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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:12 pm 
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I agree with much of what has been said here about "brotherhood and camaraderie" and about the fact people are going to Medellin, Rio and other places.

One thing that has not been said is that airfare to CR has slowly risen. About 2 years ago I saw tiks from Baltimore at just a little over $300. I bought a tik (in early July) for my just completed August trip for $360. I just looked in the last few days and tiks out to next May are creeping up toward $500! Higher airfare will definitely make the Gulch a quieter place.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:38 pm 
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Costa Rica is just another stop on the world-wide monger tour... Angeles City, Manila, Pattaya, Patong, Patpong, Nana, Cowboy, Orchard Towers, Wan Chai, Sihanookville, Phnom Penh, Amsterdam, Prague, Rio, Medellin, Cali, TJ, Nuevo Laredo, etc... The game is the same, only the faces & locales change...

Some places fall out of favor, people get tired of the scene and move on... Things never seem to be as good as the 'good ole days'... :wink:

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Good post my dear wingman Shadowman. In some ways, I think the fact that people have posted so often on the same topic disuades updates, which is a shame. I remember years ago asking about the bets ball lickers in MPs, and actaully got direct, non sarcastic responses (without twenty people tell me, YMMV, I am, no shit). I think the mere fact that there are now ten times as many people than even a few years ago has changed things. I find myself actauly asking for concret information via PMs- seems to work better these days..

Have a great time next week in SJO- I wish I could be there reliving old times.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:05 am 
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I agree with Brother Hank Daman's thesis that a lot of info gets passed via PM. Another factor may be that the chat section bleeds off a lot of time and energy from formerly more active posters.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:42 am 
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A lot of guys are getting it directly also. One member told me last week that while staying in SJ, he met nothing but really great guys hanging at the usual haunts like Dunn Inn and SL. Said that they were all very nice and happy to show him around and give him the scoop. Didn't have to put it out on the board and deal with 87 clowns all vying for attention, seeing who could be more clever... I found the same thing last time I was in SJ. Great group of guys in person at both spots.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:01 pm 
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Not to mention no matter how many times advice is rehashed, the moment a monger see's a chica he's just "gotta have" no amount of advice is going to keep him from doing what he wants.. :|

With that said, this board has been around now for a minute so many things have been covered. When I tell a guy to check out this site; one of the things I always say is "if you have a question, its been answered already".. You almost can't even think of something that hasn't been asked before..

Also, with the new chat function its much faster to get a question answered. It's also a good place for laughs now and then :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:01 pm 
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well, Hank, Jazzbo and Cujo get it anyway...

For the pinheads that are rolling their eyes and pointing out the search function, you missed the point of the post. This isn't about finding information, it's about the quality of available current information. As I pointed out earlier on, and as some of the more experienced and astute among you have also noticed, much of the communication seems to have moved from the site pages off to the back-channels (PM, word of mouth, email etc) where the membership doesn't see it.

My theory about this is that as the membership has grown, and cases of chica access have increased, that the smaller and more intimate group that used to exist and shared everything doesn't feel as close to the membership as it used to, and because of that is less likely to make an effort to get their info out there, except to those members of that original little group they still feel comfortable with. This isn't everyone, of course.

As for those of us who also play in different locales the fact that many have moved off to MDE or Pattaya or what-have-you wouldn't mean that less info should be coming out. In fact, since the membership is growing we should be getting more, not less, than we used to. The fact that the info all seems to revolve around the DR, SL , ZB and a few other select venues, instead of encompassing everything including the other smaller places, the Paseo Colon area etc, and which included current pricing, seems to indicate to me that the membership is becoming as a group is becoming a diluted, less informed version of its current self.

For those who complain about rehashing, yes its true that it can get tiresome. It's also true that it's necessary, if you substitute "update" for rehash. New prices, people, management, location, concerns etc etc are the lifeblood of the core material for a site like this. That's what makes this site better than ISG or WSG or the like. What good is information from 2004? That's 5 generations of information behind, and almost completely valueless, even if it does generate 100 hits in a search. For those of you who want to immediately run over to those sites and point out that there's more current info than 2004 over there, don't bother. I was making a point, not publishing a paper.

