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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:15 pm 
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So an anonymous list on a secret hidden Facebook page. What could go wrong?

Hahaha. The positives outweigh the negatives. Worst case scenario for innocent chica put on the list is her business is reduced. Worst case for the guy that didn't heed the list is he gets robbed, drugged, or seriously hurt. Which one is worst? And like I said the girls on the list currently are known to have done this stuff . There is a description of the reason why they are the list on the document, facebook link, and other important comments.


You understand Costa Rican defamation laws?

An innocent chica had her livelihood destroyed by an accusation here. Unproved insinuations and allegations can ruin people's lives.

And what good is your double-secret list if it's only accessible by the people who make the allegations?

Obviously it has to be double-secret to avoid fallout. I

Let me clarify a few things:
1. This list was created from the things happening in Medellin Colombia. Not Costa Rica. But it involves worldwide mongering and even hotels where mongers were repeatedly robbed (Dominican republic).
2. The girls put on the list have done serious things. Scoping, sending goons after guys, etc. Some have been banned from the Mansion hotel. Which means they are on actually banned list. You can not make this stuff up. You can't.
3. So far, no Costa Rican chica has been put on the list. Not because there are not mala Costa Rican chicas, but because the sufficient evidence and info has not been brought forth. Even in General info thread, two threads talk about bad chicas and even have stories. Even their info is not enough to put a chica on the list. We look at everything, even how the person has interacted with others in the past. This is meant to protect everyone.
4. In my last trip in December, my friend has money stolen from his wallet by a chica at the Del rey. What was done to the chica? Nothing. So far the chica is not put on the list because not enough info is present to identify her. Im sure, that same chica is stealing from other mongers too who don't know to watch out from them. Honestly, it is much easier to put a bad chica on the list since most of the girls are contacted through face book. This is not the case in Costa Rica. This list is meant to be solid. But so far it is still needs a lot of work.


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The foro is a better venue for such. You will find good and bad reviews there, not hidden, but published for all to see (and publicly challenged if warranted). There is no concern over 'defamation' as such. This activity is not illegal, so you cannot smear a prostitute's character.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:00 pm 
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allday64 wrote:
Let me clarify a few things:
1. This list was created from the things happening in Medellin Colombia. Not Costa Rica. But it involves worldwide mongering and even hotels where mongers were repeatedly robbed (Dominican republic).
2. The girls put on the list have done serious things. Scoping, sending goons after guys, etc. Some have been banned from the Mansion hotel. Which means they are on actually banned list. You can not make this stuff up. You can't.
3. So far, no Costa Rican chica has been put on the list. Not because there are not mala Costa Rican chicas, but because the sufficient evidence and info has not been brought forth. Even in General info thread, two threads talk about bad chicas and even have stories. Even their info is not enough to put a chica on the list. We look at everything, even how the person has interacted with others in the past. This is meant to protect everyone.
4. In my last trip in December, my friend has money stolen from his wallet by a chica at the Del rey. What was done to the chica? Nothing. So far the chica is not put on the list because not enough info is present to identify her. Im sure, that same chica is stealing from other mongers too who don't know to watch out from them. Honestly, it is much easier to put a bad chica on the list since most of the girls are contacted through face book. This is not the case in Costa Rica. This list is meant to be solid. But so far it is still needs a lot of work.

In another thread, you said a chica being discussed could be added to the list. The only complaint was by a person who admitted that he was so drunk at another time that he doesn't remember what he did. And his complaint was that she would not allow full penetration - not hardly something harmful.

Being banned from the Mansion doesn't hold much weight. I think that depends on the mode of Greg at the time. On any given day, you will probably find a chica at the Mansion who has previously been banned.

You have admitted that you don't have much regard for the chicas well-being. You said "Worst case scenario for innocent chica put on the list is her business is reduced." I think you don't understand the impact that could have on her life. Many of the chicas use this profession to support an extended family. When her earnings are reduced, it affects multiple people.


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The foro is a better venue for such. You will find good and bad reviews there, not hidden, but published for all to see (and publicly challenged if warranted). There is no concern over 'defamation' as such. This activity is not illegal, so you cannot smear a prostitute's character.
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First, remember that President Chinchilla sued a hotel owner over remarks he made on Facebook. Yes, she lost. It still went to court.

