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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:16 pm 
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The system in Costa Rica is not extremely different than areas in the United States. Not too long ago you could be arrested and held for suspicion of having committed a crime. The system had a set time to charge you or let you go. I am familiar with the system in Georgia. Upon arrest the suspect is required to be presented in front of a magistrate within 72 hours who determines if the subject should be held, granted bond, tried on the spot for a local offense or transferred to the county system. At the county level the subjects case is also presented to a judge who decides if the subject should be held or granted bond at that level. The county district attorney then has a set amount of time in order to put the case together and present the case to the county grand jury. There is more urgency placed on putting the case together for grand jury consideration if the person is still incarcerated. If the grand Jury finds probable cause for prosecution, an indictment (formal charges) are issued and the case is put on the calendar. It is not unusual for cases to take many months to go to trial with delays by both the prosecution and the defense. Granting bond is a decision made by a judge. One of the variables is does the subject pose a flight risk. I know what I would do if I was him and they let me out.

Remember, freedom of speech has it's limits. Yell fire in a crowded theater and see if that is covered. Just say the word bomb on an airline and see how fast they land the plane and let you spend some time explaining photo bomb is not a terrorist threat.

Although we assume that what Dave did was harmless, we have no idea what the actual case they are in the process of developing consists of. Laws differ everywhere you go. In Georgia anyone who can legally own a firearm can transport it legally in their car, exposed or in the glove compartment, loaded. Try that in New York City. Just because you are from Georgia in a car with a Georgia tag doesn't give you the right to violate State of New York Laws. If you go to New York you are expected to acquaint yourself with their laws and abide by them.

Sometimes laws seem oppressive to us. There are good and bad laws. I am ashamed to admit that I feel greater freedom in Costa Rica than I do in the United States. Regardless of what laws exist, the degree to which they are enforced is what really affects your freedom. Possession of marijuana is illegal here but few are serving years in prison here for it. Prostitution, gambling and drugs are illegal in the States because they generate big money for some groups and affect the revenue of others. such as the State lotteries, pharmaceutical companies, alcohol and tobacco companies. Remember, the country with the highest percentage of it's population in the world that is currently incarcerated is the United States.


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Hit Cuba and express your thoughts on things and see how that goes
Or maybe Iran and speak your mind
You can't apply what we consider a right to other countries geez

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hless125 wrote:
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Good to hear, but isn't this guy the scumbag that others were complaining of? If so, isn't this more of a 'he beat the system' kind of story?

Also, as the Costa Rican legal system is not built upon the same rock that holds the US legal system, does anyone know if "presumption of innocence" is a part of theirs? I honestly do not know.


Not sure on the first part of your post and for the second:

I have no idea but I would venture a guess of no they don't just based on putting someone in jail while your cops put a case together. Seems backwards to me.



In the USA we call this detention without bail. Usually for major offenses and sufficient evidence that warrants holding someone. In my opinion Dave fits that catagory


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I have no idea but I would venture a guess of no they don't just based on putting someone in jail while your cops put a case together. Seems backwards to me.

We all assume that the world is just like us. If you think 'due process' is inherent in our legal tradition, then explain Guantanamo. Also explain why certain 'detainees' in the US are denied bail.

The purpose of their 'detainment' is obviously to keep dangerous people locked away while the justice system has time to make it permanent. Sure, it sounds screwed up to us, with our bottomless pockets for quick justice legal system ... (yes, that was a joke). But when the alternative is to either just execute them without due process or let them wander the streets while justice slowly turned, then their method sounds acceptable from both the judicial and public safety sides.

And yes, some 'non-violent' people get caught up in the detainment thing too. However, the locals suffer the legal system that they deserve, just like the rest of us. And when someone knowingly travels to a country with more repressive laws than their home nation, they take on the full responsibility of their own safety and situation. I do not cry over the 'tourists' that sneak into North Korea and get caught, anymore than I do for CD and his predicament. He should have known about their detainment policies, and he should have known that, after passing that whack-a-mole law, that he could very well be a target.


IN A WORD "CORRUPTION"

Perhaps being a lawyer you would be better at answering why our criminal justice system and many lawyers and judges are so corrupt. Something tells me as Pops eloquently stated if Dave had money to grease the right people he would probably be out. Everything revolves around the mighty dollar.

The good old buddy system is alive and well in the U.S.

About Guantanamo I have no idea but I suspect 9/11 may have something to do with it. The way you do not cry over tourists who sneak in to North Korea ( by the way most detained arrive there legally ) I do not cry over the terrorists that are housed in Cuba.

By the way I am in complete agreement that Dave screwed up big time and is now paying a very steep price.

Props to POPS who hands down scribes the best reading on this site.



Cuba Dave would not be let out regardless of money. He is a flight risk. Period. He is a tourist, no assets in this country and no reason to return once outside its borders


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Pops wrote:
The system in Costa Rica is not extremely different than areas in the United States. Not too long ago you could be arrested and held for suspicion of having committed a crime. The system had a set time to charge you or let you go. I am familiar with the system in Georgia. Upon arrest the suspect is required to be presented in front of a magistrate within 72 hours who determines if the subject should be held, granted bond, tried on the spot for a local offense or transferred to the county system. At the county level the subjects case is also presented to a judge who decides if the subject should be held or granted bond at that level. The county district attorney then has a set amount of time in order to put the case together and present the case to the county grand jury. There is more urgency placed on putting the case together for grand jury consideration if the person is still incarcerated. If the grand Jury finds probable cause for prosecution, an indictment (formal charges) are issued and the case is put on the calendar. It is not unusual for cases to take many months to go to trial with delays by both the prosecution and the defense. Granting bond is a decision made by a judge. One of the variables is does the subject pose a flight risk. I know what I would do if I was him and they let me out.