I can easily remember a time in the not too distant past where with the search engine I could easily obtain what current pricing was for just about any MP in town, shithole or not, and where regular reports would come out of places like the Molino Rojo or the Camelot and other less gringo-ized places. I know that a number of you guys still go to these places (I don't necessarily mean just the MR or the Camelot, they were just examples) but I rarely see anything come out about it. Before, people talked about everything and everywhere, with lots of good natured shit stirring, jokes, general chat and relevant issues to boot. No more. The focus is so narrow that it would seem like a single trip monger with a stay in the DR is now expert on half of what's available, based on current site info.

I make no claims about the people being different/better than they used to be, nor do I think that admin has slipped in any way. To the contrary, in fact, as the benefits of belonging to CRT continue to grow. I guess my point, and likely my whining in vain, is that I wish that some of the great quality information from those of you who are truly knowledgeable would make its way back out into the light again, instead of degenerating into 2 sites, the CRT and the back room boys club from the CRT.

My apologies to all of you whom I have offended with this post, of which I'm sure there are several. For those of you who would like to point out a single "fact" from that rant and use it to argue with me over the entirety of what I said you're wasting your time. I am presenting no facts. I used names as examples to illustrate my viewpoint, not in support of my opinion. You could substitute any place/name you like without changing anything. If you have a completely different opinion then spout it out, since it will have equal value to mine. I'd love to hear what some of the old hands have to say, and whether they think I'm full of shit or not.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:29 pm 
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From my admittedly narrow perspective, Brother Shadowman is spot on. Unfortunately what he pointed out is not rare--there seem to be 2 tipping points in Boards: when they are very small, almost exclusive, and newcomers are shunned/marginalized/banned if they try to say something the least bit out of the ordinary, so the insiders can stay exclusive, almost incestuous * ; and then again when great scale is achieved and the "plank owners" withdraw into a non-public Board core, with backchannels prevailing and newbies flailing. Seems like a fact of 'net nature or maybe even human nature, damned hard to overcome.

* I had recently joined a Board about words but proved much too coarse and brutish for those Gentle Souls. I still read it but won't post. This Board by contrast (possibly due to the nature of our primary interests) is wide open and near-instantly accepting if certain wide-latitude rules of civility are followed

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:32 pm 
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JazzboCR wrote:
Seems like a fact of 'net nature or maybe even human nature, damned hard to overcome.




Oh how true this is for P4p (chicas) in general, but that's another topic :wink:

The fact mongers rarely consider the human nature element when dealing with chicas has confused me over the years. I know in this instance you were talking about the site etc.. but I just had to jump at the oppurtunity..


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:00 pm 
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I think it may have to do with the fact that virtually all questions have been asked and answered at some point. New reviews of old topics is not a bad thing. Remember there is a definite life cycle to all of this from excitable newbie to experienced guy to old and sometimes jaded veteran. Almost all the topics are old for me now, but I learn something new from time to time. I try to remember how exciting it was to be a newbie and all the help that the veterans in 2005 and 2006 gave to my repeated inquiries. A lot of questions are answered in person here in San Jose or by PM. I probably meet 30 or so newbies a month and mostly all the vets are willing to help. I tell the new guys to fell comfortable asking for help at the Dunn or SL and that unless they prove themselves to be a real ahole of some sort they will get lots of help.

One of the things I most like about CRT is that in general it is an open fellowship with all different types of guys coming together to discuss and enjoy an aspect of life that is mostly Taboo back home.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:40 pm 
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Many a monger may have moved on to Rio, MDE and Pattaya but CR is still the closest place for affordable mongering except maybe DR. I get on an early flight and I am laying down nude in NF at 3pm the same day. You could say TJ but I really do not want anything to do with Mexico while there is a war going on there.

I just looked on expedia and tiks to MDE are only about $50 more and the flight is only an hour or two longer.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:47 pm 
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For the pinheads that are rolling their eyes and pointing out the search function, you missed the point of the post. This isn't about finding information, it's about the quality of available current information. As I pointed out earlier on, and as some of the more experienced and astute among you have also noticed, much of the communication seems to have moved from the site pages off to the back-channels (PM, word of mouth, email etc) where the membership doesn't see it.

