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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:47 am 
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I don't blame them for asking. Why shouldn't they? I don't think any of the working girls are independently wealthy. I doubt if the Del Rey 401k plan is worth a damn.

Also, just because a guy sends money I don't necessarily think he is a "sucker" or "sap" or any other term I've seen used on the board. I've admitted to sending my chica dinero in the past. Particularly when she was living in the Dominican and not working. Now, well...that is a different story. Go ahead and let the K*D in the candy store. JUST DON'T GIVE THEM THE KEY.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:19 am 
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Chesscat wrote:
I don't think asking for money is somehow a sin or a great fault on the woman's part. They think you are rich, they need money, they think you probably don't mind, so they ask. Does that mean you have to send her money? No. Does that mean that you can't continue to see her? I don't think so. Does that mean she is entirely mercenary? I don't think so. I don't see her asking for money as some type of watershed event in the relationship.


Cat........actually I agree. Everything has its pluses and minuses. We just have to keep it all in perspective. That's the key!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:33 am 
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Dapanz1 wrote:
We need to start a gambling line of over/under on how many emails it takes for the girl to pop the big question.


In my experience the over/under is usually about 3. The first two are almost an exact copy of Berk's message and then the creativity comes in. I broke the golden rule several years back and became smitten with a DR Colombiana who after a few messages telling me how much she loved me, sent an E-mail informing me of her plan to purchase a car and operate it as a taxi, if only she had the $6,000 to buy one. I told her I liked her plan to stop working as a prostitute and wished her luck. She responded by saying that I hurt her feelings by calling her a prostitute and that if I wasn't going to help her out then she was going to continue working at the DR and not write to me anymore. Huh??? Oh well, you live and you learn I guess.


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It's easy to make a rush to judgement. Last October I met a girl at Key Largo. She said she was not a working girl and had come there with a couple of friends of hers for the dancing. We really hit it off. As they say, the chemistry was right. Yes, I was a little suspect of all this, but I played along. After Key Largo we went to the El Pueblo disco. We had a great time. She never left my side and made sure that I was comfortable with everything. We then went to my hotel where she spent the night. We had breakfast together in the morning. I asked her about her life and got the typical hard luck story that they all have. She told me she had two daughters, one 3 years old and one 7. She said she had to leave to get home to her daughters. She never asked me for money, but I insisted, and gave her some. We agreed to meet later in the week. Several days later we met at the Mariscar [sp?] roast chicken restaurant on Central Avenida. She had brought her two daughters. They were so beautiful and had smiles that would melt the coldest heart. Now, I'm 51 years old and never had a daughter, so I was really enjoying this. We stopped at a toy store on Central Avenida, where normally, these girls could only look in the window. I told them to pick out whatever they wanted. Decisions, decisions......finally, after some time, they made their choices. They were so appreciative.

Over the next few weeks of spending time with them, I realized what kind of poverty they were living in. During that period of time we were together, I bought toys, clothes, shoes, food, school uniforms and paid to have two teeth repaired that were bothering the 7 year old.

Together, we all went to The Ch*ldren's Museum, the amusement park, the zoo and lots of other places, and yes we ate quite a few Happy Meals at McDonalds. I felt like I was 31 instead of 51.

I'm grateful for the time I got to spend with them and that I had the financial resources to help them. The time I spent with them was without a doubt, the highlight of my trip.

We still stay in contact with each other, and yes, call me a sucker if you want, but I have used Western Union to send them money sometimes and was happy to do it.

Would I do it all over again?........you bet. In fact, we're planning to meet up again on my trip next month.

Zebra


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Good for you Zebra..nice story. It's nice to feel you have made a difference in someones life. She will never forget you. The problem comes when generosity gets dangerously close to being used/abused. If you have the resources and it's for a good cause..why not? If it makes you feel good to do it, by all means partake.

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Zebra,
that is an awesome story. I know how you feel. The lack of trust around here is because we have all been burned.It sounds like what you found is genuine, only time will tell. I know they are appreciative and the feeling of being able to help is priceless. I wish you luck with this relationship and continued enjoyment of fatherly love. I hope her two daughters grow up and have better opportunities to improve their lives.

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Zebra wrote:
It's easy to make a rush to judgement. Last October I met a girl at Key Largo. She said she was not a working girl and had come there with a couple of friends of hers for the dancing. We really hit it off. As they say, the chemistry was right. Yes, I was a little suspect of all this, but I played along. After Key Largo we went to the El Pueblo disco. We had a great time. She never left my side and made sure that I was comfortable with everything. We then went to my hotel where she spent the night. We had breakfast together in the morning. I asked her about her life and got the typical hard luck story that they all have. She told me she had two daughters, one 3 years old and one 7. She said she had to leave to get home to her daughters. She never asked me for money, but I insisted, and gave her some. We agreed to meet later in the week. Several days later we met at the Mariscar [sp?] roast chicken restaurant on Central Avenida. She had brought her two daughters. They were so beautiful and had smiles that would melt the coldest heart. Now, I'm 51 years old and never had a daughter, so I was really enjoying this. We stopped at a toy store on Central Avenida, where normally, these girls could only look in the window. I told them to pick out whatever they wanted. Decisions, decisions......finally, after some time, they made their choices. They were so appreciative.

