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Lee says:

This was the basis for this thread. GFE guys tend to want to talk about their feelings....LAL guys get uncomfortable, and don't understand why anybody would want to. I understood that from the beginning....but there is nothing sinister about discussing the different ways we go about this hobby. That's silly.

I think it is smart for the GFE guys to be careful if they get hooked up with one of the con girls that might try to take their money. Nothing in this discussion has even remotely encouraged any GFE guy to put down his guard and start sending thousands of dollars to his novia.



No...not even close. Maybe you just resent the GFE guys for getting too close to these chicas emotionally. We all use the chicas in one way or another, and pay them for what they provide. But to suggest that developing some kind of emotional bond with her is bad for her is really off the mark, in my humble opinion. If you mean that a guy will intentionally pretend a girl is his novia, and lie to her about their future together, just to break her heart....then yes, I agree with you. That would definately be wrong and we would both be uncomfortable about that. I have never seen a guy admit that in a trip report here, or anywhere on this board.

I have no problem with the LAL guys and their motives, and I think most of them could care less about what the GFE guys do. GFE guys like to talk about this stuff, most LAL guys don't. If thinking about what you are doing in CR makes you uncomfortable, then don't. I have no problem with your method....hopefully you don't with mine.

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Hello Astro

"Remember that the GFE guy is not really looking for a Girlfriend. He is looking for a Girlfriend Experience.
So it should have all the similarities of a real relationship, but you should be able to walk away at the end of the trip
and leave her behind, returning to the real world. "

You are absolutely right with above stated, thats what "we = GFE" want, a "no risk" relationship "substitution".
At home - relationships are risky to loose,
not so in San Jose or Rio or Pattaya - they are "substitutable ...........within hours".

I am a GFE my entire monger career and could not do it any different.
Well, maybe alcohol helps and I might be able to "oversee" the fact that I don't even know her name the next morning,
but this is very rare.

Every girl that you meet in a particular locations, is a prostitute.
She would not be there if she is not willing to meet single gringos and make some dollars.
At that point, she does not know if you are an GFE or LAL and her only interests is your "doe".
However, this changes rapidly once you open up, treat her like your "amorata" and.....
......stay with her a day or two or even more.

Being a GFE and having rather "long term" relationship, gives you a real "head up" and dare you to disappoint that girl,
After 1 or 2 days already, you could really hurt her feelings and as well make her look very stupid
in front of her girl friends and even family.
And yes - there are "professional" GFEs that are taking advantage of this knowledge,
and dissapear after 1 week "pounding the same girl" without paying anything, no presents - no nothing.
Shame on those - I have seen them everywhere.

I believe that there are big differences between a prostitute in the US/Western Europe and in third world countries.
Those girls are not real prostitutes as we understand it.
SJ - Rio - Thai girls etc, do have "a heart", they do have "feelings" and are very "sensitive" -
-but....it's only for the time beeing, and we are "substituted" sometimes within hours.
It's just their mentality to fall easy and quick in love with someone,
especially with Western "GFEs", as we treat them surely way much nicer than their latino boy friend/pimp would or does.

In average, a Rio girl needs about 12 hours of crying after your departure, and then she is back on the road....LOL.
That does not mean that she does not love you - it just means you broke up - and the break up was your departure.
Once you come back - you are back together (although this may not that what you want..)!

And all that chatter about the later incoming "love letters" and emails asking for money etc etc,
this is a very normal behaviour that is often "guided" and even operated by girl friends / boy friends and family.
Me, as an GFE, I would not feel bad about it. They don't ask you so they can hurt you....!
And if you send a 100 bucks for Xmass or so - you know what they will do ?
They will take a day off their miserable life - and spend it all within 12 hours! Thats all.
It will not make them stop to work, but it will "enlighten" one day of their lives - and thats just fine with me.

I have met some guys - all GFEs - from US and Germany, they send every month $1500 - $2000 to their Rio loves.
LALs will laugh about this but for me it is ok - if you can afford it - lol.
And you know what ? Even this does not make them stop working, it just takes their pressure away
to go with anyone just for the money. And thats a good thing - I guess.

But they still go out, to Help and other places, and eventually hook up with a new customer.
It's the party of their lives, they need love - sex and attention.
Money all alone does not make it for them, especially if you (her love) are not with here

I personally believe that LALs are missing out a lot, however they surely have less headache
and "heartache". And often, it safes money on the long run to be an LAL too...... LOL.

Just my 2 cents.....

Yours
Webdesigner

Some great insight on this topic WD,
you seem to be an experienced guy that has mastered the GFE to your advantage... I'd say the first around here!


