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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:21 pm 
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Out of respect for the fine gentlemen on this board, not necessarily to offer fodder for the twistings and turnings of Loco Poco, though I am sure it is coming. :lol:

Vegas Bob, at least on first hearing, she does not appear to be real interested in your generious offer of lucrative employment. "Mucho gracias" was all she said to that, no mention of who?, where?, when? Then went back to the urgency of the $100, "ci o no." And she got her answer from me, "no." Told her that I have a medical condition (she knew this already), that my days could be numbered, and need all reserves for potential medical procedures. A white lie actually as in $100 would not break me either way.

Keep this in mind too gentleman. The money may be ear marked for non-essentials. She claimed to have had a straight job that was at least keeping the rent paid. And it is possible that, in her short stint as a "puta" (assuming my intuition is correct) she got more than one e-mail address and is trying to load up a bank roll. So I say, thanks to Vegas Bob, the word should be buyer beware, eg. "scam or not." Unless you are a man of real means and solid health, perhaps someone like Depanz1, that can feed them from afar, make frequent visits to keep in touch, a little harem of sorts. Elevate their lifestyle, keep them capable of sticking to cien at the Del Rey. Whatever the case may be.


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Vegas Bob, at least on first hearing, she does not appear to be real interested in your generious offer of lucrative employment. "Mucho gracias" was all she said to that, no mention of who?, where?, when? Then went back to the urgency of the $100, "ci o no."


Sorry to say that the second hearing, the third hearing, etc are not going to enlist any interest in that employment opportunity. :shock:

Face the facts amigo, she has taken "Squeeze the Gringo 101" :wink: and has most likely used it before with some success. :P

PS: any further info on the condition of her sick doggie? :roll:

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PS: any further info on the condition of her sick doggie? :roll:


Yo Dong, perhaps I could spring for $5 for a tapeworm shot as I am sure the national health service does not cover animals. But hardly worth it to send WU. Hopefully the perro can live a couple of weeks for the snail mail to arrive. :)


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Let me put on my "hard ass" hat for a minute:

WHY DO SOME GUYS FEEL COMPELLED TO GIVE THEIR EMAIL OR PHONE NUMBERS TO THESE GIRLS? Can they not live without keeping in touch with someone they just had a sexual business transaction with?

Well, sure, you had a great time. THAT'S HER JOB! Maybe it was "real" but let me give you a little tip. If it was "REAL" she wouldn't be asking for money.

If you want to keep in touch with her get HER number and call her when you get back into town.

Sure they need the money. EVERYBODY needs money, especially a girl who doesn't have a job and has a K*D or two. Add in rent and a sick family member and you'll never hear the end of it.

You can't help them all so if you feel the need to help one find one who will be worth it.

If you're looking for love, LOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE! There are any number of introduction services on the internet and oodles of women in Latin America who would love to meet a nice gringo, and they AREN'T SELLING THEIR BODIES!

Ok, I'll go away now.

Witling nailed it... I've been there and I think it's the best advice you can get Don't fall in love , even better just DON"T GET INVOLVED in their lives 8) :!: Would you get involvd with a chick like that in your own home town? :?:

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Hopefully the perro can live a couple of weeks for the snail mail to arrive.


Oh man thats cold :P

Think you should WU the money tonight. She may be playing the gringo :shock:
but the pero is the innocent victim. :wink: Give a Little and save a life, do it as a humanitarian
gesture show the ticos we gringos have a heart. :lol:

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Unless you are a man of real means and solid health, perhaps someone like Depanz1, that can feed them from afar, make frequent visits to keep in touch, a little harem of sorts. Elevate their lifestyle, keep them capable of sticking to cien at the Del Rey. Whatever the case may be.


Damn, not sure what to say about that. Not sure if I'm being complimented or slammed. I'm thinking the latter. Just for the record, she is probably lookin' for another sugar daddy about now so, step on up.

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WHY DO SOME GUYS FEEL COMPELLED TO GIVE THEIR EMAIL OR PHONE NUMBERS TO THESE GIRLS?
In my case because I'm an IDIOT! Hopefully, I learned my lesson and it won't happen again.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:22 am 
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Unless you are a man of real means and solid health, perhaps someone like Depanz1, that can feed them from afar, make frequent visits to keep in touch, a little harem of sorts. Elevate their lifestyle, keep them capable of sticking to cien at the Del Rey. Whatever the case may be.


Damn, not sure what to say about that. Not sure if I'm being complimented or slammed. I'm thinking the latter. Just for the record, she is probably lookin' for another sugar daddy about now so, step on up.

dapanz1


It is neutral. Just an observation on who may do well for themselves sending Western Unions. You may or may not be a case, key word, "perhaps."