Over the next few weeks of spending time with them, I realized what kind of poverty they were living in. During that period of time we were together, I bought toys, clothes, shoes, food, school uniforms and paid to have two teeth repaired that were bothering the 7 year old.

Together, we all went to The Ch*ldren's Museum, the amusement park, the zoo and lots of other places, and yes we ate quite a few Happy Meals at McDonalds. I felt like I was 31 instead of 51.

I'm grateful for the time I got to spend with them and that I had the financial resources to help them. The time I spent with them was without a doubt, the highlight of my trip.

We still stay in contact with each other, and yes, call me a sucker if you want, but I have used Western Union to send them money sometimes and was happy to do it.

Would I do it all over again?........you bet. In fact, we're planning to meet up again on my trip next month.

Zebra


Under the right circumstances I could see myself doing just about the same thing when we're talking about K*ds. You did it because you believed it was the right thing to do. No one can fault you for that! Here's a story I rarely tell. I once paid for a young couples dinner in a Joe's Crab Shack in Houston. I didn't know them and they sure in the hell didn't know me. Wrote a note on a napkin slipped in 2 $20 bills and had the waiter take it over to the as I was walking out the door. Why did I do it you ask? Because it was the right thing to do. Otherwise, I can't explain it.

I know this chica I was talking about in my inital post has a 7 yr old g*rl. I have seen her picture. I am sure their standard of living doesn't come close to mine most likely. I have no problem making a trip to the toy store simply because when you're 7 "toys" and "play" are everything!

Berk......


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Berk..I love guys like you. I'll tell you, I'm in the business of money. I have clients who have more money than I'll ever dream and it makes me sick that they bitch and moan if they aren't making double digit returns year after year. Would those same people ever offer to help someone who really needs it? Not sure but I doubt it. It really is better to give than receive. :-)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:41 pm 
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Berk2302:

What are you doing? You have a celebrity wife in the U.S. and just married a bartender at the Blue Marlin. And now you're trying to seduce a third girl into a life of sin with vague promises of money. Just who is trying to use who.

Lee



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Zebra- I'm proud of you. I always make sure to have toys for my favoritas K*ds. I'm more comfortable buying toys than panties that other guys will be removing.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:26 pm 
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It's interesting to see how this subject morphed from "them" asking for money, to "us" getting them what they need.And I think it is a natural progression, for those that really want to do that.

My final trip to the DomRep (for now), was ending just before my original novia's cumpleanos. She was the sweetest thing when I met her, but she became a more bitter barrio girl after hanging with the wrong element in Boca Chica ( no...not me). Anyway, I bought her a small leather wallet from one of the stands along Duarte, and stuffed about $80 us into one of it's pockets.

I gave her the wallet and she liked it, and I watched as she went over to a friend to show it off and then she opened the pocket..I will NEVER forget the look on her face when she found the money..total disbelief...shock.you name it. One of the best things I have ever done in my life.


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It is nice to hear stories of us letting our guards down and being human..Yes, we need to play by the rules when it comes to the chicas (no pay up front, negotiate, bla bla). Yes, we need to remmember who they are, and who we are. All that aside, what is wrong with these type of human encounters, where all get to feel decent about who we are, and who they are...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:48 pm 
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Ok now, I think you guys need to be less cynical & more sympathetic; both towards the suckers that fall in love and towards the chicas. In fact, if I recall correctly, I fell in love @ zonablue 4 times in 5 hours during the superbowl party (ok, so I got over it really really quick).

They want/need money and we crave sexual attention. It's all some sort of easten, ying-yang zen philosophy. It all balances out.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:40 am 
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Great posts! In the great male-female game we all play, around the world, a man's money is the equivalent of woman's looks. No getting around it. Eventually, any woman wonders "What can he do for me, to help support my offspring and me?"

It's part of our power, if we keep it that way. I think that's what the best advice is about, as well as remembering the ability to walk if it gets abusive. In CR, our power to do that, and find a new one that day, is magnified.

Keeping it on my terms is my thought, so I became a pre-emptive giver. Appreciation was my message, and my wish to stay in someone's mind. Trying out a possible future here. If it ends up fantasy, it's not a budget-buster.

It's hard to communicate all thoughts about it in a partial language hook-up, so I just make sure I'm in agreement with myself, and that I follow through on any promises I make to her.

I think that anything that's done respectfully has the best chance of being responded to honestly, but still, there are no guarantees.


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