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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:58 pm 
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Why do you care, I've seen her and don't think she is anything special.
She's got 2 jobs, works hard, speaks english, is pleasant; but is overweight and for $'s she will do anyone. Point is she was never your novia.
Write me I'll be happy to give many chicas that are pretty and nice and would like a novio, I'm not pulling your leg, you can ask RBC100 about me.
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Mas Chicas.....who the hell are you talking about or did you mean to post on another thread????


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Twarag ... reading it I am sure he is posting here on this topic. Either an April fool or time to sit back with some popcorn and an Imperial and watch the fireworks


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So, Mas Chicas, if you really feel that way about her why did you bother telling her those lies about Ruffnutz?


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Seriously, I think most of these chicas thrive on jealousy and drama anyway. If some dickhead hadn't given her some BS to be worried about she probably would have found some other reason to be jealous eventually anyway. This is why I pay for the ILLUSION of romance and just enjoy the ride as long as I can rather than delude myself that I'll be the lucky one to overcome the great odds going against such long term cross-cultural cross-generational cross-socio-economic relationships. But thats just my own opinion. YMMV.

That said. I still sympathize with Ruff. Whether or not we feel such relationships are realistic or not in no way justifies anyone deliberately phucking around with the relationship of someone who does. Even if we think it isn't going to work that relationship is that monger's business and not anyone else's. Others should just let it succeed or fail on its own and not give it a push in the wrong direction.

There is a lot of talk around here about some noble brotherhood of gentleman and that may have been true at one point. But CRT has grown too large and well-known for that to really exist anymore. There are certainly guys here who take that brotherhood seriously and care about the friends they've made down there and here on the board. But I'm sure there are plenty of others who came here just to harvest whatever free info they could and just moved on. Of the 6500 members over 70% just lurk or at least have never posted anything or shared any personal info of their own or info of any kind for that matter. Close to 90% have less than 10 posts. Whoever did this might be someone we know, but the odds are just as good or better that it isn't and that we will never really find out who it is. Other guys join here just so they can take advantage of the discounts. As someone said paying the membership may entitle anyone to that but that doesn't mean their membership will mean anything more to them than that. I became a VIP on this board because I believed in what it represented. Sure the group discounts were nice too, but that wasn't what it was all about. I remember the old board which degenerated into a lot of flaming, backstabbing and bitter feelings. Nothing like that has happened here, but this board started out as something much above that. A place where everyone acted civilly with each other both on the board and off, regarded and treated the women with the basic dignity and respect they deserve as human beings and where there was a real sense of community. In short something that made us special and a cut above other similar boards. As we've grown larger, while we still have much of that by most of the active members, a peice of that has definitely been lost. Its unfortunate, but its also somewhat inevitable as the board has grown.

This is going a bit off-topic but I think it should also be said that the changes on the part of some of our members, particularly the unknown ones lurking in the background, is a reflection of larger changes that are going on through-out the mongering scene in CR. The awareness of CR as a "mongering" destination has grown not just among veteran international "mongerers" but amongst guys who are new to the hobby and are less familiar with our social mores. You see this in the behavior of many of the guys who come down to check out the BM.

But you also see this increasingly in other venues. The growing popularity of the SL has reached the point that it is no longer just a core group of CRT vets staying there or guys who understand the no cien credo and increasing asking prices are the result. Let's hope that is not a trend that takes hold.

I think it was probably as much increasing incidents of arrogant its-our-area-to-do-as-we-please attitude accompanied with loud obnoxious drunken ugly-gringo behavior as it was the increasing non-monger business at the Prez which led them to institute their new policy which all monger guests there are now suffering for. Hopefully, they weren't referring to any CRT'ers, but nowadays you never know. If a CRT'er could do this to Ruff, anything is possible. We all need to recognize that, right or wrong, many don't approve of what we do and we're beholden to act with some reasonable level of discretion or at least not rub what we do in the faces of the morally prudish. Some guys take a screw-you attitude towards disapproving gringas they run into in the Gulch, but I don't see that accomplishing anything positive. Just like not overpaying or overtipping or posting photos against the wishes of the girls in them or many other things, this is not just a matter of personal choice but behaviors that we all ultimately pay for.


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I'm curious to know the numbers. I read all the time about the guy making the big jump to dating instead of mongering. Let's here from all the guys who have done it. And tell which ones worked out and which didin't. I'm betting on one side but I won't say until later.


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Prolijo:
Although you make some good points I have to disagree with you. Although we have lost some of the close camaraderie that existed when there were only 30 active members from way back when, I don’t think that considering the growth amount of members now that we have now we have done a bad job at all.

For the most part there is still a close brotherhood of gentlemen and the old friends from the old days still remain but we have evolved into a place that thousands of people from all walks of life have found common ground in what we like to do and never feel alone in a foreign country. Who knows how many lasting friendships have been born via CRT, but I can tell you I have met and become very close with many members that I would not have met otherwise. I am sure this is a very common theme and one that should paramount when looking at the overall picture.

I believe that many of our members or shall I say the majority of members still conduct themselves with class & dignity. It’s demonstrated at our various events; get together, happy hours, as well as the willingness of the older veterans to assist the new blood with even the most mundane of questions.

You hear countless stories of 1st time travelers and their good times that they had after meeting up with fellow CRT members. You hear heartfelt thoughts and suggestions from our members when a thread like this occurs. You feel the best wishes of our members towards others who are in times of crisis health, heartache or otherwise.

I personally have noticed some long standing members no longer wanting to participate. For whatever their reasons may it is they long for the old days when our destination was not so popular and our numbers no so large who knows. Bottom line here is times change, we have evolved, we have adjusted, and I full wish to provide a place that we all can continue to feel like a brotherhood of gentlemen regardless of the size.

