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YO Pops: Pitiful doesn't even scratch the surface.

You miserable Phucker. Again, you denigrate the Circus name by posting such bullshit. Come to grips with it old fart and realize that no two legged creature in their right mind would ever be your "Novia." Lord knows what mom was thinking when she hooked up with your lowly ass.

Tman, Pidd and Don Papi were right on in directing you to a cattle or what ever four legged auction there was in Liberia. I've seen you with some real fat ugly creatures....come to think of it, one that tops the scale at about 1,200 lbs might just be your forte.

Yeah, grand dad told me that ever since your being raised on the farm in Georgia that you were "just not right." You're disgusting.

Have a nice day if you can find one.
CTY

I agree that it IS possible for US to find that kind of balance, but it is rare indeed to find a partner who will not see such activity as infidelity and refuse to tolerate it. Props to you mi amigo for being one in perhaps 10,000 to have achieved this.



Yeap, sure it gets hollow. Especially in my early trips, I found myself kind of playing a game of "how can I top that last awesome group phuckathon spectacular" to keep things interesting. More recently, it's been nice to actually click on a personal level with a few chicas here and there and spend extended time with them hanging out, going to dance clubs, gambling, going to their casas, etc. But in either case, haven't you ever wanted to star in your own porn flick?



I've tried that route as well, but perhaps it was unrealistic to think it could work long-term with such a vast age difference between us (27 years in this case). But in reality, even with a "regular" Latina hottie that much my junior, I would still get tired of phucking the same girl all the time. I simply must have variety - I believe it's part of our male evolutionary heritage, and I'm not going to bother trying to fight it anymore - even if that means sacrificing the opportunity to realize a loving relationship in the bargain. Again, props to you for managing to find that delicate balance between the two impulses.

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First thing I want to say is: Tman - Right On. Since I am not so much of a novice anymore after some years experience in CR I can absolutely concur with his insight into the culture. And yeah two people one male and one female with a special connection in this whole wide world – priceless.

Gonna tell a story which I wasn’t going to say anything about till the one year anniversary in April to give it some credibility. I’ve been tempted to every time I read a bunch of negative crap about relationships but held off posting. For my friend Paco I’ll jump the gun a little especially since she and I just got back from the beach Pac-man has seen us together and ya it is still good and we had an amazing time in Tambor this last weekend at the Tropcal.

Her: Ten years younger than I at 42 and yes I met her in the Del Rey. Little tiny family – two good k*ds early twenty’s both work regular jobs. An Old Ma getting up in years; and the little grand daughter which is the apple of my significant others’ (SO) eye. Other family scattered around Guanacaste but not really in the picture except holidays which I don’t participate much since I am such a Grinch I just throw a little money to buy penance. So the family is a compact unit living in Alajuela – easy enough for me to contribute to support. She goes back and forth to my apt. on the bus not thinking twice. My SO wouldn’t be a candidate for TOM but due to her personality has had a successful career. Now, old enough to be thankful to get out of the occupation; young enough that I don’t need extra vitamins to have great times with her in the sack. Importantly: Old enough that I don’t feel like such an old whoremonger when we go out in public - which I have always hated. After almost a year I know her to be a fine individual, feminine, intelligent and tough as a head of household. And yeah a pain in the ass sometimes due to those virtues I am thinking fondly now as I type this.

I like her, a lot. Enough to commit resources to ensure that she has a good life what ever I decide to do or end up. The love part is still developing let’s see. As frustrating as she can be and as beautiful as other chicas can smile at me I don’t want to lose her.

Me: I spend about half the year now in CR and don’t get me wrong I still go to the Del Rey, which establishment I will give credit for many good memories over four years or so. I am fortunate to have been able to sample many of the forbidden fruits over these years and have had a literal ball. The last couple of those years I have had the proverbial yearning for something more intimate. Plus my aging libido contributing some issues like hardly (sic) being able to maintain woodys with a condom on - which I don’t really want to start with the magic vitamins just to be able to do. A non-issue with this SO, she light the old fire so to speak, every time.

Us: I contribute about $600 a month to the family, more or less depending on circumstances, which is less than I drink and smoke per month. A decent wage for her combined with the k*ds income, she can run her house and concentrate on rearing and educating the little one. Whenever I want space all I have to do is say so, way worth maintaining two households. We have a routine which is a joy for me – we can set up or break my camp in CR in like a half hour. When I am in the states I check in a couple times a day which also brings me joy.

Ya we argue about shit and have issues but I usually win . Good luck with gringas on that score.

She is included in my will and in my group health insurance policy in CR (though they are all covered by the CAJA). We have talked about the customary ‘otra novias’ which at some point I am going to partake just because I can but I really haven’t felt the need to yet. I have no illusions about ‘importing’ her to the US. She would be miserable away from the little one and I need to work when I am home.

