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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:29 pm 
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aww, he's wrong all of the time. Issue is, so is the world ... so they tend to cancel each other out! :mrgreen:

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Price is determine by supply and demand. If the girl is hot, the demand will be higher and she'll charge more relative to other girls of lesser stature.

just wanted to comment on this idea. I find it to be untrue, because I have never been with a group of mongers at HDR that could agree on just who's hot and who ain't.
Oh sure, there are some real dogs in the bunch, but once you categorize down to an 80/20, there is no concensus on who should charge higher.
In effect, TEHO & YMWV are the driving factors behind the mythical 'demand' side of the equation.

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Price is determine by supply and demand. If the girl is hot, the demand will be higher and she'll charge more relative to other girls of lesser stature. If it's a "slow night" then the relative prices for everyone will drop, but the hot ones can still command more than the average.




Ahhh..well said. Oddly enough this %100 applies to the men/customer as well..but mongers would (never) know that..

You have the right idea..go after the human nature element..I see ur new around here so let me tell u not to waste ur time pushing that angle…these guys that are about the dollars and cents…psssh, that argument isn't even there…trust.

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Be certain to heed the advice of non-monger Cujo's: A CRT member of members (with a 60 second hair pull trigger member....): He has taught the entire CRT message board one need not pay money at all provided one has game and is a MackDaddy! He is sexy and he knows it.....in fact a song was written about the CRT MasterMonger with GAME....Cujo's. Take a listen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMH1zG9YTWE (deal with the short advert) or an alternative mix/cover was done by Jimmy Fallon and can be reviewed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Ncuu8MfBk and even here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsvlsuLau5c

Cujo's.....my hero to scoring that $50 love affair wherein at the close of business I stiff the twat, knowing she was lucky to be with me.....MackDaddy MasterMonger who don't pay because he's sexy and he bees knowin' it. I work out. 8) :lol: :P

I mean, all hail master non-monger Cujo's. He gets it for no cost. He works out. *shrug* He's sexy and he knows it :!: :!: :!: :P

PS: One significant aspect of having game in CR is that one speaka de Espanole per the sage Wisdom of MasterMonger Cujo's. :!: :!: :P
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Ahhh..well said. Oddly enough this %100 applies to the men/customer as well..but mongers would (never) know that..

You have the right idea..go after the human nature element..I see ur new around here so let me tell u not to waste ur time pushing that angle…these guys that are about the dollars and cents…psssh, that argument isn't even there…trust.

Welcome to the board.. 8)

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Sheesh…talk about out there..relax, I'm sure one of these trips you'll get a chica to kiss u.. :?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:15 pm 
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Sheesh…talk about out there..relax, I'm sure one of these trips you'll get a chica to kiss u.. :? Cujo


Ignorant. That's the more appropriate word for such a remark. Can you help the entire message board understand why you're so ******PERSONAL ATTACK PROHIBITED BY FORUM POLICY**********************, Cujo's? Arrogance and stupidity do not count as a response, by the way. Please include why you chose to have a bastard offspring; provided minimal Ch*ld support to same (in the USA) and dare to suggest you're the MackDaddy of all of pimpdom? Poor son/daughter of the "I don't wrap the rascal..." not having a daddy around for ever and a day and having the same dolt "celebrate" on an internet message board his delight once said bastard turned 18 and the support ended. That's my kind of man. NOT. (Working out and being sexy are incorrect responses; same with speaking Espanolee).

