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I think the assumption that you're even going to have to handle an attitude is half the battle.... The flat assumption that gringas can't act right is overwhelming. Can we expect some sort of drama from our latina counterparts? It's been known to happen...


Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

Nah...the real of it is we are talking tastes, what we are attracted to... In an effort to "give up" on gringas we bring "attitude" into the equation to make it better.

Wheather any of us can deal with it is irrelavant I guess, because after all, I'm sure you've met "1 or 2" latinas with attitudes....right?

So again to understand me is to understand the visual or physical preference angle.... Not the attitude.

I just don't mention the attitude because I wouldn't rely on anything but me regardless of the type of chica I'm speaking with..


Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

Late 50's white guy - Probably because of CR, I'm now only attracted to Latinas. Gringas have become a turnoff. I have a Mexican GF, have taken over a dozen college courses in Spanish and can Salsa (a huge advantage!). They're saying that hispanics will be the dominant ethnicity in Texas within 5 years. Life is good with my latina and meeting others in the salsa clubs right here in the US. I stand by those who are more attracted to the latinas!

Tada...!! May I ask if that has anything to do with being able to court a youger woman in CR? Hey....nothing wrong with that, we all enjoy the softer skin of girls in their 20's etc..

But lets just be real about it, when we bring attitude in the equation it helps mask the fact we aren't going to court our younger gringa counterparts....I get it.

But we must tred lightly how we speak so emotional responses don't clutter a thread. I appreciate all these responses because someday I will be right behind you guys. I do what I can to learn as much as I can through observing those older and wiser.

Years ago in a different thread, I simply wondered when/how this will happen to me. Not being able to keep the thread clear of emotional responses made it come to an end.


Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

Srilm,

That is exactly why I put in gringa/anglo. A gringa can be African American so to for someone to say they don't like the Gringa look that would cover basically every look in the world.

I think there is also the issue of P4P going on. Yeah, you can go to CR and hook-up (date) with hot working girl latinas in their 20s. You can stay in the states and hook-up (date) with hot working girl anglo looking girls.

Hell I'll even go so far as to say you can do both in both places even if they aren't working girls but YOU BETTER have something that they want. There has to be something. There are all kinds of motivations and reasons. Find a young girl that has father issues and you can make it happen, if you can fulfill her wants, needs and desires. Your age and your looks have little to do with it IF, and that is a BIG IF, you can fill some need, want or desire in her. It can be security, she may actually even be attracted older men (HEY it CAN happen/ I'm not saying it happens a lot but it can), you could even appeal to her on an intellectual basis. There are all types and all sizes to choose from. It is good we disagree on what we like.

I think the point Cujo is making that there is a great deal of American girl bashing that goes on here. I think he is questioning, Is that a result lack of physical attraction? Or is it the result that guys going to CR are able "date" younger women and therefore they become anti-gringa. If (again a big if but IF) we had LEGAL places here in the US similar to the DR, HLH, Relax, SL would you then find yourself again attracted to the "gringa" look. If so, then perhaps he is right and it is "sour grapes".

To each his own. But, I simply can not help myself when it comes to physical attraction. If there is a group of hot women usually my eye will be drawn to the blonde. But at the end of the day... I like women PERIOD.

KenLee

Bravo Ken Lee


Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

I think this is bullcrap. Sorry KL but I have to call it as I see it... Remember not to hit me too hard next time we meet.

The point Cujo is making is this one: "You guys don't like gringas BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THEM."

And that's not what people are saying here at all. I believe that to be true for SOME guys, but I also believe most guys saying negative things about gringas are saying them because they have EXPERIENCED or seen their friends and male relatives experience negative things WITH gringas. Much more often than they have with Latinas.

And so, if they feel they have a better chance of finding an agreeable latina than an agreeable gringa, why criticize them for making that choice?

You also seem to be saying that, if all things were equal, most CRTers would be drawn to the hot blonde gringa instead of the hot brunette latina. I disagree. Given a comparable gringa and a latina, I will go for the latina 98% of the time. And I suspect most CRTers would, too.

My two centavos,

mh

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mh

I think I'm more so asking...

Now this really applies to former gringa lovers who "now" love latinas, so this thread may not apply to everone reading it. BUT if you once prefered gringas and now prefer latinas (regardless of reason) do you have much of a choice? So when gringas aren't an option really, isn't it easier to site attitude problems or whatever...? Yea, of course its easier, extremely convienient out..

However, some guys don't prefer gringas at all and never have, no problems with that either.

So while some complaints can come from a different angle from one guy to the next, knowing those guys don't have the option anymore makes it a grey area of opinion...

As I've said, I too will cross that bridge soon but when I do, I'll leave the smoking mirrors behind and just do what I gotta do. So when I hit 40 or 50 and can no longer get the kind of gringa hotties I want, I to will be left no choice. I don't feel I will have to substantiate that by saying gringas suck or whatever. It is what it is, fuckit man....

Perhaps I can just start to learn to be attracted to latinas the same way.. One thing in my favor is that in P4p countries the attitudes are different by default. Being a more socially accepted practice, money or P4P can do a lot to the average latina "attitude"...

I'll be there, esperame chicas

Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

You hit the nail on the head. It's that "What Have You Done for me Lately" attitude that drives me to monger. I thought Eddie Murphy's Raw was so damn funny until I started living it. It seemed like the more I did, the more was expected of me, and the more I was taken for granted in several relationships with gringas. It always seemed about control, about selfishness, it's the Donahue and Oprah generation. Well, let them have the feminized guys that abound nowadays, they can have their neutered men, I still have my balls and i act like a man's man.

