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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:52 am 
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Devo wrote:
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Obama is OK with the South border being wide open

A quick scan of this CBP wiki shows what a load of wholey crapoley your statement is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Custo ... Protection


Obama is up to his neck in scandals and failures with an approval rating lower than Nixons, yet the sheep keep drinking the Kool-Aid. :roll:

Are you Dr. Heckle or Mr. Jive?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:02 am 
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U.S. Customs freaks out if I bring a salad into the states but Obama is OK with the South border being wide open and people flying in with Ebola.

I think you mean the 2% approval rating Congress.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:22 am 
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Ebola is some scary shit, if it ever mutates (again) to become airborne we're all phucked. I say "again" as it did once in a research facility. Read The Hot Zone by Richard Preston.

Ebola use to require fairly direct blood contact and was spread by the ritual washing of the dead. It was easily contained by identifying it and halting the practice. With the more rapid spread on this outbreak, I suspect it has already mutated to a degree, but not full blown airborne.

There is no vaccine, there are some experimental treatment drugs that can arrest the virus if caught early enough, it brings the mortality rate down to about 25% from the 50% to 90% range (depending on the information source.)

You can be infected with Ebola for 21 days before developing symptoms.

But, WTF, we are overdue for a good pandemic. Too many of us on the planet now and nature needs to cull the herd.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:30 pm 
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I don't think we are being told the truth about how Ebola is spread. All the information I have read said the nurse in Spain who was infected, was wearing a hazmat suit every time she entered the infected patients' rooms. She would have to be rather careless if she came in contact with bodily fluids from the patients.

It is time to stop all commercial flights out of the West African countries where the virus has been detected, and have special flights for health-care workers and others who have a need to travel in and out of those countries.

All I hear from the Obama administration is that other countries are not doing enough to stop the spread of the virus, and Obama will announce more safety measures in the next few days. It's time for preventive action, not reaction!


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It is time to stop all commercial flights out of the West African countries where the virus has been detected, and have special flights for health-care workers... It's time for preventive action, not reaction!

I agree. Let's stop it at its source with stringent public-health measures AND put into effect a quarantine.

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You can be infected with Ebola for 21 days before developing symptoms.

But, WTF, we are overdue for a good pandemic. Too many of us on the planet now and nature needs to cull the herd.

Wouldn't mind if that were concentrated on those profiting from despoiling the planet as well as the eternally-suffering peasants. It's the asymptotic-for-21-days part that really scares me.

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JazzboCR wrote:
GoodDayJohn wrote:

It is time to stop all commercial flights out of the West African countries where the virus has been detected, and have special flights for health-care workers... It's time for preventive action, not reaction!

I agree. Let's stop it at its source with stringent public-health measures AND put into effect a quarantine.

Damned Jazzbo, we finally agree on something. Well, we did agree that I picked up a hot chica years ago when we were both staying at the Dunn Inn. :) Victoria, great memories!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:42 am 
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GoodDayJohn wrote:
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GoodDayJohn wrote:

It is time to stop all commercial flights out of the West African countries where the virus has been detected, and have special flights for health-care workers... It's time for preventive action, not reaction!

I agree. Let's stop it at its source with stringent public-health measures AND put into effect a quarantine.

Damned Jazzbo, we finally agree on something. Well, we did agree that I picked up a hot chica years ago when we were both staying at the Dunn Inn. :) Victoria, great memories!

And her mama was some kind of fine too, in a demure manner.
My one problem with quarantine is enforcing it. Eartags on everybody trying to leave by whatever means, including diplomats, and stringent enforcement by regimes that can't even run public health facilities effectively and without rampant corruption? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKh6XxYbbIc << hope you enjoyed the "Friskies" ad. TCFW.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:13 am 
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Since that guy was diagnosed in Dallas I have been reading just about everything I can get my hands on about this. The family in quarantine is 15 miles from me. I am also planning a trip to SJO in a couple weeks and am nervous about whether or not to cancel (i.e. avoid international airports). Point is that this is hitting close to my home and I have been reading a LOT.

The one thing that keeps coming up is the mutation thing and it changing to airborne. Something that made me feel a lot better about all of this that I try to share whenever I can is that it won't. In the 100 years we have been studying microbiology no virus has ever changed the way it is transmitted between humans. HIV, Hep C, H1N1, the goddammed black plague...no matter how many cases have been reported, how many years it has been around, or how many opportunities they have had to mutate (and they DO mutate) not one of them has EVER mutated the way that they were transmitted. (BigMikeinc: The pig/monkey ebola case in 2012 can not be reproduced no matter how hard they try. They are now confident that it was spread between the cages by blood spatters while cleaning the cages.)

So knowing that fact shows it really is pretty damned hard to catch. The guy here in Dallas lived with a family in a tiny apartment and (so far) none of them have it. This family was taking care of him (one was his fiancé), cleaning up his puke and dookie for a week before he went into the hospital and none of them caught it. Even if one of those people ends up showing symptoms I'm pretty optimistic that even if there are more cases here in the U.S. we are going to contain it.

That's all. I just try to share that mutation fact whenever I can. It made me feel better. Any news article that says it could become airborne is just trying to scare you into clicking on them.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:40 pm 
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"[quote="Techlife97"]Since that guy was diagnosed in Dallas I have been reading just about everything I can get my hands on about this. The family in quarantine is 15 miles from me. I am also planning a trip to SJO in a couple weeks and am nervous about whether or not to cancel (i.e. avoid international airports). Point is that this is hitting close to my home and I have been reading a LOT." -Techlife97

NEVER let anything stop you from coming to Costa Rica !!! :!: :!: :!:

Here's a little blurb on Ebola vs the upcoming Flu season.

http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVjH ... o7jRjak0k-

Flu deaths are MINIMUM 3,000 a year in USA and possibly much much higher, 90% of the deaths are people over 65. If you're gonna worry about getting sick in the airport or on a jet, chances are you might catch the flu during flu "season" there. So if you're going to be scared of going to airports, worry about the flu and don't worry about Ebola. :(

Every time I return from Costa Rica I catch the sicocominbac virus and later suffer from lack of vitamin P and the supplements in the US are hard to find and expensive. :twisted: :cry: :(

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:43 pm 
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I actually was not referring to the 2012 study, I was referring to Ebola Retson or sometimes called the Retson virus.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:10 pm 
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Netgems: Thanks for the pep talk. The closer it gets the closer to 100% I agree with you.

BigMike: My mistake. I looked up Restin and it is good information. I hadn't found that before. You also obviously know what I thought you meant so I won't clarify. Either way, both cases kind of support the point that humans just need to keep washing their hands and stay smart. Great advice in general, really.


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