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Prolijo...good response. I had forgotten about Astroglide and the water bottle/pen incident. I certainly was not advocating violence of any
kind towards a chica in my post.

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I didn't mean to suggest there was. I'm not talking about decking the poor girl. But if she slaps you or tries to scratch you or something, it is appropriate to grab her wrists to restrain her physically or perhaps even some might give her a light slap back to give her a taste of her own medicine (not an option I would resort to, but hardly a major crime). If she goes all out on you, it might be appropriate to hold her down more forcefully. All these actions, including the ones you took could be construed technically as physical assault, if taken before the wrong judge or jury. I've seen it happen. Actually, it is assault even if you just lift your hand to threaten. Actual physical contact would be considered battery. Of course in these scenarios it is also appropriate to turn the other cheek or simply get away from her or if in your room ask her to leave or call hotel security if needed. So there are non-violent options that should be preferred before resorting to the physical ones mentioned above let alone the more extreme one that we suspect this gringo of having done.When you get right down to it some might say there is never any good reason or excuse to raise a hand to ANYONE any time or place. PERIOD There are always non-violent ways of dealing with any problems. I wasn't talking about good reasons or excuses for this guys behavior. I was talking about partially mitigating factors that while not making his actions excusable might make them more understandable.

You know, I don't want to make it sound like I'm defending this guy. I suspect his only "excuse" or reason for hitting this girl was that he was doing it for kicks, which is definitely sick and reprehensible. I just think that before everyone gets on their moral high horse here and declare that they'd never in anyway physically, emotionally, sexually etc. "abuse" a woman, remember that there are plenty of moral crusaders that think that is EXACTLY what we do by taking sexual advantage of young, emotionally weakened, economically disadvantaged women. When we make our proclamations, I think "We doth protest too much" as if we're defensive and are somehow trying to disassociate ourselves from the more extreme actions taken by this guy. What he did in fact has nothing to do with what we ourselves do and therefore deserves little comment from us. I don't know what really happened and while I might have some morbid curiosity to know the details, I don't really NEED to know.

Good point. In my state the "solicitation of a sexual act" is a Class B misdemeanor. Punishable by a maximum of a $1000 fine and 6 month imprisonment. It is also considered a violent crime. In other words, if you are arrested you will be treated the same as a person who has committed a crime such as battery, armed robbery or murder.

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I still have to wonder what the intent of the original poster was. Why do we want to find a guy or details on this guy?

Prolijo...


In a defensive mode I dont think this is the case. Plus we are talking about Costa Rica...not USA where justice is dependent on the lawyer or judge you know or use. IN this country there has to be some pretty good evidence of abuse...and witnesses for that matter. If the police took this guy away, there must have been some pretty good evidence of abuse or aggression. All the same, its best for all to avoid these situations and not escalate physical violence.

Of course we're still just discussing a rumor of something that MIGHT have happened ...

Probably morbid curiosity, I suffer from that as well, i think its perfectly normal to hear the details of a horror story.

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I had a episode about a month ago.

In the Balmoral Hotel (not my favorite place)
A TICA from the DR tried to renogotiate the terms
we had discussed in full at the DR.

Before we got undressed I told her it was time for her to leave.
She had spoiled the mood.
I definitely do not like a reluctant provider.

She attacked me and generally went nuts.

Then she started screaming bloody murder.
I guess that was because she figured she was
going to get it back from me.

I gently put her in a restraining hold, and took her to the front desk.
She was clearly undamaged.
The guys at the front desk could see I had done her no harm.
Every time she started getting loud I just tightened the hold a little, and she shut up and let me talk.

I asked for the cops to be called.
She calmed down, and I let her leave.

It is not necessary to hurt them, EVER.

The hotel refunded my TICA fee.

Asolutely no reason to ever get physical with a Chica in CR, unless you are being violently attacked by her. I very seldon post Trip Reports; however, I was in an awkward situation last Labor Day at the Presidente Hotel, and several Board Members who were that weekend are familiar with my story.

I arrived on Thursday evening, prior to Labor Day, and after checking in at the Prez cleaned up and went up to the BM. After, gambling for a while, being hit on a few times, and checking out the scene; I started a conversation with a very attractive Tica that I not seen before at the Del Rey. Anyway, she agreed on $ 50, and off to the Presidente we go. Before going to the front desk, I suggested a drink in the New Cafe and she agreed. After that it was front desk, the room, and the "rack". Everything went great, and we both fell asleep for a couple of hours, and woke up arounf 3:00 AM (it was 12:30 when we went to the Prez).

