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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:15 pm 
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I smell a sting with this whacko?


And this is what is wrong on here, people who can't help but to attack the person rather than the idea/subject.

Just remember folks: Name calling and threats are the last resort of limited intelligence.

I'm going to change my byline to "Just remember folks: Name calling and threats are the last resort of limited intelligence." I think people need to be reminded on a regular basis. It just might make this forum a better place to exchange ideas if people didn't have to fear people who resort to such. It might also encourage others to participate.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:18 pm 
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I retract my statement with appropriate apologies to D2864. Pardon me please, sir.


No problem Triple. This is an exercise in developing a thick skin.


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D2864 wrote:
Triple FFF wrote:
I retract my statement with appropriate apologies to D2864. Pardon me please, sir.


No problem Triple. This is an exercise in developing a thick skin.


To clarify for the record, sir...

I retract specifically and excusively my statement, " you are a liar".

Nothing more and nothing less.

You and your posts are competely suspect.

Your rush to post only adds to my / our suspicion of the validity of your posts, sir.

Again, please go away peacefully.

We do not trust you, your posts, your perspective, nor accept your position as valid.

I only retract that in the post discussed you were not a liar.

You are in your other posts most likely a liar on all other points.

Please go away and leave us alone.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:36 pm 
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we mongers like weak women who can't call the shots


You used the word "weak", not with reference to latinas, but women in general. But the clear inference here is you find foreign women weak. You say not to dwell on the word, but the idea. Okay. The nice thing about this board is we all can make whatever claim we want. It doesn't make it right, but that's what an open forum is all about. Blanket generalizations about what guys want is not helpful, but that's clearly not the intent of your assertions. You can say with certainty you like weak women because you know yourself, but then it appears you're settling for second best. Are you?

I stand corrected. You didn't say gringas were bitches. But by stating you hold no ill feelings toward gringas and would want your daughter to not only be like a gringa, but be the most powerful woman on the earth - or the "Queen Gringa" in all the land - most would interpret that to mean the top "bitch." Powerful women don't have to be bitches, just as powerful men don't need to be dicks. But too often they are.

I don't think gringas need to be powerful to be bitches. I think many find ways to be bitches just fine - with no help. Society, the culture, genetics - all take care of the "bitch" factor handily in American women. Add power to it, and you have a loose cannon. It's just a matter of time before she goes off on you like the 4th of July on a bad day.

Like I said, your daughter is going to be who she wants to be. And we're going to run from gringas every micro-second possible. I think you would agree those are easy concepts to follow.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:36 pm 
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In other words,

Liar liar pants on fire.

Now please go away and focus on some real and serious social issues.

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I hereby retract my retraction because Bang Bang 57 was mis quoted in your falsification of posting.

You remain a Liar for eternity not to be trusted.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:14 pm 
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Jazz Musician wrote:
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They've tried them and found them to be greedy, or vain to a fault, or not passionate, self-absorbed, power hungry, moralistic, use sex as a weapon, and the list goes on. Of course, there are exceptions.



These are some of the reasons I wish my daughter was more like "Latinas", not just the putas. Putas and Latinas in general are much more passionate, romantic, caring, loving, generous, understanding, and much more feminine. Gringas for the most part have regretfully lost these traits. I did not mean to imply that I wish she had become a puta, thou I personally do not have a problem with any chica that has chosen that profession as a means to improve her life.

The statement "and are condemned for what they do" was most certainly mine. What I should have said , and what I meant was "and are condemned BY SOME for what they do". Also if you are going to quote, do so in a way that does not alter the meaning or intent. THE REST OF THE SENTENCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR QUOTE. "INCLUDING SOME WHO USE THEM".

My personal opinion is that you sir (D2864) are here for the sole purpose of starting an argument, and that you have no info nor opinions of any real value to offer to this board. Sadly there seems to be a number of people here lately who seem to be determined to cause friction. I wish we could ALL learn to disagree without being disrespectful and hateful, and with some degree of friendship towards our fellow comrades in mongering.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:51 am 
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I hereby retract my retraction because Bang Bang 57 was mis quoted in your falsification of posting.

You remain a Liar for eternity not to be trusted.


Triple, read what bang bang said, the way I quoted him does not change anything. He said what he said. Actually, my quoted text was very tame when compared to the whole post.
BangBang57 wrote:
To be honest, I wish she had turned out more like the putas in many ways..............

