

My point ALL ALONG has been that you're missing the forest for the trees. Be your usual cantankerous self and quibble about individual lines of VB's story or this guy's story or comments I've made myself all you want. You can even do something as petty as word count my posts or correct my spelling and grammar or fault me for my use of CAPITALS. I'll keep saying none of that matters because the most essential point of this whole thread is the simple fact that married guys probably can't rely on the HDR to keep details of their stay out of the hands of suspicious, inquisitive and highly motivated wives. And married guys staying at such a notorious place as the HDR (and not keeping that basic fact well-hidden from their wives) is one virtually guaranteed way of making their wives suspicious, inquisitive and highly motivated (if they weren't already).


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No problem pro. As soon as I get out of the forest, which by the way you planted; fertilized and watered with all the extraneous verbiage, I will admit you are never wrong.

Be sure to wait for it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now can we move on or do you have a thousand or so final words of wisdom on the subject :?: :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:39 pm 
oh this is like old times, pro and ID going at it.

love it!

it is like the early days of howard stern, you didn't listen because you liked him, you listened just to hear what he was going to say next... this thread, i could care less about the topic, pro and ID are so much more interesting so i read to see what they are going to say next. (okay okay ... i can't really read pro, i just skim really fast)


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Yeah a real battle of wits with an unarmed man, you know it's getting good when he has nothing better than to count words in Prolijo's posts. :lol:

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US ICE has access to CR ICE photos and the DR has photos of every little darling that crosses their threshold.

All are for sale (or free) and easily obtainable to anyone on the inside.

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Irish Drifter wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No problem pro. As soon as I get out of the forest, which by the way you planted; fertilized and watered with all the extraneous verbiage, I will admit you are never wrong.

Be sure to wait for it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now can we move on or do you have a thousand or so final words of wisdom on the subject :?: :roll:
There's no need for you to admit I'm never wrong, because at least I've been humble enough to admit my own errors on more than one occasion. Witness the following as but one recent example.
Prolijo wrote:
Actually, ID, that was at least a partial mistatement on my part (and critical since it led to your own confusion as to what I really meant to say). When I wrote ICE, I actually meant COSTA RICA's immigration department not US ICE. Mea culpa and a thousand "Hail Mary's" for that. ...
Besides, what makes you think anyone cares about YOUR notions of MY "infallibility"? It doesn't take very much for anyone to "admit" whether or not someone ELSE is wrong. Try owning up to your OWN shortcomings for a change. What we're all REALLY waiting for with SCANT hope is for you ever to admit YOU are wrong. Better yet, try admitting what an assinine dickwad you often are to various members of this board. In a similar way, do you really think I care whether you mock my writing style? Again, at least I have the humility to make fun of it often myself. Witness my choice of handle. I'd love to see you admit your own writing style which is to be obnoxious and abrasive to anyone you consider less knowledgeable or intelligent than yourself (and that appears to be everybody). But you can be sure I won't be waiting for it or holding my breath.

BTW, to save you the trouble, not counting quotes, the above comes out to "only" 192 words (not anywhere near 1000), so maybe I'm getting better.


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