While she was getting dressed, I was preparing her payment. When she saw the $ 50, she began demanding "cien" and getting pretty nasty about it. Yelling, screaming, and cursing at me. I immediately informed her that I would call security, and she informed me "Call security, I will not leave without cien." It began going further down hill from there, and I quickly called Security.

Security arrved in less than what I thought was a minute. She told them I reneged on cien, and I told my story and gave her actually $ 60; and they escorted her out. Never saw her again over the weekend.

Based on her actions and behavior, I believe she would have been capable of starting violence. Just remember Bro's, keep your cool.

Denver

Good advice Denver. The chica hurt herself far worse than you could have. Sure she now on the Presidente blacklist which a whole lot more injurious to her than a slap.

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Tman asked, why do you want to pursue knowledge of this incident? It is a fair question. Because I believe in the "trust but verify" school of action.

I will tell you what I was told. A BM chica who I have become good friends with called me last Saturday night. I have never caught her in a serious lie so I believe what she told me. On Friday night she was smacked around by a client in his room. Security heard the screams and ended up calling the police. The guy was taken away by the police.

The chica says the guy was doped or drunk and began hitting her in the face. I do not know what might have provoked this. She says her face is swollen and bruised with a black eye. She will not leave her house because of the way she looks. She did not ask me for money and I did not offer any.

On Tuesday both were asked to go to the police. The chica says the guy had paid the police to let him go home on the Friday night. On Tuesday she claims she stood her ground against the guy and the police agreed that he should leave the country. She also says the guy was told not to come back to Costa Rica.

As of today, the chica still will not leave the house. As I mention above, "trust but verify." Does anybody know or hear anything about this? I want to verify whether this is bullshit or not.

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Hey Tman ,

You had figured this out from the gate I guess !!
You seem to be great at recognizing the gypsy hustles.
Another case of DelRey 101

Mi Amor,
Cant work send money soon.

Cali

This brought back a memory for me. I had a married lover that I met while they were on vacation at the same spot as myself. We all hit it off well at first, but with me and her really hitting it off well, obviously. He was quite mentally domineering,and physically as well, and I thought something wasn't right. She and I emailed a while and after prodding her it finally came out that he had physically abused her more than once.

When I expressed my absolute disgust and loathing of her asshole husband talking on the phone that nite, she actually asked "you have never hit a woman before?" very seriously, but like it was just the most natural thing in the world.

I am by far not an expert on CR law. From reading a vast amount of posts I thought the SJ Police were a tough bunch of dudes. To give a chica a swollen and bruised face plus a black eye only to get sent back to the USA or wherever sounds strange. I know that type of lenient treatment doesn't happen in my town. It seems they should have at least detained him a few days just to scare the shit out of him.

How does the chica know the guy paid off the police to go "home" on Friday. I imagine "home" is back to his hotel. The way the chicas gossip I am surprised word hasn't spread.

Tman mentioned you need evidence of abuse. Isn't her face and eye enough?

Smells like a Western Union Case to me.

Tell that chica to put on some sun glasses and get back to work.

I was in CR from Mar 29 until April 11th. There was an incident at Hotel Morazon where a chica was alledgedly beaten by 2 Americans. It seems that she was paid in advance for sexual favors, she excused herself and went to the bano. She did not return and later they found her talking to another gringo. I do not know where the violence occurred...but they were later arrested at Del Rey. It was in La Nacion complete with pictures of the guys in policia custody. There names were also listed..but not there home town. The sad thing is that it makes us all look lower in the eyes of the Costa Rican People.

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Abuse of women is pretty common in this culture...not just by angry or drunk gringos.

Thanks for the explanation Sailor. I still have to say her story sounds very suspect for reasons others have raised here. What is her motivation to call you (long distance I presume) to tell this story? Plus the Friday to Tuesday delay in taking action is real suspect. I dont think they would just deport the guy. If you gave us the girls name, we might be able to network and verify the story. At the end of the day though, what difference does it make? Are you going to send her money? Are you able to intervene in some way? Dont think so from there. I still stand by the motto that with most of these prostitutes, when their lips are moving they are lying.

Regardless of the truth of this story or not, I think good points have been made on this thread related to handling troubled women (the world is full of them) and warning guys that this scenario can and has happened down here at various times. Be careful with whom you share your time and bed with. And any guys that would abuse any of these women...even putas when lying...should be sent to the local prison for some severe molestation therapy of their own.