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Why is it so many folks--some of them highly educated professionals--spell the abbreviation of et cetera (and other things) as ect? nervousness? Indifference? Some factor I haven't considered? What? And then compound the error by using that when it should be et allii (et al.--and other persons). I grieve for our language.

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thanks for the pertinent post...too bad that PerroSuckmeoff can't comprehend anything you write, or he would be all over you also

I can be pertinent and impertinent at the same time. I grieve for our language.

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Once again I disagree with this notion. Its none of my business what other guys pay nor have I ever asked someone that question (ever). I refuse to think other guys paying cien should effect my negotiations. I would hate to feel I ever needed to rely on others to get what I was looking for.

Intersting question I thought... Have you guys ever considered the guys "throwing" out hundo's aren't trying to portray some big balla image, but rather because (they) feel that's the best they can do with that particular chica? I think there seems to be a lot of pressure from other guys on dollar amout. No one ever considers the savvyness (Jazz, is that a word?) of a chica..

If a chica quotes high prices chances are she don't care if you pay it or not. Chicas price walk, and that price is usually cien (sometimes even higher)

So again, I think as men who travel there we are too hard on each other concerning what we pay. I've said before, that if guys concentrated more on the type of session they wanted instead of bottom dollar, CR will be a better place. Imagine if you could pre-screen performance..

Pfft, you think chicas Phuck us all the same?

'chacho, por favor....


Cujo

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I am not offended by anyone on this board. But after reading some of your foolishness over the years this offends me

NYG

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I'm with you on this Brother NYG. We've had a couple of months of essentially info-only or ya-ya Threads (yeah, I'm including mine), and now we have a heart-felt discussion and a Brother calls it dumb??

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Just trying to have a few laughs while I can still don't get the original point of this thread then it bogged down into the decades old debate telling others how much everyone should pay so maybe I'm the dumb one for calling the argument dumb. You being offended after calling Chilimike an idiot for no good reason is hypocritical.

As far as the money argument I've always felt that in CR the guy that pays 50 AND the guy that pays 150 for the same thing doesn't matter to me OR do they affect what I pay. Cheapskates and big spenders make the gulch go 'round, who gives a crap shut up and go have fun!

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Man... how the hell did I miss this thread ??!? I disagree with Paco about this being a dumb thread. But I will say that this topic is one of the oldest and most argued about topics on CRT. I started a thread in January, 2010 about paying CIEN and got some pretty good comments on it. For those who are too lazy to look it up, here's what I wrote. I'm posting this, as it seems to fall right in line with this topic:

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The Great "CIEN" Debate

Ahhh. The everlasting and on-going CIEN debate! I had some free time today and I just finished reading yet ANOTHER thread about whether or not we should pay the chica's CIEN. It's been talked about on this forum before, many many many times, ad nauseum. In fact, it's probably one of the longest and most historically talked-about subjects on this board. But some guys still just don't get it. Some guys are still dead-set against paying Cien.

So what do I do? What the hell.... I figured I'd start another thread about it. If this helps to enlighten only ONE monger, then it's done it's job. Any more than that is gravy! This thread will be a little different than the other “cien” threads. I'm posting this from a different angle, in hopes of getting guys to change their way of thinking – when it comes to paying CIEN. Here goes.....

Let's try to spell it out - There's nothing wrong with paying cien! That's right... I've said it before and I'll say it again (newbies listen up) – THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH PAYING CIEN, BUT THERE MUST BE CONDITIONS! Besides that - when it comes to the “inner workings” of a chica's mind, no mortal man can (or ever will) figure out what goes on in their heads. But let's try to break it down a little bit, so guys aren't so “afraid” to pay cien. Or so that some guys might realize that – even though CIEN is a 4 letter word, it's not necessarily a bad thing.

There are an infinite amount of factors involved - when it comes to the “pricing structure equation” of this thing we call P4P. The problem is not about paying cien. The REAL problem is paying her cien for an hour (or less) of uninspired, mechanical, wham-bam, take-a-number, robotic, BJ con condom, assembly-line sex with all the fake moaning, fake orgasms and the bull$hit rules and attitude that go with it. THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM WITH PAYING CIEN! And when you pay as soon as you get to the room? Hell... that's a whole 'nother thread! If you're still confused, go back and read this paragraph again until the light goes on. IMO, this is what it's all about.