As far as the person who caused this for Ruff, or some of the comments that were made in the poorest of manner, well, whoever that person or persons are if they have to reach to these debts to make themselves feel important than I fell sorry for them, but they are not welcome here.

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There is a bigger underlying message here for all to see & learn from. You can see the problems GR & RN are having with dating Latinas on the parameter of the gulch. It is a natural state of things to occur this way as we monger on we are in a natural state of love & lust amongst many other confused emotional feelings that distort normal good judgment especially if you tend to be the M-man type so when in this heighten state we naturally look at what is around & want to get involved. Even if we find a non P4P type working at the desk of the hotel etc. they are simply to close to the gulch & other mongers so expect tons of drama & more headaches than going out & meeting a Latina that knows little to nothing about the gulch. Some friends I have love all this drama but if you are not that type I would find one way away from the gulch if you want something more fulfilling than P4P. :P

I have found so many non P4P types around the gulch that are way to affected by what they see daily for it to be good for a lasting relationship. These Latinas see how men truly can be & will never be as trusting one would think?? Everybody should do what is right for them but it is obvious the gulch has many hidden surprises as the poison creeps into everyone’s veins! :evil:

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Ruff- too many posts for me to read so.....
My take is that I had a similiar problem last year with another chica and a CRT guy.He posted some outregeous things that really pissed me off. The short story is...... now I consider him a good friend.
The bottom line is- we are all assholes at sometime. Maybe it is jealousy or penis envy- who knows?????
Just hang with positive CRTers who want to have fun and phuck the rest of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mas chicas wrote:
Why do you care, I've seen her and don't think she is anything special. She's got 2 jobs, works hard, speaks english, is pleasant; but is overweight and for $'s she will do anyone. Point is she was never your novia.

Mas chicas,
This is written in extremely poor taste. Do yourself a favor, and delete your post. It is bullsh*t, and completely un-called for. :evil:

I guess we found out who our snake is....

Mucho Gusto :evil: :evil: :evil:

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I agree with what Admin 1 wrote and I'd like to add something.

I haven't met that many CRT's so far, but I have to say that everybody I have met has conducted themselves as a gentleman and represented CRT in a proper way. I have made several good friendship along the way too, something that undoubtedly would never had happened had it not been for CRT. For reasons of distance, we cannot hang out or meet up more often, but I still consider them good friends, you know who you are.

As far as the changes taking place in CR as a mongering destination, and increases in size of CRT, change is inevitable. It's an old cliché, but it's so true. And if you don't change with it, it will run you over. Those who left CRT because it got "too big" or because CR is now "too well-known" are basically delusional if they thought it would stay one way forever. I do believe that a strong camaraderie still exists between members.

In regards to the main subject of this tread, I think it's just pathetic to try to make yourself look better by putting down another guy, whether it's to a working girl or not. It shows insecurities and low self-esteem. Have some dignity and self-respect dude, whoever you are.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:21 am 
Great posts! It is so very nice to read all of the honest feelings of the membership. I often think, because the camaraderie is so tight here, that members aren't exactly honest with each other on these sensitive subjects due to being afraid of hurting a friend's feelings. It is a joy to read so many posts with real genuine feelings yet written by all (except one) in a very gentle way.

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Orange, et al....

I want to clear something up. Based upon your post Orange, you seem to think the woman in question is p4p. I assure you, she is not, although she works in hospitality close to the scene and is very aware of it. Just so new members reading this will not be mistaken, the couple affected by the thoughtless snake is a former rockstar monger and a non-pro.

Mas Chicas... nice April Fool's joke, as*hole. Now one question: Were you talking about RN's novia or your own mother? Sensitive, you ain't. :mad:

Zippy, your comments as always cut right to the core of the matter, as do the comments of Prolijo. It is a fact that the women who work in the Gulch outside the oldest profession are very aware of it and very suspiscious of the gringos they encounter during their workday.

I will stand by the Gentlemen's Code I suggested months ago, and hope that someone will find the thread and revive it for new members. Beyond any sort of CRT "code of honor," the guy who told tales out of school to Ruff's novia violated another code, "the guy code."

You know the Guy Code: You don't screw a brother's sister/wife/girlfriend/Mom without his permission. You don't coc-k-block him, you don't steal from him and you sure as funk don't go behind his back to his girlfriend of nearly 9 months and shit on his reputation. The "we're getting bigger and new members don't know how we act around here" excuse doesn't cut it for me; one is either a good man or one is not. The winking sphincter who trashed RN to his novia is not a good man.

Hey, it's Sunday and I felt like making a sermon. :oops: Let's revive the Gentleman's Code one more time, make it a sticky in the Newbie's section and encourage our new members to play by some basic rules of decency. :idea:

You'll notice that Ruff hasn't yet responded to this thread. Perhaps we should let it cool and wait for his response? That is, if he's ever coming back into the fold. :cry:

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Mas Chicas, The only good thing about your classless post is that you are not a VIP member. Only a complete a** would hit a guy when he is down with attacks on his girl. Nice work, hope we can return the favor some day.

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Ruff, Fisrt of all I sypathize with your situation and wish you the best on working it out as I sense you really care for the lady.
I would also like to qualify the mention of my name in a post above where my name was mentioned by Mas Chicas. First I know nothing about this situation with you lady. I have corresponded with the poster in the past and met for a drink last trip.He seemed like a good guy but not a person I know well.He also said he was having good luck with nonpros and I believe that was likely true as he has a good game.I closing I would add I found the post in poor taste and would prefer not to be associated with it. Good Luck.rbc100

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Question? Did she know before this incident that she had been mentioned on the board? I believe that nothing bad was said, but maybe she also didn't like the public knowledge of her life on a message board.


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