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Of those who've had 1 or more novias in CR (as defined above)
I am or was a permanent or semi-permanent resident of CR when I had any novia experience 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
I've not been a permanent or semi-permanent resident of CR and I've had a successful novia relationship for 6 months or more that did not end badly, but she was a non-pro 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
I've not been a permanent or semi-permanent resident of CR and I've had a successful novia relationship for 6 months or more that did not end badly, and I met her at the DR or similar place and/or she was pro or semi-pro 44%  44%  [ 8 ]
I've not been a permanent or semi-permanent resident of CR and I met my novia(s) at the DR or similar place and/or she was pro or semi-pro and the relationship lasted less than 6 months and/or it ended "badly" 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
And a special question for the 33% who said they never had a nova, but would consider it if the right chica came along, still think a sustainable novia experience is possible with a "working girl" 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 18
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:22 pm 
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Man….you guys are being so analytical talking about this Novia stuff. OK…let me put myself in front of the firing squad and see if you amateur psychologists can analyze this.

I did have what I would consider a successful Novio/Novia relationship with a Pro. I have been seeing her for almost two years and just recently broke off the relationship because, I think, we have been with each other long enough and it’s time to move on. She is a Colombiana (no surprise to anyone here) and works at the Blue Marlin. The only guys that knew I was seeing her were Circus, Easy, Tman and Pidd.

Anyway, I don’t want to make this a long story so I’ll keep it short. We met at the Blue Marlin a couple of years ago and have been going back many times to CR to spend time with her (this is part of the reason why I make 11 trips to CR in one year). When I’m in CR she sees me exclusively and I give her some money while I’m there but never send her money. She never asked me to send her any money. Only to bring her any gift from the US if I choose to do so. I also let her know that I cannot give her a lot of money so if someone she has been with before is in town and wants her company, she can work if she wants to and I would understand. She is also very understanding if I wanted to have sex with other women and is never overly jealous. I know she is a little jealous when she sees me with other women during the day. But every night I spend my time with her.

When I’m in town our normal routine is to go have lunches, dinners and breakfasts; go dancing; taking side trips to Manuel/Antonio and do the Calypso tour; and to the movies on Sundays. We also spend a lot of time talking about many things…. about life in general. Sometime when I’m with her I forget that she is a pro working at the Blue Marlin but only just another girlfriend I have had back in the US. She is fairly an attractive girl and a great personality. She is soft spoken and polite. Sex with her is good and not anything mind blowing so that is not the reason why she is my girlfriend. I chose her to be my girlfriend as a whole person and not just because the sex was incredible or that she had a smoking hot body (her body was fairly nice but not a smoking hot body). I don’t think I will be able to find someone like this again at the Blue Marlin. Somewhere else perhaps, but not at the BM.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:39 pm 
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Dino.....

Spoken like a true veteran monger. A novia that knows how to play by the rules.

All you other Novia guys need to take a page out of Dino's book


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:55 pm 
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Hi guys

I am new to the site and would like to submit an observation.
...After reading most all the current threads and topics.

I have been going to Thailand and Asia for several years.
Thought I would expand my horizons and try CR.

As for this thread I see striking similarities with Th. and Cr girls.
Also include Cambodia, Phillippines, TJ, Singapore Etc.

I think it is all about human nature - needs and wants.
Maslow had an heirarchy of needs that seems to hold true still.

So do the 'girls of the night'. in any country.
They have some deeps seated values (or lack of).

My thought is that I cannot catch a Marlin with my line in a goldfish bowl.
So why would I expect ot 'catch' a 'regular' girl in the BM?

Furthermore if I am in the BM - (or CR, Th., Cam., Phil., etc.)
I wouldn't think that's what I am looking for (LTR)-
Or I am really trying to fool myself by saying I want one -
and looking whereI know they dont exist..

There are places where the girls are expressing LTR needs.
Yes, mail order brides. At least they are on the same page.
No misunderstandings about subversion here either.
But at least neither party is in the wrong boat.

