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The CR is making an example of to make sure nobody does the things he has done again. That doesn't mean it is going to apply to the rest of us who do not do those things. But that seems to be the fear here.

Remember this guy was thrown out of the DR for basically the same thing. He made no secret about taking his game back to CR. You don't think that the CR government has been watching this guy? Since he made no secret about coming back to CR isn't it likely both those governments were in communication about him? He was a marked man. His arrest was coming one way or the other. Because neither country wants a guy like that. But that still doesn't apply to the rest of us.

As for the US media, people here are thinking of Cuba Dave as if he was OJ. If Cuba Dave was arrested for the crime that OJ was accused of, that would not have been the most publicized trial in history. Nobody would know who Kato Kalin is. Nobody would know who Judge Ito is. Nobody would be" Keeping Up With the Khardasians". Caitlyn would probably still be a man. Kanye would be married to Taylor Swift. Odom would be married to JLo. And the old lady would be working at the HDR. But OJ was somebody.

Back when a US Senator was caught with a girl from the DR that was news. But Cuba Dave is not a US Senator. These are the type of people that make news.

I am not saying that something can't happen to bring down the scene, but the arrest of Cuba Dave is not part of that. He is news to us only because we know the guy. The CR might not want guys like us, but more specifically they don't want guys like him and after the things he has done and said he stands alone.

I agree CD is has no name recognition outside of a few websites we all know and love; however, it not his name that has the potential to make his outcome a larger news story. It's his nationality! The headlines will be "An AMMERICAN CITIZEN was arrested and convicted ............" His name and past debatable celebrity status has nothing to do with it. This is a new and untested law the I guarantee you other countries like DR, Colombia, Brasil, etc. will be curiously awaiting the outcome. And if it is held up to be constitutional under CR law, with little or no response from the U.S. Gov't, then who knows where they'll look to apply it next. Authorities and politicians will feel imboldend at that point. And other countries may seek to adopt a similar law to keep in their back pockets for special occasions. Again CD is not the issue, this new and untested law is the main issue.

You've got it right GT...that is exactly why it is such a big deal...and not to be dismissed as a CD issue and the rest of the scene goes on its merry way.

Exactly, it isn't about CD per say, it's about the much bigger picture. Freedom of speech, the P4P scene in CR, "rich" gringos exploiting "innocent" young ladies forced into the business, etc. The news media sensationalizes everything, they make the news, not report it. Hopefully I'm completely wrong and the news media has absolutely no desire for a story with the above mentioned meat and that CD is quietly released with little fan fare. Hopefully, come November, he's given a fine, deported, and banned for life. Done and life goes back to normal.

You know, I remember watching one of CD youtube video's and I remember him describing one of the immigration "raids" or "checks" or whatever you want to call them. He actually was quite complimentary to the law enforcement, saying something to the effect of "cooperate, they really are there for your protection, they're there to check the girls, etc, etc. Don't worry, I've never been given trouble." How ironic is that at this point?

Calm down guys. You're acting as if all nations will rise up against the evil American tourist. Chill! This IS a CD issue. No one else acted like him, posting their face all over the place.

When you see the HDR shut down (because no locals use the place), then you will know it is about us. Until then, just don't post anything that makes CR look bad. We're still welcome there. They just want us to leave off the bragging.

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Why do you guys care about what the US news agencies publish? You know why you go to CR, and so do most of your family and friends. I have thought long and hard about how this affects me. I have yet to come up with anything worrisome. Let them say what they want to.

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I absolutely agree with you BD because this is totally a CD issue. American Citizen arrested for---is not news. This law has been if effect for a few years now. Now suddenly why did they pick on him. Because he went far and beyond the ordinary. He wore out his welcome. He did things the DR and CR authorities feared but hoped nobody would do.

They only way this could make a major story in the US is if CD gets a hold of a p.r. person who keeps on pushing it on the US media. CD would love that. He wants to be notorious. He thinks that would make him a folk hero. Just like he is a folk hero to people who would sit around him when he was holding court and thought he was helping them with his 2nd hand and often BS material, which often made up his web site. Remember this guy's hero is Che. Of course that is unlikely to happen since as far as we know he can't afford a lawyer never mind a p.r. person. Unless one of his dupes do it for free. But this whole thing right now is just about one person's arrest for abusing his privileges.

Really Lomo? You're so sure of that as you sound? Then, I guess this CD dude is quite the famous celebrity, to have a specific law enacted and enforced just to shut him down....hmmm, which one is it then, a looser, nobody seeking recognition and notoriety or celebrity having foreign governments go chase him around??

I'm still struggling to understand the "freedom of speech" argument and the so called "bigger picture".



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I am a little confused also, what part of the First Amendment (Free Speech) would apply in Costa Rica exactly ?!?!?!

Wait...you mean the rest of the world doesnt have to follow US law...shocking!!!

Doesn't concern me personally. But I imagine a major media outlet exposing the seedy side of CR could piss off certain authorities in the CR government and thus lead to a crack down. If anything, seems pride and perception of CR are very important to the powers there. Why else would they arrest a man who literally dedicates himself to the promoting the CR scene? They obviously seem to care deeply about the perception of CR. They're threatening a man with 4 years in prison or more for YouTube and Facebook posts?...yes I think a story done on CNN or whatever will get some panties in a wad down there. Anyway, not panicking here, just hoping it pans out well without a lot of collateral damage to fellow hobbyists and business owners. I'm certainly not canceling my trip.

Guys I think you are expecting this to make sense from our US laws and view point. This law makes just as much sense to us as the CR law of Slander having a penalty of up to 30 days in jail. In fact it seems to be an expansion of that legal theory regarding the slandering of the country of Costa Rica as a sexual tourism destination. Remember in Costa Rica it does not matter whether the slander is true or not. It's the action of "slandering" another by what you say and write.

It appears the CR govt has something in mind for which they are willing to fight. If they were not going to pursue the prosecution of Cuba Dave they could have just granted him a high bail at the most recent hearing and hoped that he skipped bail and escaped back to the US. Keeping him in jail for 60 days until Nov 11th hearing makes it look like they are taking his "slandering" of Costa Rica quite seriously.

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Yes, a major media outlet like AMCostaRica or Miami New Times.

Jeez.

I believe there have been dozens of gringos wrongfully (or rightfully) imprisoned, robbed, or killed in CR over the last 5 years. Do you see any major media outlets covering any of these cases? Do you really think a story about an imprisoned old whoremonger will sell any papers or increase hitcounts?

I personally know one guy who was held for almost 2 years in a CR jail without a trial. The only media attention he received during all that time was a short article in a Tico afternoon paper.

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Beats me, thankfully I'm not a journalist. I do remember seeing something on 20/20 or 60 minutes years ago about mongers in Thailand and the sex tourism exploiting the ladies. Complete with hidden cameras and gotcha interviews with people they got on camera. These same news outlets cover Bruce Jenner getting his C*ck cut off as a national event too. Just sayin' IF this got big exposure it would be bad. I don't know either way. You seem convinced it won't which is great. I hope you are right!