Did I mention I’m pretty happy with this set-up? Paco I had to rush a little writing down these thoughts hope it doesn’t come off like too much of a Ramble…

Hey Novice thanks for the great post and finally telling your tale, I remember encouraging you to post your experience last time we were in the BM together, eyeballing the hot spinners.
From my original post I really was hoping to hear from some of the M-men about their relationship dynamics but really didn't think many would post anything for fear of being ridiculed like VB mentioned. Sure there are guys that need a reality-check occasionally, those that have fallen to "sucker status" into the fantasy, being lied to while blowing loads of cash on their newfound loves. But there are obviously others around here that have set the terms and taken things to a whole different level, are making it work and currently happy with it.
I think guys with novias make up a substantial part of the forum these days but they rarely mention it, I can probably name a dozen members off the top of my head currently in some type of relationship with a CR chica. More of us will get burned out, bored, or feel unfulfilled after a few years and probably pursue something different. GetRhythym seems to have come full circle and may end up with a novia that will be cool with him screwing every other chica in sight.
A few of you have obviously answered my question (though at first I wasn't really sure what the question was) and proved it is at least possible to have my cake and eat it too when it comes to the novia-scene, thanks for posting. You guys have also accomplished something that looks very difficult and maybe even confusing to the normal monger. Of course I assume that from the start in your relationships- being in charge, setting rules & boundaries and not being weak is a must, but are your successes also because of your skills, charm and mastery over women or did you bastards just got lucky and stumble across the right one and things just kind of fell into place?

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Paco,

I guess I'll post my story in a little more detail. This month marks the end of my second year of travels to CR. I've been reflecting backwards and questioning how travels to CR and other countries have impacted my life and future. I still don't have an answer. The thing that I'm sure about is that I'm no longer pursing the American dream with a house in the burbs, a boring job and 2.5 K*ds.

During my first year, I was a true whore monger. On my trips, I would easily screw two to three chicas per day, and I was happy with it. I could not see the need for anything more. I was tired of the hot and heavy relationships in the US and wanted freedom. I wanted promiscuity and the naughtier, the better. I had some great experiences sexual and non-sexual with prostitutes that I will probably always remember in a positive light.

However, towards the end of the year, I began feeling a little burnt out and jaded. To be honest, part of it was that I was just tired of fishing out of the same pond. I was tired of seeing attractive girls whither away from greed and the game. The really fresh and new chicas seem to age and harden quickly. The other part, was the fantasy completely wore off. I began viewing these chicas as nothing more than human slot machines. You put money in it, pull the bar, and sometimes the outcome is good, but usually it is not so good. By outcome, I'm not talking about anything more than GREAT SEX, mutual respect and good times. I ABSOLUTELY was not looking for love in prostitutes.... just good sex and light companionship.

What I learned is that mutual respect is not attainable, when it is pay for play. They viewed me as an object and nothing more than an income source. I never really had problems getting laid without paying for it, so the novelty slowly weared off. Shit - in some cases - I was just happy she didn't rob me. Don't get me wrong - I still monger - but I just don't have a crazy drive to bang chicas all the time. Outside of sex with my girlfriend, I think I truly monger maybe once a month.

In the past year, I've tried to not "actively" participate in the P4P scene in CR. I'll usually pop my head into the SL or DR maybe once a week. It is usually just purely for social purposes. I no longer go with the ultimate objective of landed a good deal with a hot chica. I spend most of my time hunting for chicas outside of the gulch, because I truly enjoy more of a challenge. Currently, I'm dating a Nica who I met in Escazu, who has a normal job. She comes with her own set of challenges, but beats my experiences with prostitutes by a good factor. The greatest thing about it - she is cool with me phucking other chicas and doesn't seem to have a problem. She is actually curious about a second chica in bed - and thats about where I am now. I have found a non-hooking novia in CR, who doesn't get hung up about me paying for sex in strip bars and such. If she found out it was anything more, then I'm certain she would be pissed. My next hurdel, is I need to be prepared for it to go both ways. If she allows me to screw girls on the side, I need to be ready for her to reciprocate. I hope I am man enough to keep that in perspective.

My final thoughts on this are that if you are looking for anything beyond money for sex, forget about prostitutes. If they give you a freebie or a week of freebies, there is always a hidden agenda. If I'm in town, I can show better hunting grounds for chicas OUTSIDE of the gulch. I know there are other guys on the board that hunt in the same areas in greater SJ. Ask around and you will find a wingman.

One more thing... I strongly encourage everyone to travel to other countries to explore differing mongering scenes. It will absolutely provide you with needed perspective on the small pond in CR. Don't get me wrong... I love CR and I love latinas. But, you should try exploring places in Asia, if you are looking for true companionship. Asian gals are not sexier than latinas, but make much better novia material.

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Good stuff Chi I wish I would have learned the joys of traveling when I was more your age rather than waiting almost a half century. It changes you and gives you other perspectives. I think the reason a lot of Europeans are more open minded than US is that they travel as part of their culture. At this point in my life I don’t see myself going to Asia but rather learn more about my winter homeland, language and all.

