As always, you bring up very interesting views, and your willing, frank self-appraisal and the moral questions it raises are worth digesting and worthy of a thoughtful reply, which many of our CRT brothers have already done. Permit me to add mine.
Something to think about—We as CRT’ers for the most part do not trust working women. We talk about how they are liars and how they can never have the bar taken out of them, that you can never have a relationship with them and they will always resort back to their old ways and disappoint you, yada yada yada, so on and so forth.
This may be true, but how many of us ever stopped and wondered… how do WE stand in terms of trustworthiness in their eyes… you know what, forget about what they think for a second... Have we as a group done some real soul searching and really assessed if WE are worth trusting??
Here’s the reality of it all. In the gulch, we are all guilty of playing the game. The girls are prostitutes… they get paid to pretend they like you, they have sex with you for money and make you feel special for a given amount of time in exchange for your hard-earned cash. That in itself involves them having to lie and deceive for a living. Let’s be honest, we are not as sexy of bitches as they make us out to be, we are not that irresistible and desirous. They lie, and sometimes we make them out to be such bad people for the very thing that makes the difference between a ho-hum session and a phenomenal GFE experience. But now let’s look the other way for a second…
First of all, while I agree that this is a paid entertainment for the monger and a matter of survival for the lady, I cannot believe that the transaction is limited to colones, meat and heat.
You forget I observed you in the Blue Marlin. When approached by a lovely woman, you were delighted to discover that she had been your first BM girl.
You, a fit, attractive 30 year-old guy with a good job and flawless Spanish, keen mind, psychology background and indefatiguable desire for sex are certainly memorable, as is a sexy blind bitch such as I, surely a Gulch novelty, if nothing else. They touch us, we touch them. Lies or no, sometimes real stuff happens between liars.
We are mongers. As opposed to the women who do this out of necessity or circumstances, to pay for their Ch*ldren and families, we go do what we do strictly for selfish reasons. We CHOOSE to do this, and we are completely in self-serving mode, purely in a hedonistic, egotistical and selfish frame of mind. Who’s worse here, if we dare try to say any of us are wrong (us vs. them)? And now to the lying part… let’s not fool ourselves… some of us have wives and girlfriends back home. Others of us keep this hobby completely hidden from the world. There is a level of deception in many, if not all of us… and it doesn’t compare to some working girl who just does what she does to survive and continues the
Are you suggesting that this isn't a "need" for many of us? I don't know about you, but my recent trip filled a very real need. I was dying up here, a sexless marriage, a beloved lover some 1400 miles away and only rare chances to travel, no worthy local targets, and besides, small town equals big gossip.
GFE fantasy and makes an attempt at a long-distance request for what she needs most—Money.
I have talked to several of CRT’ers on this, and when the question comes up on whether or not one can have a healthy relationship with a worker, I always say why not? Why should we judge them for what they do? Who the Phuck are we to say they are trash and are used goods and can’t be trusted when we are the true whores here? In 7 trips to Costa Rica, I have had my way with over 70 different women, and I’ve had probably half as many women in the ‘normal world’… is that something I can ever admit to a normal girl whom I want to have a healthy relationship with, that I’ve been with 100+ women in my life?
Were you by any chance raised Catholic, as I was? I'm seeing some serious guilt here.

Ruff, you're a healthy 30 year-old with a somewhat accelerated libido. So what if you've done over 100 women (lucky bastard)! Did you have fun? How much real, non-exaggerated damage did you do to the women with whom you lay?
Let’s talk about fidelity for a second… I remember an old statistic I read in college (I’m a Psych major) regarding fidelity, and it stated that over 60% of married men have been unfaithful, and in my mind I thought, “and the other 40% just never got caught.†In my 30 years of experience in this world, I have only met one man, ONE, who was truly faithful to his wife.., he wound up divorcing after 5 years because he just couldn’t handle being with the same person anymore (he did the honorable, though sort of selfish thing and left her).
Ruff, many married couples maintain sexless marriages for a variety of reasons, economic, raising the offspring, companionship etc. Whether or not your friend did the "honorable" thing by bailing on his marriage is a topic for another thread.
For those of us who "cheat" with prostitutes, consider the fact that many of us, self included can maintain a sexless but otherwise satisfying marriage by the very fact that girls are available in C.R. for non-emotional sex play.
And I dare say this… just like we say once a working girl always a working girl, it works the same for many, if not all of us… Once a monger always a monger… or maybe more appropriate, once a monger, forever unfaithful. One would be hard pressed to live with and be true to that one and only piece of pu*sy for the rest of your life after having tasted the delicious fruit of a limitless variety of young, energetic, sensual women that, for the most part, would be way out of our league in the real world. Shit, I’m only 30 years old, and I find it so hard to feel attracted to women in my age group these days, AND THEY LOOK GOOD… Imagine when I’m 40, or 50… how about 60? How good will the women of my age group look to me when I know what awaits just a plane-ride away. In terms of ever having a healthy relationship here at home, mongering and Costa Rica (IMHO) is a very bad drug, and once spoiled to it, it makes it hard, if not impossible to start a healthy relationship with someone of my quote/unquote “appropriate age group.†And by healthy I also include the concept of being true and faithful to your gf/spouse.
Aside from your attribution of sexual/emotional fidelity to a "healthy" relationship, I agree with you. The psychological professionals, as you know would label you "hypersexual," and suggest that you have issues with intimacy, control, power and possibly a "salvation" complex, Ruff on his white steed, brandishing his mighty sword, saving the damsels.