Also, anyone who still wants me to send the money to this perfectly healthy girl after hearing of her reaction to Mente`s written offer of employment, then PM me for my address, send me a check for $100 and I will readily forward the funds WU... :wink:


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I`ll put the period on this thread for myself. Had to re-register though, my cookies got cleared and the e-mail I used 2 years ago no longer exists.

She wrote me back again and said it was okay if I did not want to send the c note. All the kidding around aside, I am going to send it if I hear back again, said I would and will. Only because this girl was the one of many that gave me the time of my life. Probably will never see her again. Am too ill right now (may be for some time) to go to Costa Rica even if I wanted to. But with all the selfishness I see in this world I am going to do something unselfish even if it is wrong. To hell with it.

And by the way, I found the Flander thread on the main page for the first time. I remember his posts. What many of you wrote touched me, showed your humanity, and that this board for many of you seems as much about fellowship as it is about meeting chicas for hire. 7 lone trips and I think I may have missed something... Peace to you all. I will be around. :)


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:32 pm 
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Well I said I put a period on this thread but, at the same time, I promised updates. You were right! Only took her 6 days to ask for another $100. :roll: Says the first $100 went for food even though it was supposed to be for her rent. Claims she is kicked out of her apartment and needs it for a month`s rent at a dive hotel. No way Jose was the answer, in no uncertain terms. I cannot support this girl and her K*ds in C.R. Bet most on this board could not either. We are not all rich, is expensive living in America. Yea I was eager to do a good deed but am thinking I might have done better giving the $115 to a guy holding a "will work for food" sign. And I do sometimes wonder, do these girls really need to sell theirselves? Or is their work there, enough to sustain their necessities? I have always wondered...


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Sorry to hear that you gave in to the obvious scam that she pulled on you.Her second attempt was certainly no surprize. The scam chicas (which is most of them if given a chance) will always return to the scene of the crime for more action. They just have to remember which letter to write...the initial one or the follow-up to the suckers who sent the first time. They are very similar to the beggars and husplers outside the DR.If you give to one of them just once,they will all torture you forever. Take care of you health and don't let the stress of this mala chica get to you.
Also I think it would be funny if you told her that you have a new Novia,and SHE took the job at the Dept store and loves it.


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Some random thoughts, without reading back to earlier pages (did I say this already?) --

Witling did nail it -- wait till you get back in-country, and then give each other your best (lovin'/cash). If it was so great before, it'll be great again. We're so used to gringa guilt-tripping here, especially over money, I think we extend our vulnerability to CR, where we go to get away from female head games!

Life is hard -- everywhere -- and you're not going to "rescue" people from very much of their hard reality, certainly not from thousands of miles away. See Julia Roberts/Richard Gere's "Pretty Woman" again for some of the intricacies of this fairy-tale syndrome.

And the semi-pro's classic whine about "not wanting to do this anymore". Hmmm... she enjoyed it quite well with you; why are you so special that she can't enjoy it just as much with another? I know of plenty locally who seem to enjoy this career overall. If you've got to work for a living, this beats lots of jobs. And who wouldn't just love to have money sent to them without working for it? I'll bet this whine has been around since the beginning of the oldest profession. "Take me away from all this..."

You're just putting the cash forward as a lottery ticket -- hopefully cheap enough -- that "this one is different" and you "really are special" to her. It's a roll of the dice, isn't it? Never say "never", but I think the brotherly advice here is heroic in trying to remind us to keep our hearts at some distance from such a gamble. Play it if you want to, but remember the odds, and keep an eye on the exits.

Don't try to suss out sincerity via e-mails; do it face-to-face, over time, like in regular life. Instant trust? No such thing.


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You know, it really hurts to hear these stories. I am a softy at heart, and I've been lucky that no one has ever approached me for money yet...well, one did...

Ade*, one of my fav's called me once here in the states and asked for "a favor", I said, "Does it involve money?" She said yes, and I said, "Well, you can rest assured that the answer will be NO... so what's the favor?" She changed the subject immediately.

But back to this. The stories hurt, but the outcomes have been the same and we should all know better after reading this same account again and again... And express, this does not apply to you, I hold you in high respects without even knowing who you are... I'm a softy for a sad story and would have been wanting to help someone out myself.

But the thread always goes something like this...

A CRT guy is given a tale of hard times by a chica who has somehow really made an impression with him, be it by mind-blowing sex, some kind of emotional connection, etc.

Chica asks for money to help with said hard times.

CRT guy is torn, so he asks the forum what to do.

CRT members tell him in so many ways, "You shouldn't do it." But CRT guy just gives excuses and justifications on how THIS SITUATION is different from all others. This is not what he wants to hear. With all the intel out on the board regarding this subject, I'm surprised anyone would even ask for advice on this in the first place, but bygones... the end result is that any advice to NOT send money is either ignored altogether or responded with a defensive or excusatory post. Regardless of how many people respond to say that "I've heard this exact tune before, don't do it," all this CRT guys is waiting for is that one reassuring post that says 'It's ok...', the one to reinforce the decision he has long ago already made, but for some reason needs that comforting support from someone else.

