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 Post subject: Re: coranavirus concern
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2020 9:37 pm 
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We might as well be realistic: As long as the virus is still around, once people start to mingle again it will spread. It has to run its' course, so to speak, and when it does, as long as you are not old and frail or with existing conditions you really have about zero to worry about. If you are at risk protect yourself and stay in as much as possible. Let everyone else protect themselves as they see fit and live their lives.
It is nothing worse than a wicked strain of the flu which can kill huge amounts of people.
Why the f*ck people are panicking and why the media and our governments are leading the panic is beyond me. IMHO something more is going on besides this virus.
What really worries me is how much money Sñr. El Presidente has borrowed. Another half B-b-b-billion on Wednesday.
It could get interesting here in ticolandia.

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A milestone was reached here today. There are fewer active cases than recoveries. Each day they have more recoveries than new cases. Soon there will be fewer than 300 active cases in the whole country. Problem is they don't plan to open the borders until they open the country to the locals and they are not planning to open things anytime soon. I suspect there will soon be intense pressure to open things up to the locals. More than half the country has no active cases. There are less than 20 active cases outside the central valley and Jaco areas. Still all the beaches and parks are closed. The real concerns are opening the border to Nicaragua and tourists coming in and spreading it all over the country. Hand sanitation and personal spacing are still being encouraged to a great degree. Few are wearing masks.
The economic impact is devastating. Crops are rotting in fields and being given away to whoever wants to come and get them. There are no shortages here. Pretty much everything that was available pre-virus is available now. Only 6 have died. 3 of these in their 80s. There are single digit numbers of people in intensive care. Businesses that can open are being slow to open. Theaters are trying to cope with spacing and sanitation before opening. My gym is still closed. Very few of the better restaurants are trying to open. Most of what is open is take out and fast food.
This will be a new country when things reopen. Tourism will take years to recover. Many businesses will fail. It will be very slow for many reasons. One of the main reasons will be many people who could afford to visit here from the states are taking a beating economically at the moment. One thing that you can count on will be there will be women here when you return. The prices will depend on your negotiating skills.


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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 1:10 am 
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I've heard conflicting stories. I hope one of you guys living in CR can clear it up.

I've heard the CR government does not have any programs to provide financial help to the people and I've heard they have such a program and are already providing financial assistance to the citizens. Do any of you guys have any first hand awareness on this?

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Lennydo wrote:
I've heard conflicting stories. I hope one of you guys living in CR can clear it up.

I've heard the CR government does not have any programs to provide financial help to the people and I've heard they have such a program and are already providing financial assistance to the citizens. Do any of you guys have any first hand awareness on this?

Well, not first hand as in seeing any money, but the government launched a program called Bono Proteger on April 9. As of last Monday, 438,679 people had registered online. The government selected 33,000 people to receive aid, about 7.5% of applicants.
Here is a decent summary
http://amcostarica.com/Approved%20$650% ... nment.html

There are lots of other different programs and measures such as moratoriums on water disconnects and talks about eviction freezes and tax collection. Also, they have kept fuel prices elevated as the price of oil drops. The excess is *supposed* to be used for the covid response. Also, there are a lot of private efforts. My understanding is that the La Amistad is continuing to pay their employees (at least for now) so they will be ready for any reopening. Kudos to Matt.

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The government has done nothing but borrow massive amounts of capital on the premise it was going to help its' unemployed and as Boynton noted: they have hardly paid sh*t to the people who need it. Meanwhile, the people that order businesses and beaches closed and people not to go to work are still receiving their pay...
Fortunately, a lot of different programs have popped up and people are coming together to help as ticos often do.
Gas prices have not budged.
To me, while it has completed some projects (at great expense), this administration appears to be a criminal organization fleecing the country.
Oh and big ups to Matt for looking out after his people. 8)

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One good report of some targeted giving "Almost 50 thousand families
receive a food donation".

http://amcostarica.com/Almost%2050%20th ... ation.html

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Here's a couple of new postings on Costa Rica and COVID

https://qcostarica.com/costa-rica-prais ... 2lQQp9Nu38


http://amcostarica.com/400,000%20will%2 ... bonus.html

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2020 5:37 pm 
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Costa Rica has extended its entry restrictions in response to the coronavirus pandemic until June 15.
Until at least that date, Costa Rica will deny entry to tourists and non-resident foreigners, the Public Security Ministry announced Thursday. The restriction applies to the country’s ports of entry via land, air or sea.

