OldQDog wrote:
... So for me there are then two issues:
What role philanthropy plays in leveling inequity which seems to be acceptable capitalistic collateral damage - in p4p terms, some would it us "soft hearted playas" being touched by chicas with game. It seems to me that in this thread, and others, philanthropy is discouraged. Especially when it affects the marketplace.
I think the "problem" some guys have is they get confused whenever they mix business and philanthropy.
If you really just want to help someone, then there are FARRRR needier candidates than these HDR working girls. Even if the only get one Cien customer a week they're still doing better than a HUGE number of ticos, who in turn are doing WAYYYY better than millions of people in other parts of the world. Do you really want to help? Why don't you start with all those others? I give every month to communities in Bolivia, Malawi, Bangladesh and Afghanistan (and its not because I expect to have sex with anyone there). You'd rather help sex-workers in CR? Give to Fundación Rahab, which provides counseling and training for street-level prostitutes seeking to get OUT of the business. If you want to see which working girls are REALLY struggling in this tico economy, poke your head in the door of one of the Calle 6 pensiones. Compared to all these others, your "poor suffering Del Rey girls" really are just spoiled whiney bitches.
We're helping these gals enough when we pay them the current MARKET rates for their services (the average amounts guys actually pay these girls as opposed to the amounts they ask), which are WAAYY more then what they'd make if they took a job like a regular tico where they'd actually have to labor for 10 hours straight 6 days a week, rather than sit around a bar with their friends, having guys occasionally buy them drinks amd turning down reasonable market rate offers of work.
I don't discourage philanthropy at all, but do it where it will do the most good, for people who REALLY need it, who appreciate that you CHOSE to donate it, rather than to comparatively well off spoiled women who are too lazy or too proud to accept options that are offered to them every day to earn their own way out of their problems and who, when you do give them extra money, only think you did it because they were able to sucker you.
Miamiheller,
I know what you mean about the domestic scene. It happens over here too and its not dissimilar to what we're talking about with the HDR girls. The difference is that most ******* HAVE adjusted their prices or at least changed their business model to make their services more affordable. For example you see a lot more ads for HALF-hour sessions for rates of $100-125. But even hourly services can be found for as low as $150 with some pretty decent providers. Given those local rates in the US, the $150 amounts being asked by some HDR girls seems totally ridiculous and even paying "just" $100 seems pretty crazy too, if you amortize in the costs of travel to CR. But, you're right, some US ******* don't get it either.
Strippers are another story. My god, they're JUST like HDR girls, bitching about slow business, but not budging at all on their rates in the back rooms. I think your problem in S. FL is that the girls you're talking about are all STRIPPERS. They may be on the program, but evidently it is not the same program as you. If you've got internet ads for chicas who will work for a lot less, then maybe you should go for them. Its been a few years since I mongered in S. FL. but I remember it as having an EXCELLENT escort scene, much better than even Tampa.
We're going through this problem with strippers in trying to set up a private house party for one of our chapter meetings. Come by for a few hours on a Sunday afternoon/evening, when business at the club will suck anyway, for a house party. We'll guarantee at least a half dozen lap dances each, which is as well as or better than some of these gals say they're doing at their clubs on a slow night, plus the opportunity to make much more depending on whatever extras they perform when they go in the back room. Plus food and drink or course and an easy relaxed atmosphere guaranteed free of any vice officers. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. But most strippers expect $300 per HOUR like a regular escort even though they wouldn't be expected to be working the whole time. All is not lost and we've found a couple of prime candidates who are open to the idea, but will need a couple more to have a decent ratio.
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You wanted graphs too? I never really thought about it before but I've always felt my posts were missing something. All this time and now I know they needed some graphs thrown in. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get right on it. 
