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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 11:29 am 
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we interviewed crugturd for a real job in the 80s ...incompetent idiotic dipshit...wholly suitable for the prolonged epileptic seizure known as the nobel commitee or the nyu rumprangeing mutual admiration society... :) ask any gang banger on the ny subway..hell tell you about ebonomics...."you make it ..we take it motherfucker" :lol: ...cumdrunk parasites detest reality..as long as someone pays for their moronic foray into an academic fudgepacking fest of utopian pacifism .. :lol:


Excellent post, and as the British would say...'spot on' :)


There simply is no arguing with remarks like "..hell tell you about ebonomics.... "you make it ..we take it motherfucker" :lol: ...cumdrunk parasites detest reality..as long as someone pays for their moronic foray into an academic fudgepacking fest of utopian pacifism .. :lol: :!:

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Steven, you make some good points about condos and the reserve funding. I am a resident in a rather large complex and if we fully funded our reserves my monthly assessment would rise some 30% per month. I do attend some meetings and am aware of my associations finances. Even with all of the foreclosure issues and regular repairs and improvements, my association has not had a special assessment. Our association has been able to transfer excess funds to reserve accounts. My bottom line is yes, do the research as no two associations are alike.
There is another area that needs to researched as well, it involves home many units are in foreclosure, have liens for non payment of fees and how much in fees is uncollected. Most of the time when the banks foreclose they don't pay the fees and the condo is limited in regards to how much may be recouped when the unit is sold, so all of us paying our bills every month have to subsidize the deadbeats and banks who hold the notes.

I have to take some exceptions to your statements about condos not planning or overstating the life expectancy of an asset. That exception lays in the fact that how many individual homeowners save money for long term repairs every month, my guess would be few, how many people who are landlords of single family homes place money aside for long term repairs, I would guess the answer is few as well.


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Steven1 has misread my post on Greengo. At no point did I call for banning or boycott, and I actually find him quaintly amusing. I was merely commenting on a particular post by that worthy if unpaying member. If someone can read and understand the complex writing of Mearsheimer or Thomas Piketty, assuredly my paltry words should pose no challenge.

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Irrespective, there can be no "positive" without a "negative".

This is true in science but what's the negative on Jesus the Christ (this question from an atheist, with no vested interest in the answer)? And were he still alive, would he buy a condo in Miami (the original thesis of the OP, lest we forget)? This should be easy to answer--don't strain the membrane.

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I have to take some exceptions to your statements about condos not planning or overstating the life expectancy of an asset. That exception lays in the fact that how many individual homeowners save money for long term repairs every month, my guess would be few, how many people who are landlords of single family homes place money aside for long term repairs, I would guess the answer is few as well.


Point well taken and endemic. However, I know I keep money set aside for long term stuff as well as unexpected stuff. Heck, I have to set aside $X per month to ease the pain of property tax which comes due 2x per year. That's for me, myself, and I.

When one buys into a condo in a state which does not mandate reserve studies and reserve funds, one is purchasing a pig a poke and you underscore this reality by throwing out one of the other aspects of condo living: What are the other "co-owners" doing relative to their owed fees and just how solvent is the entire project? Those with an abundance of foreclosed, dues in arrears, etc., etc., etc. compels one to think quite carefully about purchasing a "condo". If the reserve study AND reserve fund are started from the beginning, one does not confront the 30% increase written about.

Case in point: I purchased a condo apartment on Maui which had an operating fund and a "sinking fund" (whatever the hey that is....still don't know....). Now all of this was done before I got smart law wise about the places are run. The monthly fee was like low. However, after purchase and going through the reams of documents and demanding from the "professionally managed management" full financial disclosure, I learned. Got on the Board; did what I do best; and the fee went up 110%@ month to get that reserve fund in order. OUCH!!! Shot myself in the foot. Ah Ha.....not really.....because 3 years later, the ac for the two buildings went tits up (and the roof suffered hurricane damage requiring repair). No special assessment, however, because there was sufficient monies in the reserve fund to replace both. Not repair. Replace. The "surcharge" which had been added to the monthly fee was gradually reduced as we got to 100% funding of the reserve fund.

What is funny about condo living, from my experience, was the obscene arguments you'd get from duffus owners: "I never turn on my a/c. I should pay less each month." My reply: "I never use that elevator that goes up all of three stories (where that person lived), so you pay less because you live on the mountain side of the building with tons of shade where I live on the sea side and get plenty of sun and I'll pay less because I don't use the elevator. Come to think about it, I don't use the swimming pool, so I'm not paying for that. Wait. I only require one covered parking garage spot, so I'm not paying for the 2nd one that is deeded with my unit." Etc. The person shut up.

The Bro is being disingenuous--he knows very well what a "sinking fund" is, what "common charges" are and that Hawai'i gets typhoons, not hurricanes *. And though he didn't make the point well (actually not at all), an SFR owner where the owner owns the land, more often than not even in these parlous times, can re-fi the dwelling to meet any major charges. A point is more readily made and understood if the language is tightened up--"Words have meaning and language shapes thinking", saith that great metalinguist George Santayana. An Loc seems to have taken an eggbeater to his thought process. Damned shame, that. Lastly, it's usually spelled "doofus", not "duffus", as SpellCheck avers.