Finally, there's that one person who finally says, "What the heck... Go ahead and send the money." Of all the advice given, this is the ONE recommendation CRT guy gladly clings on to and embraces.

Some see the light before sending the money, but most don't, and though it may take a week, or 2 years to figure out, the end-result is the same.... disappointment. I'm sure that those who have gone down this road can attest that this is the inevitable result, one way or another.

So... my point in all this?? Well, I'm not to say that I am immune to this kind of thing, as I said, I am very much a softy, and the power of pu*sy is strong over me... but I hope that those that have been around long enough, or have read enough of these awfully and painfully similar threads can take heart to what they read and maybe be less susceptible to being targeted for this. It doesn't matter if it's a prostitute or a church-going virgin who disappoints a man, heartbreak and/or disappointment still hurts all the same, and as we peel off the macho fascade and accept that our hearts do feel strong and real emotions so long as we breathe the air of life, we can try to protect ourselves as well as possible when playing this game we call "Mongering" or whatever others decide to call it.

Thanks for listening,

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We're so used to gringa guilt-tripping here, especially over money, I think we extend our vulnerability to CR, where we go to get away from female head games!


This I have found to be all too true. We are products of conditioning & our conditioning is all screwed up in my opinion in the US. I believe American men to be the most vulnerable kind hearted souls on the planet & they see softies’ cumming a mile away. Ever wonder why they seem to like Gringos above all other men? One thing to help, another to be used & abused. Remember it is a mans world outside the US & you are in pretty much total control as long as you are holding your trump card in your hand (your money). Play it well & don't let them take control by taking your money first.

Sending money to chicas contributes to bad habits & makes a typical lazy person even lazier plus you take away their survival skills that they have learned. You may hurt them more than help, let them find their own way like I had too it will mean more in the end. Many of these Latinas wonder what we are trying to save them from as they enjoy us all including TOM, DICKK & HAIRY!

Here is what several Chicas ask me to do on my last trip.

1. Would you translate all these phone messages from these Gringos on my cell phone. Boy she didn't have to ask twice this was almost as good as the sex with her. I couldn't believe my ears. No less than 5 different Gringo voices, all drunk, all saying they loved her blah,blah,blah. What a joke & I just finished with her & she is giving me her phone # & I didn't even ask for it?? I feel sorry for these guys as they have to be lonely lost souls & I wish them well & good luck they will need it!!

2. Would you sit down with me & help me understand & translate these emails? I am thinking why not these ought to be entertaining & sure enough it was!! She was leaving with me for the evening as was arranged the night before but she had been busy sending out the standard Chica in distress letters to many different players. One bit & she was happy. Her letter said that these men stole everything in her house & got her sons Playstation 2 & her son was crying & crying but don't worry if you can help I won't have to go back to being a sex machine and all the time she is laughing as she is leaving with me. I told her you are terrible but great in bed & away we went. She is allot of fun & She plans to see me next time. Will I send her money? GET REAL I have her email & phone # she is not going to have a contact point back to me. I will call when the need arises.

Sending money to a Chica usually ends up as a big embarrassment to yourself more than a financial set back. I would just be disappointed with myself to know a chica scammed me (many with little education) & I wasn't smart enough or so soft to let it happen. In theory I comment these guys for being so kind but in reality I laugh & think what an insecure fool. Many men may just do it for themselves which is great as they want to be a do gooder but remember you may not be helping as much as you think or maybe helping some other guy in the background. One thing for sure they survived before they knew you & they will be just fine without you trust me on this one. Many Latinas I talked with had 3 & 4 little ones with different fathers & never been married. Now how do you even begin to rescue that, they don’t seem to worried about themselves obvious? These Latinas that live in CR aren’t about to starve, bananas grow in their backyard so remember this as they break their violin strings in your ear!

Throwing money at poverty doesn’t fix it just look at the US. Most of the time you just creat dependancy! If you want to help like I have wanted to help some teach them how to help themselves then odds are you will even be more frustrated is what I have found because the ones I tried to teach didn't like this idea as much as reverting back to what they do best. Believe me these are pretty lazy people. I have found much more depth, character, strength, drive, pride, will & intelligence in the Colombianas! Well all these good qualities do come with a price YMMV!

I will get off my box now, just don’t like what I see with many men being used. Many of us have been used & abused by Gringas why go back for a repeat performance?

Zippy


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Great posts Ruffnutz & Zippy...
Ruffnutz wrote:
Finally, there's that one person who finally says, "What the heck... Go ahead and send the money." Of all the advice given, this is the ONE recommendation CRT guy gladly clings on to and embraces.
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Anyway I say (bet your surprised) send the money!
Gee anyone should know better than to listen to a smartass like me. :lol:

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