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(Note to self .... Think of Prolijo's words re Trolls)

There is a difference between tactfully disagreeing with someone and attacks.

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At 7:08 AM this morning Boogie wrote:



In less than 7 hours he has had 16 replies, started a raging debate and has received absolutely no advice. Incredible

FYI Coqui, not all here subscribe to this philosophy,



There are a few who take any disagreement with their position as a personal attack.

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It doesn't have a thing to do with the main reason you are going to CR but I would take a day to do the San Lorenzo Canopy Tour.

What advice is he looking for? What more can he do with the girls? I guess there is always trying to bury the bone in the back yard or getting your salad tossed. This was a stupid question to begin with, what's with all the animosity?

No animosity here.

Boogie,

You say
My suggestion is that you use this trip to spend more time with her and develop a bit more of a GFE. It sounds as if perhaps you haven't experienced that part of the mongering lifestyle yet. Take her out to some nice restaurants or to the beach. Treat her like a gentleman. You will enjoy yourself and she will more than show her appreciation.

PacoLoco is absolutely right when he writes about
Having a regular (or two) who is (are) more than just a sex partner is one of the great things about CR. It is something of the best of both worlds--more than just time in the sack, but none (or little) of the baggage associated with a gringa "relationship".

Just make sure she knows that you will continue to enjoy yourself with other chicas.

Also, become a VIP member to help keep the board going and to enjoy the discounts.

To get things back on track. I whole heartedly agree with Pelo de Gato.

Okay, sigh, you all knew this was coming. Here is my dos colones.

First to answer the original question, I'm not sure what Boogie is looking for. As VB's astute observations suggest he is undoubtedly more of a monger than he is a whorticulturist. If he is referring to sexual conquests, I'm not sure what I could add to what he can already find elsewhere on this board. He hasn't mentioned visiting nightclubs such as Kamur (which would probably be too tame for such an accomplished master of the art since it is now supposed to be a "wholesome" environment), but there is also the various shows at places like D'Pelufo and Europa. He could also see how well he can do with non-"whores" by visiting nightspots such as at El Pueblo or seeing if he can pick up real "working"-girls with real jobs such as the shopgirls of the San Pedro Mall or the various office girls on their lunch-hour out on the Avenida Central downtown, etc.

Since he got past his original foolish misassumption that the HDR is the be-all and end-all of CR, maybe he will also learn that CR offers much more than just chicas. Herbf was on the right track by suggesting his San Lorenzo Canopy Tour, though why he keeps positng on that one particular tour has me wondering whether he's really being a shill (just kidding herb, besides we've already got the troll word being thrown around without raising the shilling word too). Personally my first choice of a day tour would either be a whitewater raft trip or, for those with only limited time to budget for sightseeing, the 4-in-1 tour. Canopy tours are fun too, I've been on at least 4 different ones, and any one of them would be a good selection. Has this guy even been out of SJ let alone the central valley? How about taking an extra day or two to visit Jaco, Manuel Antonio, Arenal, Puerto Viejo/Cahuita, etc. If Boogie thinks he's reached his limits of possibilities he's sadly mistaken.

Now for the part, you all really wanted to hear me pontificate on (Oh no, here it comes!).

VB's points were perfectly valid. Maybe I've become somewhat inured to such terminology since as Coqui correctly pointed out there are far more egregious violations occurring around here every day, but if I were VB I would have just let it go. In fact, I first read this post before he responded and only just returned to see this embarassing flurry of posts that have followed. I was originally just going to ignore his post altogether. Perhaps it just struck a nerve with VB. I can understand that as it happens that way sometimes with all of us. As others have pointed out, at least VB posted his views in a constructive manner and he is well known to be especially helpful to newbies.

So Coqui was also right up to a point. VB could have let the comments just slide. Where Coqui went wrong, besides overstating his case like I usually do, was in a bit of hypocrisy. Coqui, how can YOU tell someone to chill, when you are as guilty of not letting things pass as anyone around here. I can be bad about that too, but at least I'll admit it. Look at all of the self-defense that you mounted following your initial remarks. I think EVERYONE should just let it go and answer the man's question.

The fact that this thread went do far off topic and grew so bitter, with charges of trolling, or questions regarding one person or anothers right to post this or that is symptomatic of a larger issue. You get an isolated interloper here or a genuine troll there and soon paranoia grows and people are pointing fingers and complaining about problems everywhere. There is a growing tendency of some vets to jump on some newcomers, sometimes justifiably and sometimes not. The arguments that ensue can make us all seem immature and petty. And there is growing number of newsomers who don't follow basic rules like use the search function before posting or using terminology that is inappropriate for this board's culture. And that understandably irritates everyone that has gotten with the program. Its unfortunate, but it is sometimes the inevitable byproduct of growth. None of us would want to throw the baby out with the bath water or to use another phrase if you're gonna have a picnic you have to expect a few ants.