I think I had a combination of luck, plus putting in the time looking for I wasn’t sure what. I happened to find a more mature campesina, a country girl which makes a big difference I believe. What Tman said about Latinas being built for domesticity is true. My SO has one mission in life: that her family, which I am part of in my way - is provided for, period. She could care less about Stuff. I forgot to mention before that she treats me like the proverbial king: Meals cooked, Dishes washed Clothes washed Dirty socks picked up off the floor House cleaned ect. ect. Never a peep of a complaint, never.

It is amazing how they separate sex and love. Ask any Latina what is the most important thing to them in a relationship and the answer is invariable going to be: Respect. Which, I am learning is not necessarily the same thing as monogamy. Being out and about with her is so much fun – we spy out pretty grrls and discuss the particular merits of this ones tits or that ones ass. I have never had that before. I am still discovering the logistics but I think it is a Don’t Ask Don’t Tell sorta thing. I know they tend to be jealous but I think fidelity means something different to them than how most of us were brought up.

An example: This last several days I have been all horned-up since the trip to the beach which is not really like me. It was a cool getaway, I think the ocean air does something to you. Anyway she has family shit to do this week and has to hang around her house. Yesterday morning before she left she directly and simply told me that if I needed some – go for it. I think where I would run into trouble is blatantly blowing her off to be with someone else, or being stupid to the point of leaving a bunch of evidence lying around. The respect thing, and it might be something different than you think.

Oh ya Paco you are right about not being weak. She and I butt heads sometimes because she is so used to being head of the house, she starts bossing me around. Phuck that the more firmly I put that attitude down the more she seems to respect my wishes. I would never try to tell her how to run her family or her house. But for my life and what I want, ya you are expected to be the boss and they will test you.

It’s all actually pretty cool, I think. Works for me in this moment in time anyway.

Paco asked

Yep...thats about how it happens

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While my CR experience is only two years old.....I have gained considerable knowledge. Many of the CRT regulars have "Novias" or at least a favorite that they hide their other activities from........

Most either get tired of the P4P thing or find that fantasy girl and desire a long term relationship. The first time I heard my favorite say Novio was to one of her friends while talking on the phone as we were traveling to Jaco.

For me....its lasted a year. It seems better every time I'm in country. Either shes for real or a whole lot of people are pulling a big scam.....As with anything, enjoy today....tomorrow is another adventure....

CRT Boys,

The darn answer is right in front of you. Get yourself a bi-wingchica and get ready for the good times. She won't care how many girls you bring home as long as she gets in on the action.

The only problemo I had with my wingchica is that she sometimes invites too many friends. I once found myself herding about 5 girls through a shopping mall, museum, and a park. I felt like a rooster herding his flock around. Pain in the ass - indeed!

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Since May of last year, I've had a novia. I didn't intend to come to CR to meet somebody, it just happened. You meet somebody and you click, it's hard to explain it until it happens to you. (BTW, I know some of the cynics may be wondering, so I'll tell, I don't send money, and I haven't received any RFM's for that matter either, not once. Contrary to what some may think, it's not always just about the money. I'm not supporting her, I'm not her gringo ATM.)

I'm being very careful in how I do things because of what I read here about the horror stories, but I'm not worried.

It works for us, we're both happy. Besides my novia, she's my best friend. We go to strip clubs and BB to look at chicas. I don't want a different girl every day. Besides, we play with other chicks (and I have pics to prove it.)

Berk2302 / PacoLoco

Guess what I got today? An e-mail from the real estate agent/whatever. Does this mean I can call her my novia? So you see PacoLoco even I can do it so you must be able to. You guys were making me feel very shallow with this serious discussion but now I feel good about myself again.

Lee

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I know what this thread is...It's the reincarnation of Hands Solo,and his MMen movement. I think Handy paid Paco to start thr whole thing all over again under a different heading.Perhaps we could have a new description of these chicas. Instead of "novia" or "favorita",we could take a page from medical terms and call the relationship a CPR for "close personal relationship". I'm not saying that you will need cardiac help after the chica is done with you.lol Remember I am NOT against having a monogomous relationship. I just like having several simultaniously.

Handy deja-vu!? At least you and Latinoheat will have something to talk about when he's down there in a couple weeks soaking in your jacuzzi with you. Speaking of M-men good luck trying to get him to spend his week with more than his one low-budget chica.
Well what can I say, the gulch is losing it's sparkle for me like it has for many others so maybe it's time to try either a new destination or some different snapper-fishing techniques. But then again VB maybe you can change my mind by hooking me up with some more of your recommended sweet, young, high performance spinners, I do still need to do that threesome with you-know-who before I become an M-man or find my bi-wingchica.

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I understand that many guys on the board consider their regular chicas, who they met in the act of prostitution, to be novias and either part-timers or retired.

Keep in mind... if you met them under P4P conditions... regardless of whether you are sending money... they are most certainly banging other guys... and probably for money. Some chicas also prostitute themselves, at deep discount, in their local neighborhoods. You may also be on their list of "good paying clients."

I feel like a broken record when I say that most of these girls are attached to locals as either girlfriends or spouses. I see them in local bars all the time. I'm willing to venture that 80-90% are hitched to someone local either sexually or through marriage.

Sorry to dampen the thread... but to me... the concept of novia and prostitute don't mix.

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