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My friend, truer words have not been spoken...

for 24k, I can EASILY have 8 FANTASTIC trips blowing 3k per trip, and phukin 30+ girls per trip...

Why would I want to spend that kind of cash on just 1???

thanks to Paco for bringing up the cost-benefit angle
it is time we stop thinking with the other head and do some calculations (what am i saying!!!, always let the other head make the important decisions)

several years back, there was a wall street journal article on kept-women when travel between Hong Kong and mainland china opened up.

to the best of my recollection
back then, an HK kept woman expected about $3-4K per month, not sure if this included an apartment or on top of an apartment.
So men bought a fancy apartment in their name for the rendevous,
on the mainland, a kept woman expected only 500-600/mo

in the globalization schem of things, one expect HK price to come down and some escalation in the mainland

Paco, opening this line of question is a good start,
but perhaps you did not sell the benefits of being a kept woman well enough?
yes, the potential money of being a short-term rental is higher,
but she has to go out to earn it night after night,
some times the only gringo willing to shell out the bucks is old, fat, drunk obnoxious and smelly (wait, that might be me)

being a kept woman, she can sit at home, watch tv, go to school (LOL), possibly work a regular job, especially if it is one that might develop into something worthwhile in a few years.

so perhaps $1000-1500/mo might be reasonable for a decent sub-Cien girl, if she can live on $300/mo, thats 700-1200 that can be saved for a house.

on the benefit side, suppose you are paying 200/nt, that would be 5-8 nt/mo, minus that fact that there is value in switching girls periodically

you should also compare this to what it would cost you if you married a gringa, and got a divorce a couple of years laters, $50-200K?
and compare the benefit of a latina, vs gringa, ie, # of bbbjtc, cim, etc

anyways, perhaps CR is a little on the expensive side,
perhaps Medillin would be better,

of course, this talk of break even is kind of moot
because if you are not here, she just might wander over to the HDR just to chat with some friends

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Paco what a great way to look at this ! I would have paid for a good seat to watch you compile your data. Makes you wonder how much these Latinas really appreciate what the poor sapps sending $$$$$ put themselves through thinking they are winning them over??? Interesting when you think about it all. I picked up many one nite stands back in the good old disco days when Gringas were pretty easy also. I never considered sending them any $$$ for anything which makes me wonder why I see so many doing this down south??? One thing CR & the Latinas have proven to me over & over is how desperate so many Gringos are to really have a woman that cares about them in their life. You can't buy that shit you have to earn it is what one wise man told me & I believe he is right . I pay a hooker for performance & GFFE experience & not for some ill-fated miss guided affection.

You guys want to really see this help them translate some of their phone messages they receive & emails from the sapps that desperately try to keep them so "special" . I only recommend doing this as cheap entertainment after you have run out of bullets with her & you need some recovery time for the 2nd go at her. Really a very sad experience in my book listening to what these poor guys say & how they say it . I guess our society has reduced many men to this level . I really doubt if many so called third world men give them the time of day. This is why so many Latinas are on point for Gringos ! Many Chicas have proven first you mount the Gringo then you use him til he can't take it any more or he has nothing more to take.

In most failed relationships we are so quick to forget each other even existed but one thing that we NEVER forget is how much that relationship cost us !

It seems to me men that use money to try to glue a relationship together must have pretty low self esteem. Latinas like men that they respect & I believe this is a better bondo to use if you truly want one around.

I agree with you Paco it is wise to get out the econo-peter-meter getting to the ROOT of the matter, only pay for the parts you use & don't be used yourself.

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Well put Zippy. And one might add that many of these women, while playing on the fantasies of the love struck, lonely gringo, often times live with or are married to a good for nothing, non working, Latino (not to insinuate all Latinos are lazy good for nothings...since we have plenty of gringos who under acheive as well) who often drops them off and/or pick them up from the HDR or Key Largo. So as far as "love" or regular relations go...it doesnt seem that money controls ALL their decisions of what they do in their personal lives. I think it is back to the fact that in hetero relations...class/income levels have a lot to do with comfort levels.

Personally, I have found it a revolting thought to ever have a serious relationship with a pro who has been giving it away to some freeloading Latin macho dude for months or years. There is a lot of sickness in all this dynamic from my point of view.

These are some of the realities mongers need to face when considering trying to "reform" a pro worker....

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Women like that are everywhere. Latin America has no monopoly.



Reform?

I think many will agree with me that many of these women to be very nice, decent women that are in a tough spot.

The hard core pros are another thing. There are many, many that aren't shit. But .....

a lot of these women are decent women that are just trying to raise Ch*ldren and need a little help. I have met some that I was almost embarrassed to be banging on because they were such decent women. Of course that didn't stop me, but you get the point.

I am not sure the word "reform" applies to all of them.

And just who says there is anything wrong with an "arrangement" type relationship? That sort of thing has been around a lot longer than "love".

The trick is to know what type of woman you are dealing with and act appropriately.

Kccostarica

KC I wouldn't argue with what you posted at all. Those of us that have spent much time there know all this to be very true. I have "almost" been embarrassed with some I was with also as they seemed so inexperienced & shy of the world. I couldn't agree more with "The trick is to know what type of woman you are dealing with and act appropriately". This says it all!! I have a different mode with the different types. I read them & this tells me how to play with them or how I will behave myself . It's a great game since few are exactly alike so it is hard to get too bored with all of it.

