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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:58 am 
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Being a man there is no way I could teach my daughters what it means to be a woman.

My job as a male (father), for my daughters, was to present the best possible male role model that I could. After the failure of my marriage, I chose not to date for 10 years so I would not be bringing women through their lives, and they would not feel that my love was divided. Did it work, who knows, but I feel good for having done it?

Once the girls were raised, I have very little influence on how they react to the scenarios that will unfold in their lives. Once I let go of attempting to control their lives as adults, there was much less stress in my life.

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D2864, you have gotten a lot of attention on this topic. Maybe that was your goal.

I think it is pretty ridiculous and possibly even rude to go to a Mongering forum and push religion based thoughts, morals and judgments.

Obviously if guys are here, they have already worked through these ideas and questions. To me, what your doing is a buzz kill.

It would be about as proper to go into a church and bring up the subject of a Swinger's Club.

Or going to a cigar smoker's group and asking questions about lung cancer.

Or catch a group of skydivers just before a jump and remind them of the guys that died enjoying this sport.

And for what it's worth not all these girls are poor victims that hate their life. If thats your impression about all working girls , then that says more about you then them.

In the US , CR, Germany and other places some girls "work" to put themselves through school. If they decide they want to quit school, then so be it.

Not all working girl "live" at the local pick up bar. Each makes a choice.
Some pop in , do their thing , and get out.

As far as them not "loving" the work. Who says everyone has to love their work ?

I cant imagine toll booth workers loving inhaling fumes all day.

And if a girl I cared about had the choice between working in a toll booth or having a little sex, I would let her decide. But I wouldn't judge.


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For those of you who find THIS discussion not to your liking WHY IN THE HELL ARE YOU READING AND POSTING IN THIS THREAD?

The clear desire to censor the theme or ideas and opinions that are raised here make me want to gag.

It is laughable beyond measure for those to proclaim they should and many time have the freedom to do whatever they want... when they want to and no one should tell them otherwise, yet in almost the same breath call for censorship.

Change the phuckin' channel so to speak if this isn't to one's liking. Geeeez. :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:21 pm 
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D2864 wrote:
I've been wondering lately. I've thought about this before, but never posted.

Many on here trash gringas to the Nth degree saying that they weld too much power.

If you have a daughter or if you had a daughter.....

we mongers like weak women who can't call the shots. would you do all that you could to make your daughter powerful so that she would at least have an equal voice? HELL YES!

we mongers speak of controlling our novias abroad, let them know who's boss, she'll respect you and behave. would you want your daughter to be independent enough to tell a controlling man to go get phucked? HELL YES and in a heartbeat

we mongers complain about how difficult it is to get a gringa to put out. we wish they were more like the foreign babes that drop to their knees in a heartbeat, because, you know, foreign chicks don't think sex is dirty. would you want your daughter to put out easily... buy her dinner and off to the bed with your daughter? (i know, if she is of age, it is her business, but that isn't my question, would you want her being an easy lay is the question). HELL NO!

we mongers like them young. would you want your daughter dating a man who is much older than her? would you be concerned about the guys she dates? would you want an upstanding man for her or would just any old man do for your daughter? HELL NO, YES, AND UPSTANDING!

would you want your daughter to trade places with any of the honeys we tap abroad? HELLLLL NO!

I hold no ill feelings toward gringas, because I know that if I had a daughter, I'd want her to be the most powerful woman on this earth. I can't see cheering for 1 (my daughter) and wanting the rest to be weak pitiful souls.

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Santas Bro indirectly brings up a side point of if you should be mongering at all if you have a non mature daughter. I was kind of thinking this the whole time. You have a responsibility (financially and developmentally) to your daughter.

We all know there are serious health risks involved in mongering. I would suggest thinking about this for awhile. **Also, please take note I am not telling you what to do but suggesting.

Even when she does become a mature adult; unlike BangBang, I would not like for her to know about my mongering. It would serve no purpose besides to alter her view of me and potentially men in general. **Yes; to everyone, it is hypocritical.

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I think it is pretty ridiculous and possibly even rude to go to a Mongering forum and push religion based thoughts, morals and judgments.


Tell me where I was pushing religion based thoughts, morals and judgments. You continue to want to venture off topic, why?

See Berk's answers to my very simple questions. Notice how easy it was for Berk to answer? Simple, an elementary school student could do it, but only one person gave it a try without a speech of which most of the time was off topic. Some here immediately start defending mongering, but why defend mongering when I've already said "I'm a monger purely for the cheap sex and a good time." Does that sound like I'm against mongering?

Please don't try to widen the scope thus only confusing what are some very simple questions.


