Pacifica55 wrote:
I have checked in on this thread a number of times and finally decided to add my two cents.
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs apply to everyone, even DR hookers. In general, all women are in search of a warm secure nest. Generally, the nest comes with a provider and the woman chooses a mate based as much on his ability to provide a warm secure nest as on all other factors combined. You can be the hottest thing on two wheels but you are only good for play if you can't provide.
The 10% at the Del Rey are in their prime and do not presently need a provider. In the back of their little Colombiana mind, though, is the thought that this can/will not go on forever either because she is not enjoying the play or because the clock is running. Bottom line is that they are women and all women want a warm secure nest.
Of course, their are obstacles to any relationship. For some of us, lust plays an important role in our search for someone to settle down with. Unfortunately, lust lasts a maximum of about 18 months and so do many of our relationships. (Or at least the "fun" part. Some linger longer just for the abuse factor.)
In summary, how many girls over 30 do you see at the Del Rey? Where do you suppose they go? A few are still trying to make a living with their backside but they are few. Most have found a nest of one sort or another and are going on with their lives. "Once a ho, always a ho" does not apply as well in Latin America as it does in the USA. Many women in many social and economic positions spent some time on their backs in their late teens and twenties.
Is it possible to "reform" a professional girl and turn her into a true novia? Certainly. But their are more obstacles in culture/language/religion than when considering someone from the US.
In my opinion, the biggest obstacle is our own decision making process when choosing a partner. If you are like me, you have already made the same or similar mistakes more than once in the past. Instead of changing the way we manage a relationship, we merely change partners and use the same broken tools we used before with similar results. We then blame the partner, fall in lust with someone else, ignore all the warning bells and buzzers and make the same mistakes again. The problem is exacerbated when dealing with Latina women who demand assertiveness in men. Most American men cannot master the ability to be respectful but resolved. Instead, they try to end disagreements with compromise and conciliation which Latinas see as weakness. Weak men do not deserve their respect so they don't give it and the love is gone.
They are still women (in fact, they are more "basic" woman than gringas). All the rules apply. Learn the rules and how to read women and game on.
Great post P55, I know of probably a dozen working chicas that have hooked up with and/or married gringos in the past few years, it happens constantly. And some of those gringos are/were CRT guys in spite of the steady barrage of negativity posted about the futility of turning them into novias (this thread for instance) or even worse- into esposas! "Once a hooker always a hooker, they'll always be lying, unfaithful, only after your money, etc..". Well, in case you haven't noticed a lot of guys sure are pulling them out of the gulch for relationships and marriage anyway. Of course it's hard to get a handle on the success rate of these relationships since most guys won't talk about them, at least until they are long over with. Some of these women surely seek what you describe and are smart enough to realize their days of raking in the gringo dollars at the BM are numbered. Why do we see working girls on the dating sites- because they are looking for more gringos to scam into sending money? Perhaps but maybe it's because some are deep down hoping for security, romance and a better future for themselves and would take the high road if given a chance with the right hombre.
I simply refuse to believe that they are ALL evil with selfish agendas like some posters say. Yes, the good ones are probably rare but if the timing is right those could definitely be worth taking off the market. They are still women with basic needs, instincts and desires and if a gringo understands the cultural differences and plays his cards right maybe it could have as good a chance as any other relationship.
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