This thread is fascinating, and it sadly shows how clueless all of us are when it comes to the motives, goals, desires and tactics of women.
Duane2864 wrote: "
These girls will usually use and abuse you, because they think they want a normal relationship however they haven't the self worth to reward themselves
with a normal relationship. Usually, no matter what you do for one of these girls, she'll do something to mess up the good situation that you've offered
her. She doesn't even know why she messes up good situation, however she'll do it everytime! Bottom line is that most of these girls do not think they
are worth much so when they have it "all" they end up screwing it "all" up. They see themselves as low lifes (deep in their minds) so if they have it "all"
this doesn't go well with the "low life" image in their brain so they'll do everything they can to get back to "low life." They can't mentally handle the
"high life" that you think they want and that they think they want."
Duane, I truly admire your thoughts on this matter, but I don't believe that all putas (or women in general) suffer from low self-image or are historical victims of abuse.
however, it's always dangerous (and unwelcome) to ask a hooker _why_ she's a hooker. A working lady early in my hobbying career warned me never to ask that question. Fool that I am, I continued to ask, usually as part of postcoital pillow talk. From what I've been told by the chicas and other hobbyists, plus what I've read in psychology texts on the subject, there are a number of reasons the girls do what they do. Read this list and see how many of these apply to "civilian" girls you know closer to home:
1. Greed - part of capitalist culture since the dawn of time, this is the primary reason she's a hooker. All other reasons pale by comparison, and even girls who have other motives hold this one as well.
2. Addiction - The Life lends itself to drug and alcohol abuse and addiction. These girls don't work in churches. "The nightlife, ain't no good life..." but it's their life.
3. Lecherousness - Some hookers are actually addicted to the sex. It may be due to early sexual abuse, but this isn't always the case. Some women love the power that the sex act gives them, some are hooked by the actual sensations. This is perhaps the hardest one to quantify, as these women may have myriad reasons that they're perpetually horny.
4. Laziness. This is easy money, compared with housecleaning, factory work or picking coffee.
5. Low Self Image - Again, this is most often the result of abuse. She only feels her worth when she's "worshipped" by a client. This touches on what Duane2864 wrote. I believe that many hookers in fact have inflated self-images and believe they're more worthy than they actually are, but whether or not this is a defense mechanism for them is a matter for debate.
6. Bipolar Disorder - The manic phase of bipolar disorder is often characterized by hypersexuality ("lecherousness"). Earning a lot of money during the manic swing of the pendulum will allow them to be sleepy and reclusive when the pendulum swings the other way toward depression.
7. Slavery - We don't like to think about this very often, but it's probable that a number of women working out of the HDR/BM are there because of a sort of "indentured servitude." They are paying some criminal pimp/handler to pay off a debt, usually from travel expenses, forged papers, etc. Some are drug slaves.
8. Habit and Family Tradition - They do it because Mom and Auntie did it, and Grandma before them. One girl I met last year at ZB swore that she started hooking at 13 with her Mom's help, guidance and support, and in fact turned tricks in a room in their house reserved for that purpose.
Now, considering all these reasons and others which I haven't mentioned, would you really want to carry that much baggage into a relationship? Add to that the normal feminine love of drama (all women) and their false preconceptions of you (wealth, guarantee of survival, naivete', the belief that you're a sucker because you're male, etc.)...you
've got as Zippy so eloquently put it, "a dance of two venemous snakes." Not cool.
OTOH, unless you hire a private detective, how will you know your supposedly "non-pro" chica isn't part of the Life when you're not with her? I'm certain that many women engage in prostitution, although they'd never would call it that. Consider the woman who "marries well" in terms of the wealth of her spouse. The woman who screws you on Friday night, then pleads for a "loan" to fix her car on Saturday morning. The woman who gives love freely through the marriage vow, then who rapes you for half your property through divorce? This is a tough one to answer; I suspect that we as mongers have headed in this direction, simply because we intrinsically understand that we are the providers and they are the lovers and mothers, regardless of what modern feminism and changing roles for women would suggest.
I too have a loving wife who is loyal and wonderful in many ways. She teaches blind Ch*ldren, earns a decent living, is patient and supportive with me. Sadly, she is also almost asexual because of health problems and a far too Catholic upbringing. I don't want to lose her by hobbying, and so I have been very honest with her about my hobbying. She hates it, but she values the marriage and our friendship, even though I constantly test both by my actions. I am also forthcoming about my own hypersexuality with my girlfriends.
end of sermon.