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D2864 wrote:
Icantstayaway wrote:
I think it is pretty ridiculous and possibly even rude to go to a Mongering forum and push religion based thoughts, morals and judgments.


Tell me where I was pushing religion based thoughts, morals and judgments. You continue to want to venture off topic, why?...

Please don't try to widen the scope thus only confusing what are some very simple questions.


I'll point out where you pushed religion... just a sec... ok.... I have about found it.... hummmm, let's see...YOU DID NOT! It's nowhere to be found. "Icant's" and "FFF's" statements are all based on emotion. That's to be expected with these kinds of discussions... they require intellectual honesty which can be hard to come by with issues that are this emotionally charged.

A long time Colombian amiga told me a while back... "This life is no good" and she makes a killing... still it is not a good life. We all know $$$ buys only short-term happiness. These kinds of discussions force the reader to evaluate their participation in promoting a cycle that keeps the chicas coming back to the P4P scene. Not a one of us would want our ninas to be a hooker, yet many have little difficulty in staying away from P4P. I go back. Do these issues cross my mind from time to time? Sure. I find a way to rationalize it though.


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Even when she does become a mature adult; unlike BangBang, I would not like for her to know about my mongering. It would serve no purpose besides to alter her view of me and potentially men in general. **Yes; to everyone, it is hypocritical.

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No where did I say that my daughter knew about my mongering. She does know that I do live in Costa Rica, that I date a lot of chicas much younger than me,(even much younger than her), and (by implication) that I do have sex with at least some of these chicas. WOW!! I am a single male. Should I try to convince my daughter I am celebrate; I think not!! Does she know that I "date" putas? She may think it because she does know of the sex tourist industry in CR, and she has questioned why chicas soooo young would want to date a guy my age; but we do not discuss it. Is it really any of her business who I date? NO! Is it something I feel compelled to discuss with her? NO! Is it something that I want her to know? NOT REALLY! Would I lie to her if she asked? NO!!!!! and hopefully she will never ask!!

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BangBang57 wrote:
No where did I say that my daughter knew about my mongering. ...


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Do I worry about what she would think Of "dear old dad" plucking young putas? She knows I pluck young chicas all the time and does not like it--so what?? It is my life. And at 66, I think I have earned the right to do what I damn well please


Clearly implied by your statement or at least to me.

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My sincere apology BangBang. The way I read it is what Berk pointed out. Because we are not all writers, what we type and how it is interpreted/read should be given leeway/understanding.

Upon further reading I can see the difference being used between Puta and Chica. So you can understand how we were reading it, Putas are Chicas . . . though not all Chicas are Putas. So the slight changing of the words between the sentences with out further definition made me believe you were refering to the same ladies.

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Thanks Complex09!! As you said there is a lot of difference between the 2 words "putas" and "chicas". And yes, putas in Costa Rica are chicas but as you point out,"all chicas are not putas" except maybe in the eyes of Berkette :? :? :oops: But then he can never even see the difference in "black" and "white". Why should anyone expect different of him now :roll: :? :wink:

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Thanks Complex09!! As you said there is a lot of difference between the 2 words "putas" and "chicas". And yes, putas in Costa Rica are chicas but as you point out,"all chicas are not putas" except maybe in the eyes of Berkette :? :? :oops: But then he can never even see the difference in "black" and "white". Why should anyone expect different of him now :roll: :? :wink:


Why not just attack ideas and leave the people alone?

This forum would be so so so much better if the personal attacks would end.

This would have achieved the same goal:

Thanks Complex09!! As you said there is a lot of difference between the 2 words "putas" and "chicas". And yes, putas in Costa Rica are chicas but as you point out,"all chicas are not putas."


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I have found it very easy to love the Gringas that are related to me and shun the rest. They simply aren't a good match for someone like me.
Guys that don't travel abroad for women will just have to tolerate Gringas. The dude that is marrying my daughter next month is the typical gringo. She is about to become HIS problem.

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BangBang57 wrote:
Thanks Complex09!! As you said there is a lot of difference between the 2 words "putas" and "chicas". And yes, putas in Costa Rica are chicas but as you point out,"all chicas are not putas" except maybe in the eyes of Berkette :? :? :oops: But then he can never even see the difference in "black" and "white". Why should anyone expect different of him now :roll: :? :wink:


Your failure to effectively communicate is your problem and not mine.
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Do I worry about what she would think Of "dear old dad" plucking young putas? She knows I pluck young chicas all the time and does not like it--so what??...
You asked a question and then followed with the answer in the form of a rhetorical question. Both statements are clearly linked together. The fact that you changed puta to chica has no bearing considering all putas are chicas unless, of course, one is into "man-whores". If you made a mistake... fine. Clear it up. To run your mouth adds nothing to the discussion. :idea:

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