Whether or not you feel this commerce is healthy for you is a very personal decision. As you know from your neuropsych cleasses, the human female has many more zones in her cerebrum that have to do with emotion. Love although probably love without true trust, can and will happen LTR between extranjeros and Latinas, and perhaps once the hormones and unfulfilled desires have gone away, they might be able to live together happily ever after.
I’ll be a little forthcoming here and disclose something very personal. Up until only 4 months ago, I was married. While married I delved a little in mongering while stationed in Europe, and the moment I did, I loved it! Next thing you know, I had flings and affairs, and always enjoyed the variety of being with more than just one woman. By the turn of last year, I discovered CR, which was just a 3 hour flight from me, and, well, that’s when I really got to liking the hobby. It got to me though, personally… I felt guilty of what I was doing, and it finally started showing in the bedroom. For some reason, I just couldn’t perform with the wife sexually, even though with ANY OTHER PERSON, I’d perform like the world-heavyweight champion of sex. By the end I couldn't even look her in the eyes... I couldn’t come clean with her, and I just couldn’t go on like this anymore. In all honesty I had lost all attraction for her. And trust me, she’s an easy 9.5 honey-bunny for her age, but damn, how can she compete to those 6 luscious 19-22 year olds I had on that last trip! It just wasn’t fair for her to be with a guy like me. And so, after much internal conflict, I wound up walking away from a 13 year relationship, with the sincere hopes that she will find a good man who will make her as happy as she deserves to be.
Ruff, I appreciate guilt. Without being too self-revelatory, I will admit that there have been times where my conscience or guilt got in the way of my enjoyment of a session.
Here's the first piece of armchair psychological advice you
'll get from me. Today is a new day, your marriage and 106 chicas are behind you, now decide what it is you really need, and then pursue it.
Because I know how I will feel if I try to start a real relationship with someone, I know that I am pretty ‘doomed’ to settle with someone who has had just as ‘adventurous’ of a past so that I won’t be judged when I come clean. If not, the guilt will eventually overcome me again and I will not consider myself worthy of this person’s love, and these feelings will manifest somehow or another and adversely affect the relationship. What a dilemma… What can I do now, either forever be single and survive off of meaningless encounters, both here in the USA with hootchies at the bar or in foreign countries with working kittens? I don’t know. And the older I get, the harder it will be to find that special someone with no serious baggage and/or who hasn’t been either divorced already or has Phuck-trophies of her own from another man.
And therein lies the problem. You know by now that you are both inherently polygamous while at the same time being riddled with guilt for your need for variety. You feel compelled to "come clean." Sometime, over Jaegerbombs or something you can tell me why. You were/are a player...perhaps the secret isn't in finding a woman with a wild past, but perhaps finding a woman equal to you in intellect, libido and health, regardless of her age or appearance. The psych pros would call that maturity.
But now I think I’m rambling so I will end this post. I guess all in all what I am saying is that, first of all, for those who are considering or have ever considered trying to make a relationship with a working girl, I say why the Phuck not. We are no better than them because of what we do compared to what they do. As a matter of fact, when it all weighs down, I think we are worse, and if anyone should worry about not fulfilling their end of the bargain in a relationship, I would think the girls should be more weary of us than vice versa, only because of where they met us. I personally would never go at a relationship with a working girl myself (never say never), but by all means, if it genuinely feels right, so be it. And for all those failed attempts in the past, it would be unfair to say it was ALWAYS THE GIRL'S FAULT. Once again, as men, we're no angels, and sometimes we ask for the girls to do bad shit with the bullshit we pull ourselves. I wouldn't be so quick to say that a relationship would fail strictly because of what the girl does for employment... it may just as easily be that the relationship may fail because you are a dog. We have no right to judge their past... not with such a promiscuous past of our own...
If we accept that all of us are imperfect beings, each with his/her own baggage, quirks and odious aspects, then anyone can become a couple. The secret here will be to enter the LTR with the (hopefully ex) working girl with eyes wide open, a headfull of honest self-knowledge, enough cash and a healthy heart.
Second of all, my thoughts lean towards a slight ‘monger’s remorse’ that has slowly but surely began to sink in. What does this say about me? How can I ever have a healthy monogamous relationship with someone of my age range after all the hedonism I’ve experienced in life? Am I destined to die alone now? Will I ever believe in or experience genuine love? I don’t know…
Don’t think I am looking for sympathy or pity. I really just wanted to throw my thoughts and feelings out on this, and hopefully read thoughts from others who have lived this and have maybe gone through similar phases. All thoughts and comments are welcome, even if it’s something along the lines of “Ruffnutz, you’re such a pu*sy…and you just need to get laid.â€
So be it. For the record, am I thinking of retiring my monger jersey?… Phuck NO…at least not yet. As a matter of fact, I’ll be in paradise in exactly 49 hours from now, and the debauchery intended for this trip will outdo all others, that I can guarantee…
Thanks for reading,
Ruff, I know that you played to win during your early September rut in San Jose. It's simple, man. It always has been. Forgive yourself as readily as you forgive others. Like yourself enough to joyfully accept the fact that you are in all respects, a true Sexy Bitch. And buy that Ozomatli record I told you about.
You're one hell of a wing, Ruffnutz.
Ruffnutz