Men get much more out of this game I feel if they follow your quote ! The men that approach it all like I paid for it & they are all whores trying to piss on some young Tica that is just trying to find a way to take care of her family are not going to get the better performances out of these Chicas.

The sad part I see repeatly is the lost lonely Gringo (possibly on the rebound) who goes for a swim in the young shark infested waters of HDR.

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Geez.... Thanks Zippy. You just let the air out of my sails. Now my game-plan is all shot to sh*t !!!
MG

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Okay then, allow me to offer this scenereo: if you were to pluck out one of those that have not really learned how to play the game. You have a few sessions over a couple weeks. You like her, she treats you good. Whats wrong with having an arrangement with one like that. Give her 4 or 6 or 8 hundred a month, you get to hang out whenever you want, get laid 2 or 3 times a week, and get a home cooked meal out of the deal, whats wrong with that? I don't really see a problem as long as you are the one wearing the pants.

You know, there are other reasons for female companionship besides just phucking. Sometimes it is nice to have one to go out to dinner with you or just have them hang out and do your laundry for you. I hate folding my own clothes.

If you are sending money from the States, you are a fool.

MG that is quite the saliva exchange on your avatar ! Caused problems for me at work when a Gringa saw it ! You know how they can be.

This thread has run amuck so I will do some deep searching tonight with Monty Pythons Meanings of Life & Masters of the Mongering Universe to see if I discover any revelations ! Oh yeah KC my advice would be keep it at 400 per month (40 per session) or less on the installment plan after service has been rendered just too be on the safe side. I like the plan but most guys have very bad luck paying in advance .

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There is nothing wrong with this arrangement. That's similar to what I do. I have 2 very good Colombian amigas that are roommates. One I have known for almost 2 years and the other one for 1 1/2 years mas o menos. We hang out... go to the movies, eat out or they feed me at their place lunch or dinner. I don't pay them anything, I don't give them money and I don't phuck them. They do well enough on their own. That keeps everything real or as real as it can be although the 3 of us do not play the "game" with each other. Yes, they work the DR. We have a "normal" relationship as in friends. I phuck elsewhere and they know it. We don't talk about it much. We discussed ZB several times when I was down last month. We talk often on the phone. I have firsthand knowledge as to how the game is played as a p4p guy and as an observer of how these chicas operate with gringos. We discuss the "game" at least once a trip. That's why I started this thread. I have something many on here do not have. No one, though, is "in love" in this friendship.

This is probably why I have returned to CR so many times over the last year and a half. Overall, the DR scene is generally boring. I took only one chica out of there last month during an 8 night trip. Like you said "K", if you send them money from the States you are a fool. I promise you this... there is a BIG supply of fools doing just that.

If you phuck them and money is exchanged be it even indirectly you are in the game. Know and follow the rules and you come out a winner. Disregard the rules... you lose cause you're being played.

Berk......

Kccostarica:

Berk beat me to it but I agree nothing wrong with that relationship. It's what I would call a mistress. You get all the advantages of a wife and give up none of the advantages of being a single male. A couple of times in my life I have had a relationship where in exchange for some continue support I got much the same services you're talking about. Completely devoid of the day-to-day interaction that destroys most marriages.

Unlike the dependent relationships many have with girls from the Del Rey. A mistress is paid to provide wifely services without mandatory husbandly devotion. Whereas a girl from the Del Rey is paid to keep her from doing with others what she is doing with you all the time she's doing others. And doing to them what she is doing to you.

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Okay, what about this:

I have a Novia that is a regular at the Rey.

I did p4p once with her and once only. I have never given her a dime otherwise.

I can go home with her anytime and spend the night. It is obvious she likes me. We hang out. She doesn't want me to phuck her if I am not paying, but every once in a while I slip it in there for a quicky.

I have no problem calling her my Novia. She is cool, she treats me good, I like hanging out with her. Shit, only problem is I forgot her name ...... LOL ..... truth is funnier than fiction.

Mistress / Novia what is the difference?

Who cares what you call them?

Just don't send money from the states! Don't fall in love. Don't get hung up on monogomy.

I'm gonna bump this thread for the simple reason that I got word from a very reliable source that the SL chica that took the CRT fellow for a ride in the Dougpi "Who's Game" thread was also doing the same thing with 3 other gringos.

She was doing what she has seen done no telling how many times. I do not fault her. It's all a game. These chicas, ANY chica connected with the gluch, are programmed to extract money from Americans.

One cannot go looking for love in all the wrong places and the "gluch" is, hands down, the wrong place.

If I could retitle this thread this is what it would be... "Any chica connected with the gluch can behave like a hooker (if she isn't one)... wake up and smell the coffee".

Buying toys for some chica's ninos at Xmas is one thing... sending cash is another.

Berk.....

GR referenced one of his old posts warning about chicas in and around the gulch whether they are currently working P4P or not they probably can't be trusted since they've been around it and seen all the games and easy money. Ever stop to think what that chica with the civilian job in the gulch was doing before she got that civilian job?
We'd like to think CRT guys should know better but there will always be guys sending $$$ and perhaps a small percentage of chicas are faithful and semi-honest but not many. Last trip I heard about a gringo that dropped six figures on a HDR puta and got played, probably wasn't a lot of money to him though.