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Well, there be a guy with blinders on! I can't say I know anyone that even has AIDS. But I wouldn't suspect anyone was gay or a drug addict because of it. I would only agree that the numbers are higher among that population due simply to the way it is spread.

As for licking some punta. I enjoy that. I've met a copule of girls there that really seem to enjoy it, and most of them I do not feel they are clean enough for me to take part in this particular enjoyment.

Well, I guess I should chime in here. Having carried on a "relationship" with a former Del Rey cien girl, I have some insight. I have an inquiring mind and have asked many questions about the "typical" John. Now, I can only speak for one girl. And, of course, who knows if she is actually telling me the truth. But, on this subject, I'll believe her. It seems that many, many men ASK for sex sin condom. According to her some offer WAY beyond the agreed upon price for sex w/condom. When she says that she won't do it the usual responses are: "I'm sterile, don't worry." Or, "If you want to make this quick, do me without condomn." I've heard of extravangant offers ($500+) for sex sin condom. Given the info that I have gathered it seems over half of the men ASK for sex sin condom. I tend to believe this because guys like us are adventurous risk takers at heart. Hedonists-pleasure at any price. No doubt in my mind, given the law of large numbers, that many guys on this board would do BB if given the opportunity. Just my dos colones.

dapanz1

PS..same thing goes for DATY. Most guys ASK and are willing to pay extra for it with the DR girls. I guess we think money will buy anything. Y pay extra? Hit the MP's.

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Paradise= Sitting outside the Bodega in Panama City about 1 am. Drinking cool Balboas with cool friends and blazin' hot Colombianas. I want to be there..RIGHT NOW!

As for HIV and DATY....

Just keep your tongue outside the puzz. lick the clit and lips, don't take a dip. Hiv is concentrated in Vaginal fluids.

Me? If she passes the No Bumps/sores and it don't smell like fish....I'll lick it and stick it.

No marathons or squishy, squirters for me.

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Different spot, same topic. Leche for a mom is also an HIV threat. Aprox. 1/3 of breastfed infants sero-convert. Of course, they have a long term exposure to the milk. as opposed to a mongers pint or two...

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I think it's because of the rice and beans but Latin Pus*y tastes better.

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Why Chicas Come to CostaRica:

"Predators gather where prey abounds"

If I have to have an instruction manual as what or not what to lick may as well forget it.

Come on are you really that concerned Why spend the bucks to come to San Jose, stay home and watch porn flicks

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Does anyone have any knowledge of a monger friend contracting a condition from this activity?

Personally, I do not. My urologist, who is a player in his own right which may or may not make his opinion reliable, seems to think the likelihood is very, very low. I've read the theoretical warnings, but would be interested in a testimonial.

I know I'm at least 100 for 100 in 10 countries without a problem. But that's like saying you don't need the flu vaccine because you didn't get the flu 2 years in a row.

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Seems like I spend half my life drinking, gambling, and mongering. The other half... I waste.

Some guys were talking about unprotected sex in this thread. I just have to add: I'm in bed with the Columbian girl I picked up at the BM, and we're talking about the other BM girls (in broken spanish). Anyway, she says that one of the working girl's mothers is collecting dinero from the other girls for her daughter who is in the hospital fighting aids. So, if you want to go unprotected in CR, go at it. But not me, brother. bat.

This is an interesting thread.

Rolex had a valid observation, though to say AIDS is OVERBLOWN would definitely fall on the riskier side of the AIDS debate. OTOH, DonCanadian's reaction was also extreme. The point that Rolex, Slickwings and Ruffnutz were trying to make is that everything is a calculated risk. On one side you have total celibacy or a monogamous relationship (even that assumes she didn't catch something before you started the relationship that somehow escaped testing or she isn't lying to you about not screwing around) and on the other is having unprotected anal sex in gay bath houses. For most of us neither extreme is a practical or desirable alternative so we try to find our own happy medium somewhere between. Sometimes it is based on carefully calculated assumption of risk, sometimes it is based on anecdotal impressions or myths and sometimes it is just done without any real thought.

There will always be a health risk in our hobby and we should all take whatever reasonable precautions we can to minimize those risks and still enjoy ourselves. But we should also put those risks in perspective. The risk of HIV infection from anything short of unprotected genital-genital or genital-anal sex is much less than many other things we routinely do without a second thought.

As an aside on a related topic, there was an interesting thread on this board (which seems to have been deleted) on the possibility that the HIV/AIDS as an STD is a total misconception. If you are interested to hear that story, do a web search on "AIDS myth" or Dr. Peter Duesberg of UCal Berkeley. Personally, I don't know what to think of that, but people are dying from something and I don't see any point in taking unnecessary risks. So what is a monger to do?