Basically, it's just time for you to graduate to the MackDaddy Player's site (wherever that is) and spout your ******PERSONAL ATTACK PROHIBITED BY FORUM POLICY**********************there, please. Too, when you're beyond the status of ******PERSONAL ATTACK PROHIBITED BY FORUM POLICY********************** in the way of the ducats; beyond living at home with Mommy; etc. let this message board know, please. You might gain a bit of respect then. Second thought.....nahhhhh.....that ain't gonna happen. Wannabees exist everywhere. How does one write that in Espanolee? :?: :idea: :P :arrow:

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Ignorant. That's the more appropriate word for such a remark. Can you help the entire message board understand why you're so ignorant, Cujo's? Arrogance and stupidity do not count as a response, by the way. Please include why you chose to have a bastard offspring; provided minimal Ch*ld support to same (in the USA) and dare to suggest you're the MackDaddy of all of pimpdom? Poor son/daughter of the "I don't wrap the rascal..." not having a daddy around for ever and a day and having the same dolt "celebrate" on an internet message board his delight once said bastard turned 18 and the support ended. That's my kind of man. NOT. (Working out and being sexy are incorrect responses; same with speaking Espanolee).

...and exactly what does this have to do with paying the chicas in colones & saving 10%??? Talk about hi-jacking a thread! :roll:

Steven1, It's obvious that you have a hard-on for Cujo's, but attacking a man's personal life?? Really?? Sorry my friend, but that's simply crossing the line!

To The Admin - I certainly hope you will address this issue... :idea:

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Cujo's wrote:
Ahhh..well said. Oddly enough this %100 applies to the men/customer as well..but mongers would (never) know that..

You have the right idea..go after the human nature element..I see ur new around here so let me tell u not to waste ur time pushing that angle…these guys that are about the dollars and cents…psssh, that argument isn't even there…trust.


Not trying to convert the hardcore absolutists of the board, just pointing out a plausible explanation for why girls behave as they do when it comes to $$. Trust me, even among their best friends a girl knows how she stacks up (pardon the pun).

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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26788&start=0 is the self-disclosing thread and the subsequents, MG, and in blue below is the natural born fact and history.

Newer members to this message board are entitled to a history lesson from the board from time to time so they can reach their own conclusions about the hilarious concept of "game" and screwing these rent a tarts, eh?

The member self disclosed the off spring and support matter years back making it public in the first place. It is not something I simply laid out there. The member repeatedly casts aspersion after aspersion towards the older members of this board and his inane insistence about himself and his not paying for the bird of the night; that those who do have to be *******PERSONAL ATTACK PROHIBITED BY FORUM POLICY*************** and otherwise ineffective society wise. Ok....fine.....what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Don't want your personal business discussed on a message board? Don't expose it in the first place on that very message board.

And the quote below is the high jack:
Cujo's wrote:
Ahhh..well said. Oddly enough this %100 applies to the men/customer as well..but mongers would (never) know that..

You have the right idea..go after the human nature element..I see ur new around here so let me tell u not to waste ur time pushing that angle…these guys that are about the dollars and cents…psssh, that argument isn't even there…trust.

Welcome to the board.. 8)

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....requires context to understand "....these guys that are about the dollars and cents...pssh, that argument isn't even there.....". But what the hey.....I don't pay either....I'm sexy and I know it (wiggle wiggle) :!: :P

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... that's exactly what I said. The chica sets her price based upon what she wants for the service, and only a money crunch will cause her to discount, which will always affect the quality.

I love listening to guys talk about mongering as if pu*sy was a normal traded commodity. Mongering is a *Service* industry. You're not paying for the product, but the service behind it. As long as guys hard-bargain to get the product as cheaply as possible, they'll continue to gripe about their 'lousy sessions'.

The chica sets her price based on what she thinks she can get. Its up to you to negotiate to her true number. Unless you bully her to less than she wants, I really dont think it affects service. My best sessions have come from chicas willing to negotiate.

This topic has me confused though. Am I in the minority by tipping chicas? Because I really dont see how they could argue over minor exchange rate differences otherwise. I guess I see the issue with girls that upcharge. I dont tip when they play that card. And a chica that refuses to negotiate but I just gotta have anyways wont get tipped either. And terrible performers get no propina, of course. Is this incorrect?