Remember, freedom of speech has it's limits. Yell fire in a crowded theater and see if that is covered. Just say the word bomb on an airline and see how fast they land the plane and let you spend some time explaining photo bomb is not a terrorist threat.

Although we assume that what Dave did was harmless, we have no idea what the actual case they are in the process of developing consists of. Laws differ everywhere you go. In Georgia anyone who can legally own a firearm can transport it legally in their car, exposed or in the glove compartment, loaded. Try that in New York City. Just because you are from Georgia in a car with a Georgia tag doesn't give you the right to violate State of New York Laws. If you go to New York you are expected to acquaint yourself with their laws and abide by them.

Sometimes laws seem oppressive to us. There are good and bad laws. I am ashamed to admit that I feel greater freedom in Costa Rica than I do in the United States. Regardless of what laws exist, the degree to which they are enforced is what really affects your freedom. Possession of marijuana is illegal here but few are serving years in prison here for it. Prostitution, gambling and drugs are illegal in the States because they generate big money for some groups and affect the revenue of others. such as the State lotteries, pharmaceutical companies, alcohol and tobacco companies. Remember, the country with the highest percentage of it's population in the world that is currently incarcerated is the United States.


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He has been moved from that prison.....

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Thanks. Good to know that he was transferred.

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The description of the place sounds like a half way house for the elderly...does anyone know where it is, name?


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I wonder if I could pay for Luna to go visit him, I'm sure he is due for an oil change.

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Politicians in Costa Rica Debate Sexual Tourism and Prostitution

By Jaime Lopez – March 20, 2016

The government of Costa Rica has failed to protect victims of sex trafficking who are sometimes forced to become prostitutes for North American and European sexual tourists. Such was the statement presented to the Human Rights Commission of the Legislative Assembly by the Socialist Christian Union (Spanish initials: PUSC), a major political party in Costa Rica that has seen better times.

The Commission has agreed to investigate the claims made by the PUSC
legislators, who claim that the government has barely used the $3 million available to fight human trafficking within the sexual tourism and prostitution sectors of the underground economy.

According to the PUSC legislators, international agencies that investigate human trafficking do not have a clear picture of the situation in Costa Rica because the government is not doing its job insofar as compiling statistics and issuing reports.

Information provided by prosecutors indicate that 23 victims of human trafficking were identified in 2014; 13 of those victims were forced into sex work while the rest were coerced into manual labor.

Over the last two years, The Costa Rica Star has reported on brothel raids conducted by law enforcement agencies. The human trafficking section of the Office of Judicial Investigations (Spanish initials: OIJ) has been involved in these raids; however, the majority have not produced evidence of coercion into sex work.

One of the problems investigators face when looking into human trafficking in the sexual tourism and prostitution sectors of Costa Rica is that they often run into sex workers who are not victims. For example, when OIJ agents evaluate information about a brothel where women from Nicaragua, Panama, Colombia, and the Dominican Republic work as prostitutes, probable cause can be filed before magistrates to obtain a search warrant.

During brothel raids, social workers and psychologists conduct interviews with the purported victims, whom most of the time explain that they came to Costa Rica of their own will to work as prostitutes. At best, OIJ agents are more likely to find evidence of individuals deriving proceeds from prostitution as third parties (better known as “pimping“), which -unlike remunerated consensual sex between adults- is a crime.

They are chipping away in C.R.

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Great News for CD.....all things considered!

Glad he is now in a humane facility. I like the way they said, "a law that makes it illegal to talk about something that is legal." Reminds me of a song......"Down in the Banana Republic" :lol: :roll: :shock:

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I know it sucks for him, but I burst out laughing when I read that posting on his site. It's not funny, but it's fukin' funny, if ya know what I mean.

So, he played the 'elderly' card ... good for him. Though I do find it interesting that whomever is running his site is now pimping out ol' Dave and his story for donations. His attorney got him moved to the 'old folks home', and good job there. But there is no public awareness campaign about CD ... no one except for a handful of hardcore friends care a shit for him ... which is sad in it's own way.

I do hope this 'couple of months' thing is the end for him. Hopefully they let him crawl back home then, and let him write a memoir. I'd love to hear about his 'time served'. I wonder what the other prisoners think about him and his case.

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Hopefully they let him crawl back home then, and let him write a memoir. I'd love to hear about his 'time served'. I wonder what the other prisoners think about him and his case.


If anyone can figure out how to profiteer from the experience it is probably CD.

I could see a made for tv movie or maybe even a musical. I'm wondering who would be good to cast in the lead role?

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Human Rights Commission of the Legislative Assembly by the Socialist Christian Union (Spanish initials: PUSC), ...

...According to the PUSC legislators...

WOW, how that acronym translated!! Classic


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