There has been a lot of discussion on this board on the HIV/STD risk involved with BBBJ's but not nearly as much on DATY. There was one particularly informative post, which also seems to have disappeared, that had a link to a site which broke down the relative risk of various sexual practices for various types of STDS. Does anyone still have that link? Anyway, a quick search did turn up a few other informative links. In particular, Snooky posted a couple of links:
http://www.lgbthealthchannel.com/stdmsm/behavior.shtml (Snooky, what are you doing at gay sites ?) Covers everything from anal rimming to watersports but unfortunately doesn't really cover DATY.
http://www.dph.sf.ca.us/sfcityclinic/drk/oralsex.asp covers DATY and concludes there is likely not a high risk of HIV transmission from DATY - absolutely no cases have been documented.

Basically, the big HIV risk is in blood and seminal fluids. HIV in vaginal fluids or saliva is extremely low or non-existent and transmission of the virus through oral-genital contact has NEVER been documented - ie essentially zero risk. Where the real DATY HIV risk comes in is if she has any vaginal bleeding or is at or near her period or if any seminal fluid is down there from her last client (kinda makes you wonder about DFK too, doesn't it?).

BTW, it doesn't surprise me at all that many gringos ask for bareback sex (I think they're nuts) and it wouldn't surprise me at all either how many chicas give in to get the business or the extra dinero. Be careful out there guys.

Of course there are also other STDs (generally non-fatal). In terms of oral sex, the riskiest one is probably Herpes, which also happens to be uncurable. This risk can not be completely removed but a visual inspection for obvious sores goes a long way to cutting down the risk.

Here's my personal take:
1) Don't brush or floss beforehand (at least not immediately beforehand), but do keep breathmints handy to use instead.
2) Do a discreet finger swipe and sniff taste before going down there. No reason to get any unpleasant surprises.
3) Go in for a quick closer visual inspection before diving in (of course you can't see whats going on inside, which is another reason to keep the oral ministrations on the outside).
4) Never go down on high volume MP girls, at least not late in their work day.
5) I've never tried dental dams. I don't know why, maybe its just me but I feel pulling one out sends untrusting signals to the girl which can spoil the mood. Maybe if I learn to do it more discretely, like some of the girls can when they use their mouths to slip on a condom for a CBJ. Incidentally, I hear that a little piece of saran wrap works just as well as those commercial products.
6) No tongue probing. I leave that for my fingers and other bodily appendages. The girls seem to appreciate the clitoral-tongue stimulation the most anyway.
7) Do not generally go down on a girl with a lot of razor stubble. I'm not sure how much risk there is of microabrasions, but I just don't enjoy it as much.
8 ) Never sure whether to swallow or spit after I leave the MP. Though any damage has probably already been done by that point. I always go for a alcohol gargle as soon as practical afterwards - either at a bar or with a Scope gargle in my room.

HotLuck had a recent post that summed up most of the precautions to take before oral ops http://www.costaricaticas.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4183&start=2 and he really summed it up very well in his close:

ok

Tonight I licked the biscuit of my new favorita!! NEVER been a working girl, I sure did enjoy it and my cheeks are still glazed!!! Lord I love this country!!!
PAX,
Sluthog

Have been with lots of so-called novias...they want to go sin condom...and i am thinking I am novio...this is the deceiving part, sin condom, then they want to keep in touch, and you send money because you think you are the only one doing it with em , but the truth is they are doing 7 guys a week, on average....I know it is prevalent...just hope nothing is caught from you or from me,(you know who) as we are told solo mi, mi amor! Be careful, especially in paradise!!!

Uh, yeah.
I know one Tica that 9 different guys had first.

Bottom line, to each his own.

I'm curious as to what someone would do if he found out he contracted a permanent communicable disease.... Would he still insist on BBBJ and DATY and risk spreading to subsequent customers of the chica or would this curb his behavior.

How does this situation fall under the unwritten motto of always looking out for each other?

Ruffnutz

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Even IF she had really never been a working girl (and one can never rely on their word for that), I'm sure she was not a virgin. How do you know where her former tico novios had been? Its my impression that latino guys are if anything less prone to want to use a cover than us gringos. I wouldn't use your belief that a girl has never worked as a prostitute as any assurance she is disease free.

Guys,
My Gf was introduced to me bt an old friend. Her husband of 10 yrs died one year ago of heart problems. She truly is a non-pro! If you don't belirve me ask Tman!! I am gonna eat the whole biscuit manana!!
PAX,
Sluthog