It seems like too many guys walk around places like the HDR, SL, KL with a hard-on, not only in their boxers, but they've got a hard-on about paying “the dreaded” Cien. It's almost like they've got blinders on. And because of this, they might be missing out on (what could be) a phenomenal session with a hot and horny Latina (yes, believe it or not – they DO get horny)!

Gentlemen... it's business, plain and simple. But you can play the game without that “business” feel if you want to. Granted, you have to NEGOTIATE, but that's where the business part of it should begin and end. If you don't want to pay Cien, you don't have to. There's a ton of other options around town where you can get your plumbing taken care of for a FRACTION of that amount. They're called MP's !!! And there's no negotiating necessary. You simply point and shoot.

But for the most part, I think the real “cien debate” is mostly referring to the 1 hour chica's we meet in the more popular places like the Del Rey, Sportsmens Lodge and Key Largo . Do most chica's quote cien right off the bat??? Of course! Big phucking deal. Who gives a shit! No worries !!! They're working and they need to make money. Nothing wrong with that. I'd be doing the same thing if I were in their shoes. But you can't lose sight of the fact that it's a 2-way street.

We have what they want ($$$), and they have what we want (pu$$y). Agree on the price and the “options” (see below), and let the fun begin. When you're done, do the right thing and give them the agreed upon amount, propina optional. And then if you want, get their number for future reference. Then you simply repeat this process as many times as your schlong (or wallet) lets you!

You've just got to find an agreeable middle-ground that makes it a win-win for both parties, without spoiling the mood or making it “feel” like business transaction. And this can be done relatively easily, without insulting them and without hurting your wallet. Simply negotiate with her, but try to keep it light. If she's hardcore, she probably won't come off her amount, and those are the best kind of chica's to walk away from. She's ultimately doing you a favor by making it a simple decision for you. NEXT!

Lots of guys will tell you (and they're RIGHT) that many times, the hottest chica's in the bar are not the hottest chica's en la cama! As far as I'm concerned, I'll take a playful “7” with a great attitude over a mechanical “10” who thinks she's doing you a favor by talking to you.

Simply put - Cien is NOT an unfair price, but it should be a conditional price. And since we are the ones with the $$$, we should be the ones to make that final decision on what we spend, and who we spend it on. IMHO - there's NOTHING wrong with paying cien if you can negotiate some (or all) of the following:
Multiple hours (or multiple chicas for an hour), chica masturbation, BBBJ, multiple pops (for you and/or her), gaping, CIM, double penetration, bondage, TLN, sex toys, anal, propina, pics / video, poultry, livestock, and anything else that you kinky phuckers can think of.

In summary - don't let the inevitable, opening quote of CIEN be the governing factor, and don't get your panties in a bunch when she asks for it. Try to focus on the QUALITY of the upcoming session, not the QUANTITY of money that you're spending. And remember – that once you get home from your trip, chances are better-than-average that you'll remember those outstanding sessions MORE than how much $$$ you spent on vacation.

And one last thing.... lots of guys talk about how bad it is - when all the other guys (who pay cien) supposedly “ruin” it for everyone else. Every time someone writes that, I wanna spew my coffee on my keyboard! The amount of CRT members who are in the gulch – at any given time – are nothing but a small fraction of the overall amount of mongers on the scene. And IMO, we will NEVER change the inner-workings of the chica's minds. But the one thing we have going for us, is the information we share amongst ourselves. That in itself gives us the knowledge and helps prepare us (especially newbies) for the field of battle that we call “the gulch”!

I've been to CR more than a couple of times, and I've been with more than a couple of chica's. And to this day – I've never let the mongers (who've gone before me) govern what I'm going to pay! Of course and as always.... YMMV !