Quite a profound statement, impressive.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUtj_YnNoY

Web....one of the best posts I have ever read. Not sure I could have written it better myself. Hookers are people too.

dapanz1

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Webdesigner: Thanks for a great contribution to this topic. You said

I had never thought about that, but I know that must be true. I have never had any interest in US pros. I think they are a different breed. I like the fact that I can leave my GFE behind in some foreign place that only I can get to whenever I want to, not the other way around. I also agree that these girls, expecially the ones I have known in Costa Rica, are much closer to real girls just trying to make a living. The latina girls in poor countries have a warmth and a sincerity that you don't find up here. I know it's temporary, but the "experience" is real to me.



Careful, some of the LAL guys on this board will have them strung up by their gonads for that. Even if they CAN afford it, that is just not a good idea. As you say, the girl will probably go back to working anyway, and eventually the guy will figure out that this is not going to work and feel ripped off. I think a good policy is to never send them money, but tell them "I promise to help out when I am there." And never pay them more than what you are getting in services rendered. Guys on this board get real pissed off when they see a stupid monger throwing his money around, because it raises the price for everybody.

Welcome to the board...and thanks for the intelligent comments.

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One of the finest threads to be found here... to the top!

Me, I had to learn more about the LAL side of life, and 7 chicas in 7 days my first trip was a fine intro. Relieved to find no "3rd world" guilt or qualms, but just to see people as people. Even my first MP -- Jocelyn at NF -- was warm and welcoming to a GFE style.

So, I go from wild guy at the Europa show (too bad -- no prizes won) on a Friday night to getting my heartstrings tugged on Sunday by -- well, to be continued...

Perhaps we are all both.....
as both heads need to be satisified..
Sometimes one more than the other.
Sometimes the heart steps in..
and we're all akin.

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I have only had GFE experiences while in CR, granted I am not as experienced as many of you. I try to avoid hardcore pros, but to be truthful, I haven't encountered many. So, I can't say I'm a GFE guy, because the fact that when or if I do get tired of the chica, I can go on may merry way. That constitutes the LAL mentality. If I was an GFE guy totally, I would be dealing with the REAL LIFE DATING BULLSH*T. I guess I would be considered a Hybrid also. Keep'em as long as the experience is good, and leave'em when it becomes work.

Life is sort confusing when tryin to answer questions like this "GFE or LAL guy??".

Maybe some one can answer this on for me. "Why do we want our non-pros (Girl friends) to act like pros,and pros (working women) to act like non-pros???"

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Life is what it is, so live up!!!!

If there isn't some kind of fantasy, affection, etc... for me, I might as well save my money and go see 'rosie' and her 5 sisters.
A poor substitute for a hot latina kissing my ear and screaming 'fuerte!'

Anybody know what happened to Astroglide?

KS

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It's amazing to me that this thread, started way back last summer, is now alive again. It shows that a new group of hobbyists is considering their preferences in the hobby.

I chose the GFE guy, but like many of you, I guess I'm a hybrid.

I've never had great "zipless sex," where there's no communication, etc. Sadly, I can't just get it up, get it in, get it off, get it out. Truthfully, I can only enjoy sex with a woman who has somehow grabbed the big head.

Do I want more than one date? Probably not, but I want the encounter to have many aspects of dating: dining, conversation, flirting, a bit of cuddling etc. before the main course. After the sex, I like cuddle time, conversation, a drink or a smoke, a smile. If that's a GFE guy, I'm it...but I don't necessarily want to revisit the same woman twice. There are just too many nice ones out here.

Boogie asks, "Why do we want our non-pro girlfriends to act like pros, and our pro girlfriends to act like non-pros? Too complicated to fully answer here, but a hint may be that we want hotter sex and fewer hassles from wives/girlfriends, but we'd like to delude ourselves that each of us is "the only one" for the pro, that it's not just a job for her.

If you want an emotionless encounter, screw a blow-up doll, because human emotions will always enter into the transaction between man and woman.

It may be that the hardened pros are hard because they've been hurt, disappointed or cheated of their dreams. If not, they'd still be sweet and "innocent."

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Pura Vulva! Wandering through the dark, I am El Ciego.

I'm an MP guy, so conquest is not an issue. I like something like a GFE with a lady, though we never lose reality of who we are and what the relationship is (hopefully). I've only been with one lady in CR more than 4 times, and that got a little messy. Not relatives coming to chop off my hand kind of messy, but more complicated that I'd prefer. I'd have taken several of the 4-time ladies up on it again, but I couldn't find them. The most recent was Marcella from ZB. It is nice to be able to talk to the lady as a person and I used to chat her up even if I went with somebody else. Usually if she was available I went with her. Many of us are somewhere in the middle.

I am a GFE much to my dismay, and much to my GFE's dismay as well in the long run. I am one , that if the chemistry is right, will see someone multiple times. Why go thru the "interview" every single nite, and hope you guessed correctly ( this is me speaking rhetorically). This has ,of course, lead to expectations on her part about what we "are".

