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This will be my final post on this board, but I'm happy to PM with anyone interested.

Paco, it's really not a self-righteous power play, although I understand your interpretation.

It's actually my best effort to respect this board:

I feel like I walked into an AA meeting, and said "Let's talk about how great drinking is!" Maybe that's not the best analogy... but I feel that this is not the right forum for the issues I'm intersted in, and it's not right to try and 'bend' the board to my tastes, if everyone doesn't want that. I respect that there is a community of paying and contributing members, who view P4P differently than I do. And they should have the integrity of this board to discuss their common ideas, experiences, etc.

I love flaming/confrontation, etc. but I don't like being inappropriate. And 1 (fairly prominent) member has stepped up to request that I not continue to post.

Steve, I totally disagree that everyone should do what's best for them. CR is a tiny country, and there is only one HDR. With 6,000 members reading the same negotiating strategies and printing inappropriate interview questions the whole 'scene' is affected. And I think, for the worse. But members quickly posted to agree with you, which confirms my suspicion that I'm just in the wrong place.

Paco, "BFE- how and why" will be available via PM. I look forward to hearing your reactions.

I consider myself lucky to have met a few like-minded individuals via PM, etc... and as I've said in the past, I think the bulk of you are actually inadvertantly short-changing yourselves.

Anyhow, best of luck!

In dealing with humans there will always be a different mind-set or interpretation or result. Seldom will everyone in a cross-section of guys agree on everything.

Yes, a young guy in good shape will probably find it easier to build a "relationship" with a young girl than an older out of shape man.

Also, and YMMV please take note, it's ALWAYS easier to build a rapport with the ladies when you live in the country. That is no secret for anyone who has traveled any at all.

Now as to your arrogant self-serving posts, it's apparent to me that you think your generalizations of CRT members is somehow supposed to make all of us sit up and and beg you to PLEASE show us the error of our ways. I have news for you, my young friend, the members of CRT are as diverse as any broad group of guys can be.

Your negative statements and generalizations of the members of this site holds no more weight than your misguided quotes that all the girls think the same about every American.

Sorry, but your views, while possibly possessing some value, will always be tainted based on your narrow mindedness and arrogance.

If you are successful in your pursuit of ladies's affection than good for you. I'm sure you have many insights to share. It's too bad you can't get past your own ego to add something of value instead of just blowing smoke of how great you are and how bad everyone else is.

We always welcome positive information and sharing of experiences. New ideas are what a place like CRT is for.

As for myself, unless you change your attitude tremendously, I won't feel like I've missed much.

BINGO!

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I did not realize that we had lesbians posting on this site. This guy, oops, broad is out in left field.

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IMHO.... YMMV has gone overboard in two things: 1) his assessment of guys on this board and 2) his assessment of the chicas in the DR.

I'm not a newbie. I have spent almost 3 months in CR this year alone.

While I understand your point, and agree that gringos can clean-up their acts in CR. The gringos malos piss me off ott. However, you are, by no means, the only younger, fitter and more capable gringo in CR.

I'm going to stand by my original post... the girls in the DR are nothing but business. If you see it as anything more, then you are totally misguided. Eventually, you will get stung, if you consider it anything more.

I have established "friendship" relationships (very cautious) with several DR chicas. Next time I'm down, I'll buy you a beer and have THEM explain to you the whole situation.

Treat them with respect, but understand that you are not their romantic target. They want your money. If you want to take 'em out to dinner, and they like you, yeah... they'll will enjoy the gesture. If they don't like you, they'd rather you pay 'em cash for dinner and move on. They are street-smart chicas. Period.

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Reminds of the time i was at zona blue on the couch's before the bar was built and staircase,four well dressed guy's from los angeles,gold chain's,rolex's big cigars and they are high fiving each other and saying i,m a player ,bitch's lap up my shit etc.....and i thought to myself,so am i,i,ve just spent $40,same as you................

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Can you please enlighten me on the value of that post Pacatelo? This has been a long running thread with a lot of viewpoints discussed. While you may not agree with some of them why not just skip the derogatory comments?

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Double post.
Must be the cold medication.

Wit,

Think your post is on target. You have a nice concise way of sizing things up. For someone too make these kind of statements. Believe we appreciated his information but not his arrogance. Even real jerks I don't care much for I have learned some good things from most everyone has something to offer or some good parts to them.

Well for someone who thinks he is so smart is interesting to say this.
I don't know how others feel but that is plenty stupid too me & limits your growth. With this caviler attitude & huge ego he needs to feed it would lead one to speculate that he is the one being very arrogant & setting a bad example LIKE MY SHIT DOES NOT STINK with the chicas! I hope I am wrong because none of them need jerks to hurt them but don’t accuse us of this behavior when I do not see other members with this type of running arrogance Would have been nice to have a new member like him be of help instead of what he came here to do but to stoke his own ego which leaves few here in awe I bet. Also for someone to believe he has it all figured out after only one year & is smarter than all the rest is another very limiting aspect of his character.

I agree we will not miss him unless he would settle down some but he is a smart guy I feel if he would only channel it to good use. I feel he wants to only play games to feed his ego which by the way must be a full time job??