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This topic has me confused though. Am I in the minority by tipping chicas? Because I really dont see how they could argue over minor exchange rate differences otherwise. I guess I see the issue with girls that upcharge. I dont tip when they play that card. And a chica that refuses to negotiate but I just gotta have anyways wont get tipped either. And terrible performers get no propina, of course. Is this incorrect?

TEHO. Some refuse to tip at all. Tipping is a US-born thing. The chicas have learned that it doesn't insult gringos to ask for a propina, though it would not go down so well with the locals. Some chicas get upset when you don't give one, but that is their problem.

If you give a tip, she'll remember you as a guy who tips, and forever more it will be expected. Does it increase service? ... every case is different. In my meager experience, I say that it could rebound and make future sessions less than the first.

If there is a hard-and-fast rule, it could be "Think only about tipping for outstanding, toe-curling service!".

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Mattyice wrote:
This topic has me confused though. Am I in the minority by tipping chicas? Because I really dont see how they could argue over minor exchange rate differences otherwise. I guess I see the issue with girls that upcharge. I dont tip when they play that card. And a chica that refuses to negotiate but I just gotta have anyways wont get tipped either. And terrible performers get no propina, of course. Is this incorrect?

TEHO. Some refuse to tip at all. Tipping is a US-born thing. The chicas have learned that it doesn't insult gringos to ask for a propina, though it would not go down so well with the locals. Some chicas get upset when you don't give one, but that is their problem.

If you give a tip, she'll remember you as a guy who tips, and forever more it will be expected. Does it increase service? ... every case is different. In my meager experience, I say that it could rebound and make future sessions less than the first.

If there is a hard-and-fast rule, it could be "Think only about tipping for outstanding, toe-curling service!".

Youre right. Once youve set the expectations, you cant lower them without causing disappointment.


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This subject of tipping (giving a propina) has been tossed around hundreds of times on CRT. There never has been a consensus agreement, and I am sure there will never be one. Tipping in the Tico culture did not exist until Gringos introduced the concept and to this day Ticos do not understand the concept nor for the most part accept it. Most Ticos consider it just a Gringo thing used to impress the poor with how much money Gringos have. Many, even today will laugh at Gringos for giving tips. To be totally honest, in my opinion, the idea that the ONLY way to get good service is to tip has been so ingrained into the Gringo mind that many gringos just cannot accept the possibility of getting good service without tipping!! The other thing very obvious here is that the biggest tippers and the ones who insist it is the "right" thing to do are most often Gringos who "live by the tip" in the states!! Many can not grasp the concept of "customs being different" and that they are not in the USA when here and "when in Rome, do as the Romans do".

Over the years the working chicas have learned to expect a tip from gringos (the same chica would never expect one from a Tico) and many have learned that if they demand one, they will for sure get one because the gringo thinks he will get inferior service if he doesn't! I have had many young, new to the business chicas ask me why a guy (gringo) gave her "extra" money! Till they are taught by the older chicas they just do not get it. And to be totally honest they and even the older ones laugh at the "stupidity" of gringos for "throwing away their money trying to impress people"!

Whether it gets you better service or not I do not really know (no one I think, knows this for sure). I do know that many chicas have told me it really does not affect how they treat a guy, that they pluck him the same either way. Many have said how he treats her, how she feels about him, and how much fun she has with him, is much more important and more likely to affect the service than the getting a tip is. The idea of getting her to agree to less and a tip if she preforms great assuring you of a better session is a fallacy! The chica feels she has been put on the spot, and the only way she can get her desired amount of money is to preform above expectations. This actually upsets her and distracts her mentially which often will result in her actually preforming below what she would have if he had just agreed to the same amount of dollars without any mention of a tip.