Exceptions may be made for “humanitarian cases,” Public Security Minister Michael Soto has said previously, but those instances must be approved by the Immigration Administration, the Health Ministry and the Foreign Ministry.

Costa Rica’s partial border shutdown began March 19.

Citizens, residents and tourists are all still allowed to leave Costa Rica. However, foreign residents who leave or left the country on March 24 or later are unable to re-enter Costa Rica until further notice.

https://ticotimes.net/2020/05/07/costa- ... il-june-15


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Thanks admin for keeping us informed, we will be back in full force when possible.

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It works both ways. There are cases where the person happend to have the Corona Virus but Dies of something more serious but yet was classified a cv death.

Me ? I'm coming down as soon as they open the border and I can take an airline fluying San Francisco to San Jose. Sex ? Yes. Tongue kissing ? No.


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likewise I live in the SF area and will be heading out SFO to SJO as soon as it opens up


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Something for thought. What are the chances that I will die from this virus? The degree of hysteria that is depicted in the media may not be warranted. The measures that are being utilized to control this illness may be completely wrong. 6 people in Costa Rica have died that tested positive for this virus. Others may have died that were not tested but many more may have had the virus in a mild form and never met the criteria to be tested. What is known is that most who die are either older or obese. I know that I am in the high risk group. I am 70, have mild hypertension, am slightly overweight, have mild asthma. I am confident that at least 20% of the over 700 people who have tested positive here probably meet these same risk factors if not more serious. Only 3 people my age or older have died. They were in their mid to late 80s. My chances look pretty good even if I get the virus.

The information that is available about age, health demographics shows that 80% of the people who get this virus have mild symptoms that do not require medical intervention. Costa Rica is a good example of this as is the aircraft carrier that had close to 5000 on board, over 400 tested positive, 9 of the 400 were treated for symptoms and only 1 died. A study in California indicated that the virus was 50 to 80 times more prevalent in the population than testing had indicated.

What the media is not telling us is the age and health demographics of the people who are dying. If only one person under the age of 50 out of nearly 5000 people who were on the aircraft carrier died and that is assuming that most of the personnel on the ship were in reasonably good health then imposing the degree of social distancing on them that is being imposed on the general population might be considered excessive. I would definitely like to see how many of the deaths attributed to the virus in the states were among people under the age of 40 and not having pre existing health issues.

Social distancing here is only halfway being practiced and yet the cases are not expanding. I rode a bus this week where people were sitting next to each other, a half way attempt was made to space people out. There was no attempt at sanitizing and nobody except myself was wearing a mask including the driver. This in San Jose where the most cases have been recorded. If you walk down Avenida Central it is 80% normal pedestrian traffic during the day with 1 in 20 wearing a mask. Yet you cannot sit next to someone in a restaurant or walk alone on a deserted beach here.

If you were told that your chance of dying from this virus was one in 10,000 would you be so quick to give up your freedom and endure this economic hardship. If you could voluntarily expose yourself to the virus knowing that your chances of dying were one in 10,000 would you do so. I would with those odds. My odds probably are not quite this good but probably not prohibitively bad. We were not given a choice. Our freedom was taken. If I were you I would be demanding to know the truth. The media is not telling you. The politicians are not telling you. The bureaucrats are not telling you the truth of what is the real chance you will die from this virus given your life circumstance. I think we have all been had by many people with agendas that are not in our best interest. The media doesn't have to lie, nor do the politicians and bureaucrats. They can get by emphasizing things that are peripheral to the real issue. The real issue is how likely are you to die from this virus if you actually get it.


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Thanks again, Pops, for your candid, true words. I am up here in US and in about same demographics are you. I've moved on from "deadly scared" to being vigilant ; only because I moved on from all the lies in the media. Stay safe and healthy!