We could sit around & pick this apart like I tend to do but he is in the past & a waste of our time. I have mentioned this before but feel like we should be here to help each other & not judge each other as what we do as a hobby is considered questionably behavior by many but I see it as part of normal life & LvSteve hit the nail on the head with his post we should all seek our own happiness regardless of what others think as long as it does not intentionally hurt or belittle others one would think (trying to slow down on my I,I,I or me,me,mes).

A few other points can be made. One friend of mine I have posted about is as in shape & handsome as guys seem to get at least this is what the chicas tell me as they dog behind me I wish after me but they tell me they want my friend. Hey he is younger & better looking & I have had my day in the sun also but I still get all I can handle (like us all) so I am totally happy for him & help him as much as I can, what are friends for anyway but to help each other. What is cool for me to watch is the nice older gentlemen I see get the same Chicas as the stud so I my guess is we all get what we want & deserve or work for regardless which is great & Mr. Wonderful might be surprised here who is banging his babes when he is not around.

Another thing is why berate anyone else when we all are finding our own happiness it makes little sense but to help someone’s insecurities??

I am sure he is quite successful with the Latinas as he claims but a little NEWS FLASH WE ALL ARE!!

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YOunger and better looking has very little to do with most of the pros. Or at least all the ones I've hung out with and have gotten to be friends with. And this is just from my experience and things I've been told. And they had no reason to bullsh*t me in the situations we were talking. I'm 42 and in pretty good shape, so I'm not a hot young stud or a disgusting slob. One who had been with an 80 year old told me she doesn't even notice what they look like as long as they meet her price.

Thirdworld,

You are right but it goes way beyond this as one of the hottest young Colombiana card dealers at HDR 5 years ago told me in private I can have as many good looking young guys as I want but what I want is someone who I really have something with & she told me that she sees an older more mature man in her life & good looks are fine but not that important in her life compared to someone that will love & appreciate her & above all stay with her & be true. Believe me I saw proof of this as one nice looking very arrogant guy from California hit on her & offered her $500 for the night. She made an ugly face & told him to get lost. She did give me her # & we went out several times & I would like to say I banged her but I was short on time & it was going to be more work than I was willing to put in. She did insist I call etc so I knew where this was going but also knew I would never be sincere too her so I dropped it as p4p works better without the tears for me.

Everyone is not for sell but many are & they like all of us have their own very different agendas.

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Zippy;
Good reply (three up). For some reason, what you said about YMMV made me think of a monger named Hornswogger who used to post but no longer does - not because he's upset with the board but for personal reasons.
Horns was a "greek God" looking guy and when he would walk into the DR, there would be a minimum of 5 (no kidding) chicas litterally hanging on his arms, legs, neck and other body parts.
In the end, I'm sure he paid like all of us but Horns sure did attract 'em.
Oh, one other thing about Horns: HE WAS A NICE GUY WITH NO EGO!
Sure would like to see him back and posting in Costa Rica again.
LVSteve

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OMG...! It's ONLY a ph*cking tag line! But then again.... I could give a rat's ass about what YOU think is the right approach. I can only hope that, some day, I'll be able to find a chica to fulfill me!

LVSteve, IMHO your post said it all!

Pura Vida,
Mucho Gusto

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LVSteve,

There are many very good looking in shape guys that come thru CR every year but from what I have seen most are average. Everything has its advantages. You see many very handsome people end up with more problems than the average looking guy SURPRISE Mr. Wonderful?? You see people that get use to being so wonderful concentrating on good looks many seem to become one demensional but lets face it it does not last as we all tend to age if we are lucky to live long enough & guess what they have to get use to a lot harder fall as they are soon replaced by the knew young stud on the block. The average guy generally learns how to compensate & works on charm, wit, pesonality or finances etc so he is much better adjusted to the long road of life & usually doesn't have to rely on running around getting face lifts & taking antidepressants as he sees himself loosing all he ever had his looks. Again this is an area YMMV.

Some guys that have looks are very humble & well rounded. I do have another good friend that has done some acting & modeling & we run together down there at times. He stands around being handsome & I tend to go out & quitely hussel & he gets so pissed like how do you do it. Hey he has all the tools over me but does not put them to good use.

One thing you can learn fast in CR NEVER EVER SELL YOUR SELF SHORT!!
Aim high & believe in yourself what do you have to loose but be pleasant & not arrogant about it which the Latinas seem too accept better from what I know.

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Irish Drifter,

To answer your question why I made the derogatory post in reply to this post by YMMV is because it is clear that this individual only was posting on this site to try and be derogatory towards us mongers. It appears to me that they might even be posting on this site by mistake. I saw it all time that some newbie comes along and thinks they know it all and they then want to stuff their know it all self righteous ideas down our throats and I thought I would fire back. I have been a monger for about ten years now and lived in CR for almost two years and I don't really like it when some one acts like they have all the answers and try to tell everyone how we should negotiate, act, etc.... That is all, happy mongering to all the dudes who make this site informative and helpful.

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