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 Post subject: Amazing
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:57 pm 
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It is amazing, sad but true. The more aged we get seems the more we realize it really is all about the money. Believe in true love, but only for the young.

So, with that all said go live for the day and fok, fok, fok as many putas as you can and rellish in the glow thinking about all the fat fukin gringas who still keep thinking they all can get a Tom Cruise, George Clooney, Brad Pitt etc. to keep feeding there fat fuking disgusting unhealthy guts.


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 Post subject: todays IM
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:13 am 
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Today she...

(this undefined chica I met 10 years ago, had two Babi*s with, married & divorced her sister with whom I had one Ch*ld all the while continueing an on again off again relationship with said undefined chica)...

...IM'ed me "quiero hacer la ultima en su corazon y la ultima en su cama" I want to be the last in your heart and bed. to which I say, fine but Membership has its privileges and responsibilties.

All the while stumbling about without purpose or direction adrift between dysfunctional relationships on all fronts.


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 Post subject: Re: todays IM
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:58 am 
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All the while stumbling about without purpose or direction adrift between dysfunctional relationships on all fronts.
Are you talking about the chicas or the gringos that love them? :wink: :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:01 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:11 pm 
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Not my quote

This one can be attributed to me "We all carry the bags we have, no matter what country we are in"


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:47 pm 
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Preacher Berk says listen to Frettless...

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I'll tell you about my experience. You can't be pokin' a workin' girl and think you have something, but you can have something if you leave the pokin' out. Does that make sense? Over 2 years ago I met a working chica named "A" and a short time later her amiga "L". I poked "A" 2 times on the same trip when I met her. I never poked "L". But... we became friends and no more pokin'. Even she agrees and so does "L". If you want to reach anything close to a "real" friendship with a working chica you CANNOT mix business with friendship. They work the DR... that's fine. It's their job... and my job is to come to CR and have a little fun... pokin' other chicas that mean nothing no matter how charming they might be. It is ALL AN ACT.... the charm, that is, I promise you. Get to know a working chica and your eyes will be opened to a degree you never thought possible.

So now... I have 2 good Colombian amigas I don't poke. They do know I poke other chicas... like in Zona Blue... I don't hide it and all is well. They don't ask for money or want me to buy them crap. They do that with the other suckers... it's very amusing by the way. They always have a request for Victoria's Secret lotion when I come down... as in next week... and they PAY for what they request. They treat me like a regular person and demonstrate a measure of respect most of you would be shocked to see coming from a working chica who knows the "relationship" is not going to gain them one thin dime.

I tell them not to leave a dime on the table when making a deal with a gringo. They are very good at what they do. In a real friendship, though, they wouldn't consider acting like that. They know it's just a game... their job... and will "use" a gringo for every penny he is worth.

I suggest you try not to poke everything you see. If you start out a relationship with business it becomes very hard to alter it later down the line. It can be done though... I did it and wouldn't change it for all the poosie in CR.

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Nandout & Berk, great posts. My Chica became my Novia and the first six months everything was cool, that is as long as I helped support her and the 3 K*ds. She truley wanted out of the business and I was her way out. When I started questioning what she spent money on and things started going down hill. The problem was that she saw what her girlfriends could afford by working and expected me to pagar, pagar. pagar for it all without her working. After that all the good confrontational, temper tantruns that you can read about in various posts started and no mas sexo.

If you really want to make friends out of these girls the only way is not to do business with them, then you might have a chance at a relationship but I'm sure that there are beautiful, nice girls who want a relationship with a Gringo that aren't working to be met-just not in The Gulch.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:40 am 
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Bump for the newbies. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:53 am 
Bumping your own thread?

I suppose the premise has some validity as starting point for those in the game and it is a provides protection for a MAJOR risk that one encounters out on the playing field.

however, the game has layers of complexities that are not accounted for in this basic rule.

For newbies, that want to understand the complexities of the game, go to :

https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19604

There is a whole other side to the game tha your thread misses Berk:

#1 you would be surprised how many of these girls really DO fall for their customers and then get burned because the guys were just bull shitting them. The REALITY is that most of these girls start out pretty nice and would like to find a nice man to help them find their way in life. After getting burned by a Gringo or two, they start doing the same in return. Game on.

(One of my chica friends is going through this right now and she is really hurt, I can see it. One of my favorites at ZB was crying the other day because she just learned that she was being played by a Gringo that she really liked.)

What makes me uncomfortable with this thread is the underlieing arrogance of the attitude that it promotes (no personal offense intended). We are not better than these girls, in fact I hold many of these women in higher regard as many of the jackasses that I see running around the gulch. There are many good and decent women in the gulch that are caught in a tough situation. They end up playing us, because we play them.