- Go to CR.
- Don't make too many plans.
- Enjoy yourselves.
- Party with friends.
- Have a few drinks.
- Eat some good food.
- Phuck like rabbits.
- Wrap that rascal.
- Treat the chica's nice.
- Laugh a lot.
And above all - don't sweat the little things.

Life's just too damn short......

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Here's the link if anyone wants to read all the follow-up responses:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32158

MG

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Mucho Gusto

I agree, I just tire of the I got so much game I can get it for free, Haven't met many that is true about, I do pay cien for one gal every visit and we have never mentioned money ever, we spend hours go to dinner among other things and I will continue.

I guess I tire of the bickering and my way is the only way attitude I see more of now and the oh so much arguing, yet I never see it in person!

I can get stateside for cien, what about the old timers 10 years and farther ago who argue the cien debate, the cost of living in CR hasn't gone up to match the P4P so what really gives, I guess it's arrogance, no in reality others paying to easily to women I don't do here for free is at least a road block that I do overcome but I guess it's part of the game.

No offense to those I guess I will never be as studly as but I will say I do spread some money around frivolously, I do this to the maids, cooks, Bartenders, front desk people and even bring specialty police flashlights to the guards at the SL. I don't mind spending freely on vacation, I like to do pretty much as Mucho said in the above post.

I am still new in comparison and at first I wanted to meet everyone here, now not so much. The chest thumping I am right guy's I would rather not thank you!

Dave

Bali here I come!

But maybe I am dense but everyone paying cien for 1 hour or less as you say of no frills sex with a rubber doll does effect me and everyone else IMHO

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LOL I would Love to never hear the word game used again ever again! :)

Neither have I Dave, ever. And you won't see it, doesn't happen in person. I think a big reason for that is because they are in SJO and couldn't give a shit less, just loving life. Get home, and not in such good mood! I have been in a shitty mood for 2 yrs

Thanks Smelvis. Everytime I hear "game" it just brings a smile to my face...

Gotcha, my bad I thought you said you were tired of guys throwing around cien and thus ruining it for others....

My comments were that it doesn't matter what others pay when a chica is about to charge us individually.

That's all,

Cujo

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I know that reading and comprehending English is not a requirement on this board but the fact I am tired of cheap folks was the point of the thread and it was explained.

That said I am tired of the cheap bastards on this board man . My God somebody once said if you have to ask the price you cannot afford it. What is the point of a vacation if you do not spend loot. I mean why bother going if you are using a credit card you cannot pay back the next month

My point is why go on vacation after working hard all year and try to cut corners on cabs, food, hotels and chicas. I bet some of these cats never leave a tip for the housekeeper for keeping the sheets clean or the towels dry AND WHAT IS 10 BUCKS TO YOU IS THE WORLD TO THEM I feel a person should do what they feel. But this is an information sight and a newby could think he or she could have a good time mongering for under 300 bucks And we all know that is BS

Prior quotes in BOLD

NYG

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Interesting bit of righteous indignation.... Who is teaching newbies that they can have a good time mongering for $300? Are you talking about the entire cost of a CR trip? If so then you`d just be screaming at a straw man because even the lower air fares alone are going to run in that range. However $300 for a weekend, the mongering ONLY, absolutely, that`s very possible in SJO, and it would involve a "good time" for many. Which is it though? Or are you complaining about something else, in the context of the "$300" and these bad posters misleading the "newbies"? $300 for precisely what? One needs more than "reading comprehension" but for you to explain more of what you are tallking about when claiming that some here mislead by giving the impression that all that is needed is $300...

As to the rest, and this famous quote:



That`s very true if you`re talking some custom yact owned by one of the Vanderbilts. ie.
"if money is an object this item is probably not for you," but money IS an object for many who take short vacations to SJO. Budgeting a vacation is in fact a common practice, here and elsewhere. It is a most common practice for all sorts of vacations and involves discussion on ways to save on lodging, transportations, entertainment, etc. This is all allowed and encouraged in here, and in the end I doubt you`ve made any progress toward discouraging it. Not that it is even any of your business, how people choose to budget their trips, so in the interest of your BP a bit of live and let live may be in order, all while doing your own vacations in the manner that suits you...