I have a reputation (mostly among fellow gringos) of being very opposed to tipping and that I never do it. This is not totally true. As with others over paying for a session, tipping by others just puts more money in her pocket and reduces her "need" for money (remember the one truism--"they live for the moment and never think about tomorrow"). This results in me (the next guy after a "big spender") getting a lower price with much less negotiating. She is feeling good because she has more money in her pocket than she was expecting and does not now have to worry about where the "rent money" is coming from and she will "let her hair down" and be ready to "really" party with me (the next guy)!!! Think about that for a moment! When you over pay or over tip, you are often paying for the next guy to get a better experience! :roll: :twisted: :lol:

As for as whether I tip or not: Anytime a chica starts talking "tip" before the session even starts, I WALK, period!! No matter where you are from or what you may think, in my opinion, a tip is something you 'earn" not something that is automatic! I know many of my friends in the service industries will disagree with me, but they are wrong and that "automatic" giving of tips is why so often today "service" is so lousy. The whole concept of "tipping" originally was to "express ones appreciation for outstanding service", in other words "something that was earned"! That idea has been lost all too often in the STATES!! I DO tip on occasion when the service was totally mind blowing and we both totally enjoyed ourselves!!

Another issue: Etiquette says you NEVER tip a self employed person!! By Costa Rican law, all putas are "self employed "!! Secondly, custom in the USA is now a 20% tip (I remember when it was 10% and then 15% -where does it go next? jejeje). Here it is still 10% and remember "when in Rome"!!!!! I see and read of guys all the time giving chicas huge tips In most cases in MPs the chicas get slightly more than half the price paid. For example, in most "low rent" MPs they get c10000. If you give her c5000 you have just given her a 50% tip!!!! WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU EVER TIP 50%???? Why here?????

I will tell you one of the things I frequently do with MP chicas and my regulars. Rather than a monetary tip I give them condoms. I buy condoms in large quantity on Amazon for about 15cents each. Most of the time condoms cost the chicas over a dollar each and all MP chicas have to buy their own, the MP does not give them free condoms. If she is really good, I will often give her as many as 10 condoms--cost me $1.50 but saves her c5000!! I have found them to be very appreciative of this type of "tip" Win-Win for both of us!!!!!!!!!

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...This actually upsets her and distracts her mentially which often will result in her actually preforming below what she would have if he had just agreed to the same amount of dollars without any mention of a tip.

a bit of a reach there. Some of these girls CAN walk and chew gum at the same time.
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...Think about that for a moment! When you over pay or over tip, you are often paying for the next guy to get a better experience! :roll: :twisted: :lol:

Well, we have to subsidize you. Yer old, ugly, and you talk funny. How else are ya gunna get laid if we don't pre-pay the girls! :mrgreen:
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...I know many of my friends in the service industries will disagree with me, but they are wrong and that "automatic" giving of tips is why so often today "service" is so lousy.

with this, I need to disagree a bit. When I was in Russia, I could not believe the poor service received in restaurants. You virtually had to explode to get any attention. And this was not an isolated incident. Tipping was unheard-of and the workers made peanuts for wages. They had no incentive to be polite (or good at their jobs). I prefer an economy that makes people 'work' for a tip.
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...custom in the USA is now a 20% tip (I remember when it was 10% and then 15% -where does it go next? jejeje).... If you give her c5000 you have just given her a 50% tip!!!! WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU EVER TIP 50%???? Why here?????

there was an article on CNN this week about how most waitresses make the same base salary as 20 years ago. Personally, the smallest I tip in the US is $5 ... even for a $10 meal. Maybe that makes me a sucker, but I know how far that $5 tip goes for the waitress ... nowhere! And it isn't hurting me to give it to her. Same said for a small amount/large percentage tip in MPs. Though at $10, a c5000 tip is extravagant to me.
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...Rather than a monetary tip I give them condoms.

this works coming from you, but if I tried this, it'd be seen as a cheap-ass gringo trying to insult her.

As always, you're detail is thought provoking. This 'tipping' notion has been extolled in many threads. Frankly, what a fool does with his money is his issue.

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