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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:01 pm 
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Yep, It always amazes when I see a guy walk up to a chica that has shown absolutly no interest in the guy; he says "hi" in english; she says "hola"; he says "what is your name"; she says "xxxx and what is your name"; he, "xxxx, LETS GOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :shock: :? :(

I saw this just a couple of days ago and IT WAS A GUY THAT HAS BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES, NOT A NEWBIE; BUT he sure acted like one :cry: :evil:

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What is funny too me is we as men do not have to do much at all there to have them at a reduced price. Just let them do the talking (which they love to do) & you just act so-so interested or say nothing at all back to them. Many men are so anxious they are falling all over themself to get laid :) .

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IMO, this is one of the simplest, and most easy-to-understand statements that I've read, regarding the never-ending "cien" issue.

Just let them talk, and don't act like you're starving to get laid. If they keep talking, it gives you the upper hand. If they aren't interested in going with you, then they'll eventually shut-up and move on.

Let them work the deal. Many times, it makes them feel better because they think that THEY made the final decision. Let them make the sale, not you. Ultimately, WE are the clients, and WE make the final decision. Let 'em work for it.

And one more thing that I like to do, as they're talking to me in their rapid-fire Español....... I will continually "check out the room" as they're talking, and I make sure they see me looking around. I want them to know that they're not the only game in town, and I want them to try to convince me that they'll take care of me "much better" than all their competitors. Of course, YMMV.

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Zippy, very well said. I use similar tactics, but again it's not to lower my price but rather to guage what she will or will not do, how much time she has etc...


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One other thought on the subject:

Some guys say "yep but I have the 'game' and I am plucking the real 'hotties'" and that I(me) am not or am settling for so so chicas 8) :wink: :roll: What they are plucking are the bitches with an attitude and so so interest in him; $$$, yes- him, no :!: :!: :roll: And if he HAS SO MUCH 'GAME', why is he paying soooooo much?? :?: :idea: :shock: :twisted:

What I am plucking are the 8-10s with personallity who show an interest in me not just my money; who enjoy having a good time and want to have fun, not just make a $$. Sure $s are all of the chicas ultimate goal, but there are some that still enjoy plucking and having a good time.

I am here to have a good time, enjoy my life, and pluck my brains out (what few I have) :idea: :twisted: 8) I am not here to deal with arrogant attitudes and DRAMA. And I am doing it on SS, not on an expense account or mucho $$$$s in the bank; 4 ex-wifes got that :evil: :cry: :x

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What I am plucking are the 8-10s with personality who show an interest in me not just my money
I agree with this. Why mess with anything less for me because I am playing with my fantasies here & not trying to find love in all the wrong places :wink: :) !!!! If they don't reach my 80% mark of what I need I will not go at all. Just my rules to myself. It can be frustrating at times when I find the bright eyes & personality I am looking for but the ass is too wide of load for me. It kills the deal. I sure will not go with a 10 that looks at the wall or another guy while she is talking to me. That is just worse than awful in my book!

My last trip I did more Colombianas than normal but they were very nice & cost no more than the rest for me. A pleasant surprise :) ! I like to talk to them since I find many that have had a good education in Colombia. This is better than the non-stop lip flappings of some of the other Latinas for me. They also are smart enough to see value in men that have their shit together & keep themselves attractive. Being a drunk burping in their face or blowing smoke in their face really doesn't do much to entice them to a better deal.

I by no means am anything special but I feel I make the most of what I have. It is fun for me to study the way the Latina I would like to go with acts towards other men. I see some real characters stroll past & she doesn't try to make any contact. I see a well kept man go by & she winks at him. These are good signs too me. I can see the amount of effort she is putting into to what she likes. They look around the room & obvious need money but little doubt they rather make it with someone they have some interest in also.