In Costa Rica, people caught on video committing crimes have sued their accusers for slander / defamation. Their slander and defamation law is dangerous to the unwary.

And I think it's possible to "smear a prostitute's character". For every girl that is openly "working" in a Tico environment that can fire back on Foro del Costa Rica there are girls that are "semi-pros" or "part-timers" supplementing their income whose names you'll never see there.

These girls don't want their part-time work rubbed in the faces of their family and friends. For example - a Badoo or Tinder match that goes out with a 'generous' gringo 2x or more her age or a law student that 'dates' generous gringos to pay the bills.

A few false insinuations and character is smeared. For example, a vague accusation that there was an (unstated) problem and the OIJ is investigating the girl. Impossible for most people to prove or disprove. Or a statement on a forum that so-and-so gave the poster an STD.

I agree that for those girls that are openly working (or use a nom le sexe) in a Tico setting Foro de Costa Rica does provide a platform for both review and rebuttal.

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Think long and hard before you "bad mouth" a girl who needs money so much more than you do.

If you're CERTAIN that she committed a criminal act, have at it. Otherwise, don't hurt the girls because of your own personal opinion. It's always possible that YOU are the problem, and not her.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:29 pm 
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Think long and hard before you "bad mouth" a girl who needs money so much more than you do.

If you're CERTAIN that she committed a criminal act, have at it. Otherwise, don't hurt the girls because of your own personal opinion. It's always possible that YOU are the problem, and not her.


Omg. I don't understand why you guys think some of these girls don't steal or drug guys. I don't get it. If you go to Colombia and ask the locals, they will tell you it happens. The locals are even apprehensive and precautious because crime, robbing, and drugging do happen. Some of the guys in the group gave the list flack because they felt that way more girls should be on the list then there are now. They of course couldn't believe so few girls are bad chicas in a big city as Medellin. The list is not big because the girls on the list have definitively done what is listed. Definitively. I don't get why you guys are defending girls that have in the past and can cause great harm to other mongers. I am not trying to stop any girl from making money. But I will not let another monger be harmed for things a bad chica is liable to do based off of her past.

And second of all, I've never had a problem with a chica. Thats because I'm smart enough to take precautions, and discuss everything straight up before we agreed to go. That usually filters a lot of the bad ones which I base off the way the respond to questions, attitude, etc. With my last Del Rey experience in December, the girls I had were really good because of this.


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allday64 wrote:
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Think long and hard before you "bad mouth" a girl who needs money so much more than you do.

If you're CERTAIN that she committed a criminal act, have at it. Otherwise, don't hurt the girls because of your own personal opinion. It's always possible that YOU are the problem, and not her.


Omg. I don't understand why you guys think some of these girls don't steal or drug guys. I don't get it. If you go to Colombia and ask the locals, they will tell you it happens. I go to San Jose, so what happens in Columbia is not germane to me. The locals are even apprehensive and precautiois because crime, robbing, and drugging do happen. Some of the guys in the group gave the list flack because they felt that way more girls should be on the list then there are now. They of course couldn't believe so few girls are bad chicas in a big city as Medellin. What group? The list is not big because the girls on the list have definitively done what is listed. Definitively. I don't get why you guys are defending girls that have in the past and can cause great harm to other mongers. Since we have no clue who these girls are and they are in Columbia, not Costa Rica, no one has defended one of the girls on your secret list. I am not trying to stop any girl from making money. I think you think that. But I will not let another monger be harmed for things a bad chica is liable to do based off of her past. How does your secret Facebook group / list that only a select few can see do that?

And second of all, I've never had a problem with a chica. Thats because I'm smart enough to take precautions, and discuss everything straight up before we agreed to go. That usually filters a lot of the bad ones which I base off the way the respond to questions, attitude, etc.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:51 pm 
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MM3 wrote:
allday64 wrote:
Rac wrote:
Think long and hard before you "bad mouth" a girl who needs money so much more than you do.

If you're CERTAIN that she committed a criminal act, have at it. Otherwise, don't hurt the girls because of your own personal opinion. It's always possible that YOU are the problem, and not her.