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They provide a much needed service, endure a lot of crap and mistreatment, and are condemned for what they do


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Damn I am probably going to hate myself for this post!!

I have a daughter, a gringa; and damned if she is not just like her mother(may her sole rest in peace). Do I wish she was more like the chicas (putas) I know in CR? In many ways, Hell yes!! in all ways, NO!! I raised her to be open minded about all things especially sexual relations. Did she turn out that way? Hell no!! She listened to her mother. She is a beautiful 41 yo (looks 30), teacher, more dedicated to her profession than to her husband, a prude, a religious fanatic, lets my 7yo granddaughter run over her, but not her husband. knows ALL the answers to life, religion, marriage, sexual relations, and above all, politics. In facts she is everything I hated in her mother and in gringas in general.

Would I want her to be a puta? Probably not, but I really do not like what she is either! Do I think about her when I am with a puta? Only if asked about my family by the chica! Do I worry about what she would think Of "dear old dad" plucking young putas? She knows I pluck young chicas all the time and does not like it--so what?? It is my life. And at 66, I think I have earned the right to do what I damn well please

To be honest, I wish she had turned out more like the putas in many ways; and if she had become a puta, that would have been her own FREE CHOISE just as it is with the chicas here. I do not look down on, nor degrade, nor belittle the chicas here, or anywhere, who work in the worlds oldest profession. They provide a much needed service, indure a lot of crap and mistreatment, and are condemned for what they do, sometimes by the very people who use them. Many are like a daughter, OK! granddaughter, to me and I love them just as much as if they were really my granddaughters, and I admire them for trying to improve their, and their K*ds, lives.


I'd still like to see the list of ways in which the daughter (a school teacher) would be a better person by having puta characteristics.


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we mongers like weak women who can't call the shots

Jazz, I corrected the above quoted text. It is near the bottom of the first page. It says: Triple, thanks, after your post, I can see that most of my sentences should have begin with "mongers who...... " instead of "we mongers......".

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I stand corrected. You didn't say gringas were bitches. But by stating you hold no ill feelings toward gringas and would want your daughter to not only be like a gringa, but be the most powerful woman on the earth - or the "Queen Gringa" in all the land - most would interpret that to mean the top "bitch." Powerful women don't have to be bitches, just as powerful men don't need to be dicks. But too often they are.

I don't interpret that to mean top bitch In my world, women who are educated and can support themselves can walk away from a relationship gone bad. I wouldn't want my daughter to have to take any shit so I'd do my best to educate her so that she can support herself instead of being stuck with few options. I don't agree with "But too often they are," but YMMV.

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I don't think gringas need to be powerful to be bitches. I think many find ways to be bitches just fine - with no help.
What percentage over 30 are bitches?

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Society, the culture, genetics - all take care of the "bitch" factor handily in American women.
I'm sorry, but I think you missed another post. I said.... The gringa attitude isn't unique to American women. Where opportunity exists for women, they are most likely to have an equal say in what's going on and so that can also be construed as being a bitch. The construed bitch attitude is world wide.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:57 am 
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You and your posts are competely suspect.

Your rush to post only adds to my / our suspicion of the validity of your posts, sir.

Again, please go away peacefully.

We do not trust you, your posts, your perspective, nor accept your position as valid.


I have over a 1100 posts, not 22 posts. I admit that I don't always say what is popular to fit into any niche group on here. That might be because I'm a monger who simply likes cheap pu*sy and a good time while out of town - let loose. I'm not into mongering, because I hate gringas, not into mongering because I think gringas are bitches, not into mongering because I like hanging out at bars, not into mongering because I like to drink lots of alcohol and party all night long. I'm in it purely for a good time and cheap pu*sy, nothing more so my take on things may be a lot different (YMMV).

The gentlemen here often speak of having an open mind, however as soon as subjects come up that aren't the norm (here is the norm: https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24404) a few select individuals attempt to run the person away. Shame! There is no if, ands or buts about having an open mind so don't attempt to defend trying to run me off. You should either debate the idea with respect or let it go because my posts do not have to be read or responded to.


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I'd still like to see the list of ways in which the daughter (a school teacher) would be a better person by having puta characteristics.


READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF MY LAST POST :roll: :idea: :idea:

AND THIS IS MY LAST POST ON THIS THREAD!! :!: some people are hopeless, and I will not continue to participate in this stupid debate.