* Yes, I know Hawai'i gets hurricanes--The Pacific Hurricane Center is there. Just wanted to see if you were paying attention.

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Thanks to everyone for all the great info. Netgems and Steven1 have especially opened my eyes with their excellent detailed reports. I am very familiar with the condo/rental industry which was my bread and butter until I had enough saved to get into the construction business.

Your information reaffirms my decision to hire a good lawyer who is familiar with the Miami market and its particular condo laws. In my experience the condo board is usually the difference between a good and bad experience.

On an unrelated side note, I won't be making any financial decisions in my life based on the opinion of Paul Krugman or any other University professor. :P

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Jesus Christ smited and smoted left and right. Negative behavior.

Shoo fly.

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Irrespective, there can be no "positive" without a "negative".

This is true in science but what's the negative on Jesus the Christ (this question from an atheist, with no vested interest in the answer)? And were he still alive, would he buy a condo in Miami (the original thesis of the OP, lest we forget)? This should be easy to answer--don't strain the membrane.

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Thanks for keeping it real, Devo, and staying the course. Bluntly, I believe you have made a wise decision, but be careful of inflated lawyer costs. It doesn't take a genius to figure this condo stuff out ONCE one acquires the necessary paper work (Home Owners By-Laws being the VERY FIRST piece of paper you seek out....next reserve study; budget (which includes those condo owners who are arrears in their monthly fees; etc.)

Good Luck! Wish it were me confronting this, too!

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Thanks to everyone for all the great info. Netgems and Steven1 have especially opened my eyes with their excellent detailed reports. I am very familiar with the condo/rental industry which was my bread and butter until I had enough saved to get into the construction business.

Your information reaffirms my decision to hire a good lawyer who is familiar with the Miami market and its particular condo laws. In my experience the condo board is usually the difference between a good and bad experience.

On an unrelated side note, I won't be making any financial decisions in my life based on the opinion of Paul Krugman or any other University professor. :P

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Jesus Christ smited and smoted left and right. Negative behavior.

Shoo fly. << begs for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwOQKH5klFc >>

He was also several other varieties of "bad boy", with numerous breakings of Rabbinical and civil law--glad you brought this up. He also didn't condemn slavery. The absence of a positive is not a negative--it exists in and of itself. One can be imperfect without being, er, positively negative. Now we need the Parsing Parsons to chime in.

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All other BS aside the State of Hawaii does get hurricanes and Kauai has been hit by a couple in the past 30 years. Typhoons may hit there also, don't know on that one, but did live there and experienced several hurricanes being in the immediate area! Now back to the condo buying!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:17 am 
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My vote is not to buy the condo.

Agreed...and my reasoning is this: rental/lease prices are still in many cases 10% below the equivalent cost of owning. Not universally true but look at the sacrifices, the necessary compromises made, the flexibility lost in owning. Is there a midway point available? Maybe owning a small condo in a popular place, giving you all entree to a selection of tempos suited to you and your compadres (I'm big on keeping the peace with even an extended family w/o selling out)? There has to be 1 or more such agencies that are honest.
NOTE: I'm not posing as a Sage--just presenting a POV.


I agree too.I rent my condo in Palm Beach co-Boca Raton,was told the rent i paid-600 breaks even on all expenses and he mentions he don,t have a mortgage!


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Just wondering, how much is a 2-3 bedroom condo rental in MIA/FLL in terms of basic, mid, and luxury? Rentals in NY (Brooklyn), one floor of a house, go for 1000-1500. $600 sounds like a hell of a deal!


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The statistic that's been developed and used to rank rental housing markets is the Fair Market Rent (FMR), which goes area by area. Add up the price of all the rentals available in an area and divide by the number of units available. Average time on the market per unit may be a factor--I don't know. I also don't know if or how much affordablity plays a factor. Anyway as this chart shows, Miami is 36th and NYC is 8th. This is only a rough guide--you may well sneer at most of what's for rent in one area and be happy with what's mostly out there in another. http://www.nhc.org/media/files/Rankings_Rental_2013.pdf
This post is only a place to start the convo--some Bros can probably be of more help. One thing I did get was checking Craig'sList one area vs. another can be a help (sheer volume of their listings--and landlords are advised to use it to set prices).

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Hioctane wrote:
Just wondering, how much is a 2-3 bedroom condo rental in MIA/FLL in terms of basic, mid, and luxury? Rentals in NY (Brooklyn), one floor of a house, go for 1000-1500. $600 sounds like a hell of a deal!


I did look into Broward market since my lease expires in Nov and the owner lives in it during the winter and i found 1-2 bedrooms in the range of 700-800-a little higher than palm beach.I must also mentionto keep rent lower i look for the 55 and older condos-they seam to be lower rent,however most of condo,s policies are 1 person only has to be 55


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