Omg. I don't understand why you guys think some of these girls don't steal or drug guys. I don't get it. If you go to Colombia and ask the locals, they will tell you it happens. I go to San Jose, so what happens in Columbia is not germane to me. The locals are even apprehensive and precautiois because crime, robbing, and drugging do happen. Some of the guys in the group gave the list flack because they felt that way more girls should be on the list then there are now. They of course couldn't believe so few girls are bad chicas in a big city as Medellin. What group? The list is not big because the girls on the list have definitively done what is listed. Definitively. I don't get why you guys are defending girls that have in the past and can cause great harm to other mongers. Since we have no clue who these girls are and they are in Columbia, not Costa Rica, no one has defended one of the girls on your secret list. I am not trying to stop any girl from making money. I think you think that. But I will not let another monger be harmed for things a bad chica is liable to do based off of her past. How does your secret Facebook group / list that only a select few can see do that?

And second of all, I've never had a problem with a chica. Thats because I'm smart enough to take precautions, and discuss everything straight up before we agreed to go. That usually filters a lot of the bad ones which I base off the way the respond to questions, attitude, etc.

I respect your questions and curiosity. All I'm going to say is the group isn't small. It has a 1,400+ worldwide mongers in it.


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allday64 wrote:
I respect your questions and curiosity. All I'm going to say is the group isn't small. It has a 1,400+ worldwide mongers in it.


You have a secret 1,400+ member monger grop on Facebook that none of us know about?

That's a better kept secret than the Manhattan Project.

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Phucking insane, on many levels. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:00 pm 
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Are there problem girls?

Of course.

How do I avoid them?

By a) sticking to girls I know and b) using my own judgement and that of mongers I know and trust to determine if a a new chica is worth seeing.

A secret Facebook list sounds so creepy. Like Trump's Muslim registry or the TSA blacklist.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:30 pm 
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Miamiheller wrote:
Are there problem girls?

Of course.

How do I avoid them?

By a) sticking to girls I know and b) using my own judgement and that of mongers I know and trust to determine if a a new chica is worth seeing.

A secret Facebook list sounds so creepy. Like Trump's Muslim registry or the TSA blacklist.

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I understand. But this is not just for you, its honestly for everybody. You might not get harmed but another monger potentially can. Especially the ones that have never mongered before and don't know better. I've seen and hear it time and time again. Not everyone uses super common sense in this game to be able to avoid mala women. Common sense is actually quite lacking based of the some of the stuff these women are able to pull on some of these guys. I can not help or save these guys. Its honestly part of the game. But if it does involve stealing, drugging, at least they can be forewarned.


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Phucking insane, on many levels. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Yea. Best thing about the list we can post pics and videos in our group and not worry about some guy showing his favorita resulting in her going on a rage. On this site more pics should be posted of the girls but guys ruin it for the others and scare others into doing so.


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Hey Allday.........

If you can clear your head long enough to re-read my comment, you'll see that I encouraged the "outing" of any girls who would steal or drug guys. I wasn't born yesterday. I know wassup about our hobby. My comment was directed at small-minded mongers who hurt INNOCENT girls.

Don't be a dumb-ass and hurt innocent girls.

By the way, what does it mean if some guy is PRECAUTIOIS :?: :roll:


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allday64 wrote:
Yea. Best thing about the list we can post pics and videos in our group and not worry about some guy showing his favorita resulting in her going on a rage. On this site more pics should be posted of the girls but guys ruin it for the others and scare others into doing so.


So, how did you become part of the "we" that has this awesome 1400+ monger hidden Facebook page that details so much about bad chicas (including pictures & video) in MDE (and worldwide - but not CR) from never having been there (link here)?

And won't the first rule of awesome 1400+ monger hidden Facebook page that details so much about chicas (including pictures & video) be not to talk about awesome 1400+ monger hidden Facebook page that details so much about bad chicas (including pictures & video)?

Seriously? If you talk about it, it's not a secret. And with 1400+ members of the double-secret Facebook page...

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If you go to Colombia and ask the locals, they will tell you it happens. The locals are even apprehensive and precautious because crime, robbing, and drugging do happen.


Whether this is true or not (and I assume it is), when did you talk to a local in Columbia? Or is this conventional wisdom from the other 1400+ mongers in the secret Facebook page group?

I spend a lot of time in CR. I've never been to Columbia. I can talk about CR from my experience.

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