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Man I'm living life like a great white shark swimming with minnows! It's all about panocha, great scotch, fine cigars, loud-ass rock music and speed, speed, speed - plus spending as much time as possible in paradise on earth, Costa Rica!

My dos colones...

I love all women - gringas, latinas, asians, europeans, etc. IMO, looks are a given. If there's no physical attraction, there would be no pursuit involved anyways, so that's a moot point. But I'm with KenLee regarding attitude.

If she's drop-dead gorgeous with a piss-poor attitude (regardless where she's from), I want NOTHING to do with her. To me, there's nothing worse than laying down with a woman who "acts" like she's doing you a favor. I'll take a "5" or "6" with a sexy, sultry & playful attitude ten times out of ten, versus a "10" that feels like she's ENTITLED and acts like you're beneath her. And as I said, this goes for ALL women. Of course.... YMMV.

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You ALWAYS have an option ....... "NEXT" !!!

MH come on bro.... Would I hit you? Come on now. LOL

The thing here is this, at least in my opinion, there are two distinct issues at play here. One is whether you are physically attracted to the Anglo/Saxon look or the Latin look. Thank GOD we aren't all attracted to the same look or the line at Relax would be out the door and down the street with guys waiting for the same girl! LOL

The other issue is attitude. I think Cujo disagrees with me on this but that just might be because, I don't think, he has traveled the world as much. Especially to Europe. I agree with Srilm, while I haven't been to the former eastern bloc countries I have spent a great deal of time in Germany, Holland and Belgium. I've also been to France, England, Austria, Switzerland and Italy. In fact many years ago I was stationed in Germany. What I found there is that when you got yourself away from the cities and areas where there were high concentrations of American GI's and tourists you found not only the women easier to approach but everyone else too. At least in general. Being American made you special and different and......Some how it seems more attractive. Which then brings me back to the point I was trying to make. I think, especially, in places where there are high concentrations of Americans, much of the world sees us, in general, as having "attitudes". Men and women. This issue of "attitude" has, I think, more to do with our culture than it does how we "look". I'm sure we have all seen chicks that have the "I'm all that and much, much more" attitude but they aren't even slightly attractive. So, what makes them feel that way? I say, at least in the case of American girls, that it is, in part, our culture that makes us feel "entitled". Don't get me wrong people from other countries and other cultures can have that same attitude but it does seem to me that it is more prevalent in our society based on my own experience. Our society is so caught up in youth and looks and materialistic things that many of us, men and women, have forgotten how to just be "nice" people".

I simply can't stand to be around a chick or guy either, for that matter, that is full of themselves. It doesn't matter whether they are American, Costa Rican, German, Dutch or anything else. With regards to women it isn't a matter of not being able to "get it" either. I am instantly turned off by it. Instantly. Some guys are boob men, some guys like a big juicy ass but I have always considered myself to be attracted to the "Package". For me, I can't separate the look from the attitude when it comes to being attracted to someone. In the post above I said I find myself being drawn to the blond, blue eyed girl in a group of girls. But while my eyes may be at first drawn to the blond haired, blue eyed girl with in a minute of talking to them it could easily change to the sweet dark haired, brown eyed beauty who is down to earth.

KenLee and that's just about all I've got to say about that.

After reading all of these responses, had to put in my two pennies. I have been married three times, and engaged a few more (I know, starting to think it is more about me then them!) times. I have had two marriages to american women, and was engaged with two hispanic women (both from Mexico that now lived in the US). I am currently now married (and am praying this is it, I really think it is!) to a lady from Venezuela for the last six plus years. ALL of the american women I was with were very hard to deal with in their own ways (to many ways to list!). The latinas in my experience are just so much easier for me to get along with! They are passionate, appreciative, loving, and have all had a good head on their shoulders. The only reason the majority of these relationships didnt work was because of me, plain and simple. In my younger days I had a tendency to roam! Now dont get me wrong, nobody is perfect, but I would take a latina over a gringa ANY DAY. JMHO. KGK

I am with MG.

Now, when I lived in the country, gringas were very friendly.

Dean

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my first wingman sent me this, how true

" most of the girls down here, lie as a self defense mechanism and to not have to face the truth, thinking most men couldn't accept them knowing the whole truth. Simpler, they may just want men to think they are as perfect as they want to appear to them, trying to hide what they consider to be the ugly truth about themselves. And I may be reading more into it than is there, but I do believe they consider the basis of the lies to be justified."

So it doesn't appear as there is anything that would change the interpretation of the term gringa as a negative thing for most guys on thisforum.. I just see it as a white chick. But anyways KGK mentioned that latinas for him in general are more loving, appreciative and I've found that to be true also. dude answer this for me let's say for the ones that are outside the U.S. do they develop those negative habits when they come here? or is it only if they grew up in the U.S. (or any other modern country)? product of your environment?.. so we blame it on the school system,parents spoiling their precious daughter. what else . because I've met some latinas w/attitude as well. maybe it's me I think they all talk too damn much.

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Enzo5 Partially Wrote:


I'll take my share of the blame for giving up my b*lls in my marriage.

I gave up my b*lls, and she still was not happy. She was more than happy to take my b*lls, but then don't know what to do with them, except look for a stronger man, that wasn't the wimp I had become.

That will never happen again.

Health & happiness to all.............

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