And there is where the problems lie. As little as I want to play the lottery each nite, she wants to do that even less...so when a GFE guy(me) comes around , and the connection is made...look out. I tend to be quiet, described as charming ( by gringas no less), and do treat my dates as ladies first and foremost. Drinks, dancing, dinner (nothing fancy as most don't get "it"), never any demands.If they are nice, a second date.

And what that gets me is a rather confused chica.

Met a very nice semi -pro last trip to DomRep. Was with her two nites, and ran into her again a third, but was out with the boys. Bought her a beer ,but did not invite her to sit...and I still remember the confused look in her eyes...why won't he ask me over...

I regularily see a pro in MX, and one nite she decides she wants to have another girl with us. OK with me. Well Ok until she blows her top as I am shagging chica two and enjoying it. She was so pissed off she threw my money back at me! One year later ,she finally admits she was so jealous she couldn't see straight.

Bottom line for me, GFE can be a pleasant or painful thing. I won't avoid it, I just try to be more aware about the impact it has on my partner.

Gentlemen:

Always remember to listen to the little voice in the back of your head that is reminding you this is a lovely sweet young lady you or paying to treat you like a girlfriend. The fantasy is wonderful I've enjoyed myself but keep reality with-in arms reach.


Lee



PS: DO NOT SEND MONEY.

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El Ciegeo wrote;

You should talk to Ol Circus about "huggy" before you start saying things like that.
( You might hurt someone's feelings )
And I'm not just talking about Circus's

Really Nucknfuts

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Don't believe everything you think ............

Sure wish Astro was back!

Nice someone brought this thread back to life as I missed it. The GFE or LAL I believe is simply set by the Latina. Even a hardcore LAL guy may change to some degree to a GFE type if she pushes all the right buttons & is totally his cup of tea. I have seen some real LAL types in the states change under some of these conditions in CR. He just never expected that a working or semi pro could ever be warmer & more affectionate with truly amazing passion that surpassed even his last 2 wives he divorced that were never working in the sex trade. And this guy thought he was a harden LAL type. Think truly seasoned vets shield this better as they have been thru this many times & know many more are yet to come.

Myself I have my own rating & category system. Too me some are just for the fantasy that fulfills a certain look I want others are for the pure mechanical skills they have acquired (virgins are usually not good in this area). The ones that are the most overall satisfying too me are the ones that are 9-10 in looks & new to the scene & have a good mind plus cute mannerisms (personality) to complete the package. These tend to grow on me & also the sex seems to become more intense as the chemistry broadens. I never loose sight of who is paying & why this all is happening & even if they try to refuse my payment I will not let them as I know free ends up like all the other free gimmicks we receive in our mail daily with tampon strings attached!!

The only gifts I buy are for my favorite & best performers. I tell them why I gave them this as one maybe only a LAL type but wanted to reward her as I really appreciate her special mechanical talent & another GFE type for her continue warm friendship that has developed.

This quote: "Remember that the GFE guy is not really looking for a Girlfriend. He is looking for a Girlfriend Experience. So it should have all the similarities of a real relationship, but you should be able to walk away at the end of the trip
and leave her behind, returning to the real world. "

I find this true & easy for me to do & the nice part about some of the Latinas I know is you can quickly pickup where you left off when you return.

Webdesigner

If this isn't an understatement! Many are truly very real & haven't slept with that many men I have found & many don't like sleeping with that many either. I believe LEE recently found one like this that didn't really know what she was doing. It is obvious when you find these. I have found a few that even asked if I could show them how to do a BJ right. I think it is a woman’s nature to try to hang on to who they know & trust as long as they can make ends meet. It has paid me to be really nice & genuine. I have recently met a few that are much more calculating than I thought possible because I find so many with Ch*ld like minds even though they are very bright eyed. I have watched as they seek out middle age men with money to put in their private type network. Once they have completed their network you do not see them out again unless their enrolment drops to a critical level. The ones I know like this may not be common & I find no traces of drug use, No tatoos & hardware. They do have a cel phone for business but no email accounts. Sounds impossible but it is true. I am starting to wonder how many are this smart. This type seems to be quite logical which surprises me also. They seem to be able to deal with the fact that they know you will not be their solution for their life but a temporary fix to their current problems but they give it their all & treat you with a total GFE experience & are always excited when you return. Maybe they have accepted & understand the mistress role that exists in many 3rd world countries after all they have grown up around this & many have watched their fathers partake in this activity. Anyway the beauty of this has been I don’t get ragged on & they accepted me for what I provide. Try this with a gringa she if she understands a mistress role?

The beauty of these types of countries is you can do both LAL & GFE at the same time & adjust things to your tastes. Just always remember this is a real fantasy but a fantasy at best & don’t loose you head over it!

Zippy