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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:13 am 
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Value, much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder, so, to each his own. Me, I've always been a bargain hunter in search of quality, regardless of the product or service. I would much rather get a $165 Bobby Jones golf shirt for 50 - 75% less at an outlet store or online.

The relative basis for comparison is what brings things into perspective.
The truth is, if you're coming from the states, the price structure for chicas in CR is a great value by comparison, without ever having to negotiate. Even if you pay cien, chances are you're getting a girl who could be charging $300-500 for the hour in the US. If you negotiate multiple hours, the relative savings is even more substantial. So, from this vantage point or mindset, if you will, the difference between $100 and say $70 or $80, is relatively insignificant.

That being said, do I negotiate, hell yes. :twisted: That's part of my fun, plus, like I said, I'm always looking for a good deal. Will I let it get in the way of my fun or particular desires, not any more. I've passed up a few that I might have really wanted, that today, I might just negotiate more time, or just pay the freight if I feel the timing's right.

I've paid cien once, for two hours with this nice Panamanian chica, Carolina. I mean she had butt cleavage spillling out the back of her jeans :shock: , I just thought it was amazing, and built like a brick poop house, madonna!! :lol: I just had to have her. It was a lot of fun and if she's ever got those jeans on again....who knows.:wink:

On my first trip, a couple of years ago, I paid $80 for a beautiful Columbiana named Sofia, great body, big brown eyes and I had a most memorable time with her for close to two hours, tipped her $20 in a fit of naivete and grace, but money well spent regardless.

Most of the time, I try to pay in colones (25-35k), depending on the level of talent. You usually can tell after talking a while if you're going to get any rhythm in a negotiation, after that, it's all about my desire and her attitude to determine the actual number.

These days, if I see someone that I absolutely have to have, and the attitude's right, and my negotiations weren't successful, I'm probably going to sieze the day anyway and get me some. I will no longer deny myself pleasure for ~$20, because I'm worth it, even if she may not be. :P I'll just have to average down at the mp's. :wink:

Just my 2 cojones worth.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:59 am 
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I have posted on this topic many many times. Below is a copy of my post dated Dec. 30th, 2004:

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject:

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Thirdworld,

If we as a group were smart we could effectively enforce the "No Cien" rule kinda like the no fly zone if you will.

However, from all the posts i've read and the 1 timers and big hitters that come down it may be next to impossible. But it just goes to show the chicas really play the game much better and smarter cause they collectively are standing firm on Cien. I typically now have MP sex earlier in the day & much cheaper. I am finding the DR more to just socialize and find the occasional bargain that once flourished there. I think RBC100 has the same philosophy on this.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:16 am 
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Having some drunk, ignorant, over-paying gringos among us is not entirely a bad thing. The girls are playing the lottery. Normally, they're stuck with the $2 and $5 winning tickets, but the specter of winning a $100 prize, or even the jackpot, keeps them coming back.

So, find the guy in the tweed pants and black socks, then give 'em a hug!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:50 am 
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Then we have a group who are informed mongers wanting to hook up with the hotter girls and are willing top pay $60 to $80 for a few hours of which fits quite a few of our group


I can't believe RBC said this.

there are plenty of hot girls, I mean the are on fire at 747, cha cha, 6th street, 8th avenue and other places around the city.

the more you pay simply doesn't convert to HOTTER

This is not an opinion....It's fact


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I totally agree with you Crbound.I was just stating observations.I have observed a significant group of our members are frequent visitor and I would assume informed who are willing to pay $60 to$80 for one of the better looking Del Rey girls.I didn't say I was one of the group.$50 is about the most I have ever payed even when I was a newbie.I mainly go to the Del Rey to visit freinds and sometimes get a gir.Sunday morning is one of those times as there are few options available.I guess I ahve about controling prices at the Del Rey but I do control what I spend and usually chose outher options.I find the local place girls less hardened for the most part.I have found virtually no correlation between price paid and quality of service.It just takes a bit more searching in the local places to find the good looking girls.I enjoy that part of the hunt myself.rbc100

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:33 pm 
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Hey, isn't price fixing an anti-trust problem? Does CR have anti-trust laws?
It really is supply and demand, anyway. The only way to spread influence of "no cien" is for more hobbyists to know about CRT. If I went down there without the knowledge I have gotten here, I could easily get suckered too. Based on the the world of dating gringas, $100 for a GFE w hot s*x guaranteed, is a smokin bargain. However, I will not pay cien, when I get there, just because I know I don't have to. Plus I am a cheap a**hole. :shock: Hey wait.... these girls should be paying ME... that's what the gringas tell me after they are blessed w tasting my 'talents'... lucky souls :twisted:

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Every chica that I gave a "No Cien" card to came down in price. One was a red headed Colombiana with beautiful 34C that I still see for $60.00 with no set time.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:46 am 
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Economics 101 revisited:

The Blue Marlin is a free and open market. In that market the vendors can present their product, value their product and negotiate deals. The consumer can view that product, estimated value and negotiate a deal. Not all vendors market their product well, establish realistic values or poses good negotiating skills. Not all consumers view the product through the same eyes, have the same value system or are thinking well when they negotiate. There fore you have variable outcomes.

It is my belief that things have just not change that much. My first visit was in February 1997. The first young lady I talked to gave me a price of $100. After I frowned she immediately went to $70. At that point I offered her $80 saying she was worth more than $70. She laughed and I had a great time. I'll bet anyone of you that come the night of May 7th that I can get the same deal within 30 minutes of arriving at the Del Rey.



PS: That is unless there is a fire sale going on then I can do better.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:45 pm 
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There are a lot of good ideas here but the bottom line is, it must be done.

I understand that a lot of gringos come to CR thinking $100 is a great deal and in Vegas with the price of the trade there, CR is like going to the dollar store in comparison. But this is a 3rd world country and we are being taken advantage of.

I think it is up to us to let the non-CR posters know what to do. If you discreetly just pass these cards around to other mongers at DR, I know it will stick. I will try it in July and see what happens.

Yes Zona Blue, Oasis, Idem and many other places have bargains and are fun but most close early and I don't blame them for not wanting to deal with drunken slobs at wee hours of the morning. But loving a variety of pleasure there is a certain thing about sitting at one of the bars at DR, having a drink, watching the talent go by in droves and then making your selection. I will not pay $100 and at DR on a weekend night and I got 2 beautiful women down to $80, but that is still about $30 too much. Sunday, Monday and Tuesday are a little easier to negotiate, but I like pootie tang 7 days a week.

If we stick together on this and inform the unknowing, it can work. Be discreet and the women will never know what hit them, especially when no one in the bars are offering more than $50.


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For late night IDEM is open till midnight which is plenty late for me.

Best method is pass out biz cards with the costaricaticas.com website address only, the mongers will educate themselves.

The other methods like "No Cien" T-shirts are fun but dangerous for your health according to Showerhead.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:08 pm 
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You are all good man with good intentions:

I am sorry to tell you you're not going to turn the Blue Marlin into a one price MP. If I thought you had any chance of succeeding I would do my best to undermined it. The Blue Marlin is a unique environment to tinker with it in any way could destroy the whole thing.
The upward pressure on price is what keeps the pond well-stocked. Spend more time learning to finish and less time trying to make the fish easier to catch.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:30 pm 
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I agree with Lee,
All this complaining about "NO Cien" is overkill and a bunch of hype over nothing, and planning to influence the market, over nothing, is totally unecessary IMO.
Vegas7-11 wrote:
Does anyone think that $100 a pop in the CR DR casino is a bit too much?

If by "a pop" you mean 1 hour then yes.
But exactly WHO is being forced to pay 100 for an hour Vegas7-11? Nobody.
If you went down there and paid 100 for every chica then who's fault is that?
The few chicas that do demand 100/hr. have no monopoly over the market or any influence over the ones I get for 25k.
I have paid cien once, to a superfine chica from Aruba that I just had to have, :twisted: (and she was worth every colone to me.)
Vegas7-11 wrote:
There are a lot of good ideas here but the bottom line is, it must be done.
Why?
There is no reason to ever pay 100 for an hour if you don't want to. Just learn to negotiate and "play the game." which for me includes making the chica laugh & feel comfortable, I can get a good deal and a great session most every time, for much less than 100 bucks. I pulled one out of the DR last trip for 15k, guess what her starting price was? Cien.
I think a few guys passing out "no cien" business cards will have absolutely no influence over the chicas starting the negotiation at "cien".

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Pacoloco:
Down boy. There is some noticeable aggression there. Appreciate the support but please no violence. Just kidding.
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Allright Lee, That's it.
I've had just about enough of your smart ass comments,
don't make me come down there... :lol:

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Pacoloco:
like you need an excuse to go South. Your behavior is shameful making threats against an old man. Next thing you know you will be threatening old men playing musical instruments.
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