Something note worthy was the best performances came from what I rated as the prettiest Latinas. Many times we think they are so hot but they do not believe they are. Many are very modest & they know there are many very attractive alternatives for us. :) It is all GOOD! :D

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Yep, It always amazes when I see a guy walk up to a chica that has shown absolutly no interest in the guy; he says "hi" in english; she says "hola"; he says "what is your name"; she says "xxxx and what is your name"; he, "xxxx, LETS GOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :shock: :? :(


Maybe you saw me.... :lol: Seriously though, that isn`t far from what I do and I`m no newbie. I favor the ones off by themselves rather than the ones making eyes around the bar. I know perhaps 150 Spanish words and cannot sit down and have any real conversation or "get to know you" session. And I don`t care if the chica is interested in me or not as all are interested in the greenbacks in my pocket. I exchange some nicities and ask their price. I then start a negotiation which includes price and what I want. Sometimes I prevail, sometimes it breaks down on the cien uno hora point. Truth be known, I`d bet many prefer a guy who gets to the point rather than one they have to first chat up for a hour. That`s more work. Hey it can be fun to pretend this is a regular pickup bar, but it`s a brothel.


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In my experience some of the quiet shy chicas become very wild once in the sack. Just like some preachers daughters during their first semester in college :shock:

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Truth be known, I`d bet many prefer a guy who gets to the point rather than one they have to first chat up for a hour. That`s more work. Hey it can be fun to pretend this is a regular pickup bar, but it`s a brothel.


I'll bet you are right. By my experience, if the chica knows you, knows she'll be safe and you'll try to show her good time then you can get a good deal but if you are complete strangers neither you nor she should want to beat around the bush. In the end this is business.


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In my experience some of the quiet shy chicas become very wild once in the sack. Just like some preachers daughters during their first semester in college


Very true El V... One of my best all time sessions was from a shy school teacher in one of her first (or the first) nights in the HDR.. She was very demure looking, 23 yo, a pleasant looking 7 or so but not a smoking hottie... She sure looked the teacher type with stylish glasses, short hair, and simple black skirt...

But underneath that unassuming look, a tiger was lurking and I was her raw meat... When her dress hit the floor, she had the tightest petite body with an azz that was perfect for plugging... She backed that bunda up and impaled herself on my swollen shaft... This sweet little chica was "All World" and I'm going back for seconds...

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I am definnately one of the "no cien" crowd, although I could care less what other guys pay and have even gone so far as to help chica friends get cien from guys. However, like MrLasVegas, I am not someone who doesn't enjoy the company of women. Infact, it is quite the opposite. I love their company, and they love mine, I just don't pay for it.

Let me explain. When I am paying a chica, I'm paying for sex. I'm not paying for some fantasy experience where she pretends she likes me and laughs at my jokes. I have never negotiated for a woman to go dancing/have dinner with me, etc as part of our financial arrangement.

That whole "experience" is something most chicas give me for free. That same chica I just paid $60 to Phuck will often stay afterwards just to hang out and have more fun. Chicas did more cooking in my apartment kitchen than I did. All for free. I've had chicas just stop by and knock on my hotel or apartment door. Sometimes they wanted to make some extra money. lots of times they just wanted to hang out. I had one little Nica that was in the neighborhood and brought me dinner because when she was in my apartment the day before I had just arrived, so there was no food in the house. When I offered to pay her she got pissed.

When it comes to the no-cien/low end crowd, in my experience, most of those guys seem MUCH more concerned with the connection they make with a chica than the cien crowd, IMHO. So many of the cien guys seem (to me) to be so focused on how hot a girl is as opposed to how much they connect with a girl. For me, I have seen little correlation between beauty and price and either NO or an INVERSE correlation between connection/gfe/friendliness and price.


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Truth be known, I`d bet many prefer a guy who gets to the point rather than one they have to first chat up for a hour. That`s more work. Hey it can be fun to pretend this is a regular pickup bar, but it`s a brothel.


I'll bet you are right. By my experience, if the chica knows you, knows she'll be safe and you'll try to show her good time then you can get a good deal but if you are complete strangers neither you nor she should want to beat around the bush. In the end this is business.