I don't think most guys go to any of these 'destinations. with the expectation of what they find in terms of the newly coined GFFE. I went and still go for the adventure, control and ability to say goodbye. I have on accasion gotten close but remained steadfast in caution so as not to get too heavily vested in any one particular situation. I did a lot of research and was keen to notice the actions I was told I would see. I was a good student and have proffered from it. I have watched the form letter go out to the 'list', I have actually written 'invoices' for the girls in the internet shops to send to their 'tilacs' (BF). I have been in the car when BF Germany called, in bed when BF Switzerland called, and more, thus I know I am not the only one, by that fact alone I am sharing with at least one other. It is imperative to remember how skilled these girls become at their trade. They make us forget why we really came in the first place and make us believe there is more at hand. Just like the lap dancer that almost lets you... at the end of the song. Just one more song and you'll be there, just like the girl next door that will let you "when we get married".

LTR's do happen and do exist. How many and how long... who knows.
What is long (sucessful) anyways? Remember, half of all marriages right here in the good ole USA end in divorce at some time. I think it is successful for as long as it is, then it's not.

I have an attorney friend who right now is in the process of marrying a Thai girl. Good luck to him. The watchword over there is that "you can take the girl out of the bar but cannot take the bar out of the girl". He is doing this knowing very well all the dangers and trying to take every precaution to KHA. (As in strong pre-nup plus). Good luck to him.

Can anybody tell me what all I just said here?


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Dino,
That is exactly the type of post I was looking for, though the not necessarily the particular answer I expected. Knowing you personally, I'm sure you accurately assessed and described the situation. Evidentally, finding a LTR not based purely on money is possible at the DR/BM though based on your closing comment still not something to be expected. I suspect that chicas of your novia's character are the exception, not the norm. I also believe that the fact that as an experienced whorticulturalist with a level head you were able to manage (or train if you will) your girl had a lot to do with your success. I don't think that is something most guys would be able to do so well.

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I don't think most guys go to any of these 'destinations. with the expectation of what they find in terms of the newly coined GFFE. I went and still go for the adventure, control and ability to say goodbye. I have on accasion gotten close but remained steadfast in caution so as not to get too heavily vested in any one particular situation.

I think you are wrong as evidenced by many of the posts I have read on this board. I think you maybe close to the middle or a GFFE seeker (but not quite a LAL guy), but apparently much more than just a few guys seem to fall on the other side of GFFE and are much closer to being actual GFE seekers


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Yes, Prolijo..I would have to place her in the "exception" and not the norm category. As all these year that I have been traveling to CR she is the only one that I have found to be honest about everything.

I will admit that I am just like some of you guys here that I don't have any special skills in dealing with the ladies or claim to be an expert on how to deal successfully with ladies (GFE expert). But I just use a little common sense that I have in choosing certain ladies that would enjoy my company. This one time I got very lucky. If I had met her under a different circumstances, she would probably be Mrs. Dino. :roll: :lol:

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Evidentally, finding a LTR not based purely on money is possible at the DR/BM though based on your closing comment still not something to be expected.

Couldn't agree more. Anyone who would go in there looking for love is truly lost. I have had MANY, MANY converstions with my chica about this subject. And guess what....(this is what she says, of course) MANY MEN ARE LOOKING FOR LOVE THERE. According to her, she has lost count of how many men propose marriage and offer a trip to the USA. First date none the less. Speaking of what gringos talk about in the room, could we start a thread on that one!
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I think it is successful for as long as it is, then it's not.
Simple but so insightful. No one can define that except the 2 involved.
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So far, there have been 5 guys, besides Dapanz, who have picked option#3. Those are the guys that I really want to hear from. Don't be shy.

Not likely these guys will come forward. It's a tough gig. But I wish they would. I'll be sympathetic to the cause. These are the only interesting threads anymore. I can only hear so many trip reports. LOL J/K Come forward men.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:52 pm 
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Hi


I still do not think anyone would conciously go to the BM or any such place thinking they are going to find the girl of their dreams. Sure - she will be easy - and she will let you think you are the man of her dreams, but that is the part I said comes later and unexpectedly.

Bring her home to Mama and say - "met her in a whoremongers bar".
"but she is really a nice girl".

I think these are the guys that I said are "fooling themselves", and maybe trying to fool the rest of us. We may say one thing but our actions really tell the story. If anybody were seriously looking for LTR then they would go to Latinlove.com, church, the mall, anywhere but BM's. I am not saying that they do not find it there... but it is accidental and the raw materials are too flawed for a great final product.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:53 pm 
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What is it?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:36 pm 
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LAL Guy, What is it?

https://costaricaticas.com/phpbb2/vi ... php?t=2934
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I still do not think anyone would conciously go to the BM or any such place thinking they are going to find the girl of their dreams.

You would be surprised.

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