A few final comments which in a way bear upon VB's sensitivities: it appears that Boogie, Versatile, JUNKYARDDAWG et al. just don't get it. PacoLoco has figured it out. Sure, on the surface it may seem ridiculous for what is basically a "johns" club to talk about being gentleman or to refer to a bunch of "whores" (sorry VB, but the term fits for the point I'm trying to make) as ladies. But these girls are human beings with feelings, motivations, fears, and the full panapoly of human emotions. Sure they may sometimes try to screw us over as much as they we try to screw them, but they're just trying to make a buck like everyone else and we've got the bucks. There are honest "working-girls" that provide a service for a fee and then there are "whores" that try to rip you off, just as there are good and bad in any profession. If you spend any time with these women you see that and if you spend any time here or in the BM bar you will see that there are very real differences amongst the "johns". If you just see them as "whores" than a john or a monger is probably all you'll ever be. If you understand why they should be treated like human beings, there is hope. There is a world of difference in the way in which most of the vets here approach the hobby and the way many of the newcomers seem to (Coqui despite his other faults, seems to be in the class of gentlemen). Hopefully, like Paco, with the guidance of guys like VB, these new guys will come to understand the distinction or failing that they will either respect the sensitivites and philosophy of senior members and keep their comments civil or they will move on to another board more suited to their attitudes and style. This topic really deserves another thread.

Prolijo,,

I took your advice about the TRolls last week and deleted my responses to same

Now how about an AMEN to "Cookie Trollers" too

Cygnus

Watch the HBO special on Mustang Ranch when you get a chance, the owner insists on the term "Working Girls".

You can't blame VB for trying to lessen the ugly gringo effect, he deals with it 11 hours a day at Blue Marlin (just kidding you VB).

There are some unbelievably sweet girls selling it for money in CR, one of the columbianas in the DR is a medical doctor who wrote me a "scrip" of drugs to take to the farmacia for my case of grip, Paco will back me on this.

Avoid the Hardcores and expect the best from the rest of them and they will amaze you.

aEnough semantics already, and let's get back to the question, please?

Boogie,

1. You've already done thed y Blue Marlin and have bargainned down to $30.00, and you say you even got a freebie (no, Tony the Transvestite doesn't count). In my book, that's an
accomplishment! Good for you.

2. Not all strip joints are rip-offs. See reviews in the "Massage Parlor..." section for some ideas. According to numerous reports here, you can have a lot of fun at some of the less glitzy places for a reasonable amount of cash. Here's challenge #1: Try to spend, say $50.00 max., including cab fares, drinks, everything and get a little sex...maybe a BJ, at a strip club.

3. Another challenge you haven't yet conquered: Try RBC100's list of tico places. Try to beat Herbf's $17.75 afternoon: lunch, two cold beers and sex.

4. Yet another challenge: Find a massage place such as Illusions that hasn't been reviewed here for awhile, and do a comprehensive review on it.
Give reviews of the girl, tell the prices, give accurate directions, add information for Prolijo's map.

5. Yet another challenge: Find the absolutely best fried chicken, lowest price U.S. beer or other hard-to-find commodity, then report your findings here. Or, find a restaurant in San Jose that hasn't been reviewed yet.

6. Catch a bigger deep sea fish.

7. Camp out overnight in Morazan Park

and have the First Annual Boogie Transvestite Beauty Contest....

naw, bad idea.


Point is, even the most seasoned veterans here know that even when you've been there, done that, there's still much more to know about San Jose and Costa Rica. Adventures in the jungles and on the beaches, big surf, learning to dance like the locals...shit man, I bet you don't even know where the big clock is. That's clock, don't get excited.


Whatever you do, two final challenges:



1. Report what you've learned and experienced here.

2. Pony up the...what, $36.00 for a CRT VIP membership before you go on your trip, get the card, use the discounts, join the brotherhood.

And please, just out of etiquette for other guys who are offended by the term, stop using the word, "whore," when describing the ladies. I don't care if it's a good word or a bad word; some members here are offended by it, that should be enough. Show a little class!



And continue to read, read, read. Buena suerte, amigo.

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I don't even know what the original question was, but:
One thing that comes to mind about VB's response, (not defending his crazy old ass) but- having been to CR 6 times last year I've befriended quite a few chicas, VB lives there and has become good friends with many of them. He sees them often, how they live, the problems they have and thus may be more likely to jump to their defense when someone who only goes once in a while just sees them as whores, rubber c*nts or whatever.


Thanks for the compliment Prolijo, but I learned from reading here and watching certain CRT guys in action, and I agree about another thread- it'll be some good info for the newbies. I will start one but since I wish to bring up some other people I'll put it in the VIP section to respect their privacy.

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