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:29 am 
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Something for thought. What are the chances that I will die from this virus? The degree of hysteria that is depicted in the media may not be warranted. The measures that are being utilized to control this illness may be completely wrong. 6 people in Costa Rica have died that tested positive for this virus. Others may have died that were not tested but many more may have had the virus in a mild form and never met the criteria to be tested. What is known is that most who die are either older or obese. I know that I am in the high risk group. I am 70, have mild hypertension, am slightly overweight, have mild asthma. I am confident that at least 20% of the over 700 people who have tested positive here probably meet these same risk factors if not more serious. Only 3 people my age or older have died. They were in their mid to late 80s. My chances look pretty good even if I get the virus.

The information that is available about age, health demographics shows that 80% of the people who get this virus have mild symptoms that do not require medical intervention. Costa Rica is a good example of this as is the aircraft carrier that had close to 5000 on board, over 400 tested positive, 9 of the 400 were treated for symptoms and only 1 died. A study in California indicated that the virus was 50 to 80 times more prevalent in the population than testing had indicated.

What the media is not telling us is the age and health demographics of the people who are dying. If only one person under the age of 50 out of nearly 5000 people who were on the aircraft carrier died and that is assuming that most of the personnel on the ship were in reasonably good health then imposing the degree of social distancing on them that is being imposed on the general population might be considered excessive. I would definitely like to see how many of the deaths attributed to the virus in the states were among people under the age of 40 and not having pre existing health issues.

Social distancing here is only halfway being practiced and yet the cases are not expanding. I rode a bus this week where people were sitting next to each other, a half way attempt was made to space people out. There was no attempt at sanitizing and nobody except myself was wearing a mask including the driver. This in San Jose where the most cases have been recorded. If you walk down Avenida Central it is 80% normal pedestrian traffic during the day with 1 in 20 wearing a mask. Yet you cannot sit next to someone in a restaurant or walk alone on a deserted beach here.

If you were told that your chance of dying from this virus was one in 10,000 would you be so quick to give up your freedom and endure this economic hardship. If you could voluntarily expose yourself to the virus knowing that your chances of dying were one in 10,000 would you do so. I would with those odds. My odds probably are not quite this good but probably not prohibitively bad. We were not given a choice. Our freedom was taken. If I were you I would be demanding to know the truth. The media is not telling you. The politicians are not telling you. The bureaucrats are not telling you the truth of what is the real chance you will die from this virus given your life circumstance. I think we have all been had by many people with agendas that are not in our best interest. The media doesn't have to lie, nor do the politicians and bureaucrats. They can get by emphasizing things that are peripheral to the real issue. The real issue is how likely are you to die from this virus if you actually get it.


I am 69 years old...and have seen a lot of the information on deaths by age group, etc. The information is out there. The number of people who have actually had the virus is a bit of an open question...those numbers from New York and California were antibody tests that may or may not be very accurate. But no doubt there are many that have had it that are not in the official numbers. I think closer to 10 times the reported numbers...but we'll know better when the immunological tests progress and become more accurate.

All in all at my age, if I were to get the virus, I think my chances of dying are around 1 to 2%, which is less than the rates for "known cases" in my age group. I have none of those pre-existing conditions as far as I know.

So then what are the chances I will get it? Here, at the moment, very low. Everyone is still physical distancing, no one is closer than 6 or 7 feet apart when out at grocery shopping, etc. and most people are only closer to people they live with. There are exceptions with essential service workers, and with younger people who think they are not at all vulnerable. But generally compliance is good. And case numbers are low and dropping in my area. Over 80 percent of our deaths were in long term care facilities and seniors residences. And those are not completely done yet, but are currently being managed better hopefully.

I know I'm not ready to take the gamble on places where people are moving and mixing freely however. Not until case numbers are very low and certainly not if those places are open to visitors from countries with uncontrolled virus.


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Lennydo wrote:
I've heard conflicting stories. I hope one of you guys living in CR can clear it up.

I've heard the CR government does not have any programs to provide financial help to the people and I've heard they have such a program and are already providing financial assistance to the citizens. Do any of you guys have any first hand awareness on this?


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