For those of us interested in the higher levels of the game, the premise of this thread, while valid on the most basic level, misses the mark in terms of the complexities of the playing field.

In the big picture, I see the overly simplistic attitude promoted in this thread as part of the problem, not part of the solution. If we treated them better, they would treat us better. You would be amazed how much extra play I get for not being as big of an asshole as all of the rest of the Gringos.


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If we treated them better, they would treat us better. You would be amazed how much extra play I get for not being as big of an asshole as all of the rest of the Gringos.
Agreed, we should always treat them with respect and like ladies-- but couldn't this still be considered part of "playing the game"? You seem to come across as being above the "game" or not having to play it at all. Seems to me know matter how well I know a chica there will always be some deception, acting and give & take going on. From my experience just because I'm nicer and try to make them laugh more than some gringos- the chicas still play me along and lie about everything, their lies just seem more sincere... :?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:33 am 
But I do hear what you are saying. Even the word "Game" implies a degree of arrogance. I really don't mean it that way.

I am not above the game. I am IN the game. To be honest, I am still learning the game. Every time I discover one new twist, I find other challenges that I had not anticipated. I just keep taking it to another level. Those that think they have it all figured out, I would submit have only stopped progressing. Personally, I don't think there is any such thing as having it all figured out, and that is what makes it such a GREAT game to play!

To tell the truth, I don't see this game a "fundimentally" that much different than the civilian version. Yes there are a different set of rules and there are different hazards. But I see it as a more intense, action packed, faster paced play than the same thing we know back in the so called "real world".

Women are women. EVERY single solitary one of them, no matter where you go on the face of the earth, is a tough puzzle to figure out.


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Kccostarica wrote:
If we treated them better, they would treat us better. You would be amazed how much extra play I get for not being as big of an asshole as all of the rest of the Gringos.
Agreed, we should always treat them with respect and like ladies-- but couldn't this still be considered part of "playing the game"? You seem to come across as being above the "game" or not having to play it at all. Seems to me know matter how well I know a chica there will always be some deception, acting and give & take going on. From my experience just because I'm nicer and try to make them laugh more than some gringos- the chicas still play me along and lie about everything, their lies just seem more sincere... :?


And their goal remains unchanged. Extracting cash from Sr. Gringo's pocket. P4P is always a business transaction. The problems occur when the penis forgets that. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:39 am 
Berk......

So what?

Marriage is a business transaction too. It is a contract right?


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 Post subject: Marriage
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:10 pm 
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Kccostarica wrote:
Berk......

So what?

Marriage is a business transaction too. It is a contract right?



We all have opinions and you're about to hear mine:

yes marriage is a business contract. Two people stand before God, their families and friends to declare to all that from that moment on they are a team. Mutually supporting with one goal in mind.
Pay for play is a private two-party contract with no foundation in law or religion. Seldom is carried out in front of anyone but the two involved. The agreement being she will serve your carnal needs in exchange for a set amount of cash.

Now which of these two is the more honest and less self-serving can be debated into eternity. Personally: marriage is legally, morally and socially
sanctioned pay for play. Shrouded in unimaginable layers of deceit dishonesty and self-serving motivations.

Whereas pay for play is one of the most honest relationship you can have. She knows exactly why she's there and you know exactly why she's there. Everybody knows what the other one wants and what they're willing to pay for it. That's a good honest workable relationship.

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 Post subject: Honesty
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:20 pm 
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#1 you would be surprised how many of these girls really DO fall for their customers and then get burned because the guys were just bull shitting them.


I've said it before and I'm about to say it again. It is just as despicable and unacceptable for one of us to use the possibility of getting them out of the life they lead as a tool to deceive them into doing what you want as it is wrong for them to fake a love for you in order to extract money from you.

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 Post subject: Re: Honesty
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:44 pm 
Lee, all your points are good.

Certainly there are distinctions between Civilian P4P and Pro P4P. Good job of articulating the differences.

I would also say that in both arenas that are cases where couples operate in the gray area between the two. Certainly there are all sorts of hybred type relationships that are a mixture of Monogamy and Whorishness, both male and female.

But in this thread there has been a quest for over simplification and in that vein, I submit that P4P is P4P, weather civilian or pro, both are essentially business deals at their core.

In the big scheme of things, how much different are our upfront puta negotiations from that of the modern day Pre Nup?

In fact, the concept of Love being important in marriage is a relatively new phenomenon. Less than 10 generations I believe.


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I've said it before and I'm about to say it again. It is just as despicable and unacceptable for one of us to use the possibility of getting them out of the life they lead as a tool to deceive them into doing what you want as it is wrong for them to fake a love for you in order to extract money from you.

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