I have to agree with these two posters. I don't waste my time with an hour of chatting before our first hookup. This girl wants to get paid. That is why she is here. I've seen guys chat with a girl for two hours, buying them drinks, etc, then they don't close the deal with them. Usually the chica is pissed because she just wasted a few hours talking to a guy who didn't pay her.

but after we get to the hotel and have our fun and they get their money, usually the girls decide to hang out afterwards. The next time we get together, she'll want to just hang out and chat a lot more because she knows that she is going to get paid so there is no rush.


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I’m well apprised that CR is a third world country.

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Costa Rica is NOT a third world country. It is categorized as a second world, "Developing Nation". It has been for more than a decade. It has a 94% literacy rate and and 95% employment.

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94% Literacy rate? So your saying 6% can't read or write. I find that highly unlikely. The country tourism site likes to boost stats. "Developing Nation" Once the US takes it over maybe then it will be a second world nation. 95% employment? Ever drive thru the country side? Maybe 95% employment rate in the city, but not in rural communities. Not trying to argue here but these stats are BS!!!! Oh ya, P.S. NO CIEN

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I’m well apprised that CR is a third world country.

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Costa Rica is NOT a third world country. It is categorized as a second world, "Developing Nation". It has been for more than a decade. It has a 94% literacy rate and and 95% employment.

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94% Literacy rate? So your saying 6% can't read or write. I find that highly unlikely. The country tourism site likes to boost stats. "Developing Nation" Once the US takes it over maybe then it will be a second world nation. 95% employment? Ever drive thru the country side? Maybe 95% employment rate in the city, but not in rural communities. Not trying to argue here but these stats are BS!!!! Oh ya, P.S. NO CIEN


I know it comes as a big surprise, but....

Literacy:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 96%
male: 95.9%
female: 96.1% (2003 est.)

Unemployment rate:
6.6% (2006 est.)

Those are correct: https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... os/cs.html according to the CIA.

I do believe the employment figure, because if there were seriously high unemployment, CR would crack down on illegal Nicaraguans living in Costa Rica far more.

The stability within, among other things, allows for the education system to be quite good too.

Costa Rica is actually doing quite good actually. Even their CPI isn't so bad considering the last (I think) 3 Presidents went to jail: http://www.transparency.org/policy_rese ... s/cpi/2007 (corruption perception index). I guess the mess with past Presidents is water under the bridge.

There does need to be a middle ground - something between first world and third world. To put CR in the same bucket as Haiti, Somalia, Sudan, Laos and more would be a bit unfair to her.


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I have to be careful here as I don't want Admin to think this is a political statement. :( And this was written by who? :shock: The CIA. :o One of the most corrupt agencies in our government. :wink: There must be some momentary reason for these high figures. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected, but it still sounds high. Just my 2 cents.

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I have to be careful here as I don't want Admin to think this is a political statement. :( And this was written by who? :shock: The CIA. :o One of the most corrupt agencies in our government. :wink: There must be some momentary reason for these high figures. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected, but it still sounds high. Just my 2 cents.


LK, as for literacy, think about it this way, if elementary school is just slightly good, they can teach most people to read and write pretty good by 6th grade. From grade 1 to 6, K*ds do soak it up especially in environments such as CR where it is a stable country and K*ds aren't really consumed by computers and xbox and ipods and the like so this really does leave them to concentrate on their studies.

The employment number is high, but the jobs are not high end jobs so they are employed, but it doesn't mean they are doing anything that will change the world or make anyone anywhere near rich.

I have to admit though, the employment number does seem false when I look at data about the Philippines on the CIA site. They have unemployment in the Philippines pegged at 7.9%, however when I'm there, it seems like a hell of a lot more people than 7.9% are unemployed.

Actually now that I think about it a bit more, I think the USA, if you are out of the job market for X amount of time, you are not any longer counted as unemployed. After X amount of time, they label you as retired or willingly unemployed.


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