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The thrust of your statement seems to be gringas are strong and "right" and foreign women are weak and "wrong." Perhaps you didn't mean it that way, or perhaps you did. But that's how it sounds. You also make it sound like a girl getting on her knees for you is a bad thing. Maybe you're one hell of a guy and any gringa who wouldn't want to shove your dong down her throat is full of shit. Is that even remotely possible in your mind?

It's very difficult to shed the "gringa setting the standards" mentality. We're all a product of our society, and even with the abuse men have endured with frigid, self-agrandizing, greedy gringas, there is still a desire for their approval. But dig a little deeper and you find the time spent on the average gringa is simply not worth it. When you live in Rio and other latin destinations, you come to understand these girls better. They're not a bunch of weak, desperate girls as your premise suggests. Some are, some aren't. Some p4p, some don't. Rather, they're quite genuine and much less desperate and greedy than many gringas some of us (ironically) have put in charge of our value as men.

What this discussion misses is how little influence we have on the directions our Ch*ldren take. Yes, we have some. I'd like to take full credit for the success my son enjoys, but I know it's his accomplishment - not mine. Had he turned out differently and been a problem Ch*ld and troubled adult, I would hope I would feel the same - that it was about choices he made in his life.

I have no daughter but if I did I would not want to fill her head with how women are "supposed to be and act." Nor would I want to pressure her to be a successful professional, a libber, a traditional mother, or a wife. Personal fulfillment takes many forms amd a parent leads by example. That's about all you can do, along with throwing in a healthy dose of love.

The latin girl I'm with now never turned a trick in her life. Weak? Hardly. She'd make many of the princesses in the States appear like the phonies they are, living off mom and dad through their college years, then their boyfriends and husbands. She lost her father at 7 and mother at 15, and it's been a solo act since.

She's 33.

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The gentlemen here often speak of having an open mind, however as soon as subjects come up that aren't the norm (here is the norm: https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24404) a few select individuals attempt to run the person away. Shame! There is no if, ands or buts about having an open mind so don't attempt to defend trying to run me off. You should either debate the idea with respect or let it go because my posts do not have to be read or responded to.


Many here enjoy the attempt to censor the opinions of others. Why they cannot muster the ability to "change the channel" I will never figure out. :D

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The thrust of your statement seems to be gringas are strong and "right" and foreign women are weak and "wrong." Perhaps you didn't mean it that way, or perhaps you did. But that's how it sounds.
Where did I say without any restriction that foreign women are weak and "wrong." Please don't say "foreign women," because that is a very wide scope. In my posts, I said "I never said Latinas were weak, I'm sorry if I didn't say it clear enough, I probably didn't, but what I eluded to a few times are the women we are tapping. Those women are for the most part hookers and if not hookers, they are usually poor with little education and hoping for a bonus of some type by associating themselves with a foreigner who in their eyes are rich."

Those are the women I'm speaking of, not all foreign women. I'm not sure how this can be expanded to all foreign women. Not all are weak and wrong, because there is always that 1 exception. I honestly think "most," but YMMV.

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It's very difficult to shed the "gringa setting the standards" mentality. We're all a product of our society, and even with the abuse men have endured with frigid, self-agrandizing, greedy gringas, there is still a desire for their approval. But dig a little deeper and you find the time spent on the average gringa is simply not worth it. When you live in Rio and other latin destinations, you come to understand these girls better. They're not a bunch of weak, desperate girls as your premise suggests. Some are, some aren't. Some p4p, some don't. Rather, they're quite genuine and much less desperate and greedy than many gringas some of us (ironically) have put in charge of our value as men.
YMMV and perception varies widely.

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What this discussion misses is how little influence we have on the directions our Ch*ldren take.
Very true.

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I have no daughter but if I did I would not want to fill her head with how women are "supposed to be and act."
Me either. I'd just do everything possible to give her a great education, the foundation of success and establishing one's independence so that she can call her own shots in this world.


Thanks Jazz for a calm debate without name calling or anger. More people should follow your lead.


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Being a man there is no way I could teach my daughters what it means to be a woman.

My job as a male (father), for my daughters, was to present the best possible male role model that I could. After the failure of my marriage, I chose not to date for 10 years so I would not be bringing women through their lives, and they would not feel that my love was divided. Did it work, who knows, but I feel good for having done it?

Once the girls were raised, I have very little influence on how they react to the scenarios that will unfold in their lives. Once I let go of attempting to control their lives as adults, there was much less stress in my life.

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