My theory about this is that as the membership has grown, and cases of chica access have increased, that the smaller and more intimate group that used to exist and shared everything doesn't feel as close to the membership as it used to, and because of that is less likely to make an effort to get their info out there, except to those members of that original little group they still feel comfortable with. This isn't everyone, of course...

For those who complain about rehashing, yes its true that it can get tiresome. It's also true that it's necessary, if you substitute "update" for rehash. New prices, people, management, location, concerns etc etc are the lifeblood of the core material for a site like this. That's what makes this site better than ISG or WSG or the like. What good is information from 2004? That's 5 generations of information behind, and almost completely valueless, even if it does generate 100 hits in a search. For those of you who want to immediately run over to those sites and point out that there's more current info than 2004 over there, don't bother. I was making a point, not publishing a paper...

...I guess my point, and likely my whining in vain, is that I wish that some of the great quality information from those of you who are truly knowledgeable would make its way back out into the light again, instead of degenerating into 2 sites, the CRT and the back room boys club from the CRT.

My apologies to all of you whom I have offended with this post, of which I'm sure there are several. For those of you who would like to point out a single "fact" from that rant and use it to argue with me over the entirety of what I said you're wasting your time. I am presenting no facts. I used names as examples to illustrate my viewpoint, not in support of my opinion. You could substitute any place/name you like without changing anything. If you have a completely different opinion then spout it out, since it will have equal value to mine. I'd love to hear what some of the old hands have to say, and whether they think I'm full of shit or not.


I agree 100%. Information such as current MP pricing & line-ups is especially important for the occasional visitor, but has become much less available here.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:35 pm 
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Shadowman wrote:
well, Hank, Jazzbo and Cujo get it anyway...

For the pinheads that are rolling their eyes and pointing out the search function, you missed the point of the post. This isn't about finding information, it's about the quality of available current information. As I pointed out earlier on, and as some of the more experienced and astute among you have also noticed, much of the communication seems to have moved from the site pages off to the back-channels (PM, word of mouth, email etc) where the membership doesn't see it.

My theory about this is that as the membership has grown, and cases of chica access have increased, that the smaller and more intimate group that used to exist and shared everything doesn't feel as close to the membership as it used to, and because of that is less likely to make an effort to get their info out there, except to those members of that original little group they still feel comfortable with. This isn't everyone, of course.

As for those of us who also play in different locales the fact that many have moved off to MDE or Pattaya or what-have-you wouldn't mean that less info should be coming out. In fact, since the membership is growing we should be getting more, not less, than we used to. The fact that the info all seems to revolve around the DR, SL , ZB and a few other select venues, instead of encompassing everything including the other smaller places, the Paseo Colon area etc, and which included current pricing, seems to indicate to me that the membership is becoming as a group is becoming a diluted, less informed version of its current self.

For those who complain about rehashing, yes its true that it can get tiresome. It's also true that it's necessary, if you substitute "update" for rehash. New prices, people, management, location, concerns etc etc are the lifeblood of the core material for a site like this. That's what makes this site better than ISG or WSG or the like. What good is information from 2004? That's 5 generations of information behind, and almost completely valueless, even if it does generate 100 hits in a search. For those of you who want to immediately run over to those sites and point out that there's more current info than 2004 over there, don't bother. I was making a point, not publishing a paper.

I can easily remember a time in the not too distant past where with the search engine I could easily obtain what current pricing was for just about any MP in town, shithole or not, and where regular reports would come out of places like the Molino Rojo or the Camelot and other less gringo-ized places. I know that a number of you guys still go to these places (I don't necessarily mean just the MR or the Camelot, they were just examples) but I rarely see anything come out about it. Before, people talked about everything and everywhere, with lots of good natured shit stirring, jokes, general chat and relevant issues to boot. No more. The focus is so narrow that it would seem like a single trip monger with a stay in the DR is now expert on half of what's available, based on current site info.

I make no claims about the people being different/better than they used to be, nor do I think that admin has slipped in any way. To the contrary, in fact, as the benefits of belonging to CRT continue to grow. I guess my point, and likely my whining in vain, is that I wish that some of the great quality information from those of you who are truly knowledgeable would make its way back out into the light again, instead of degenerating into 2 sites, the CRT and the back room boys club from the CRT.

My apologies to all of you whom I have offended with this post, of which I'm sure there are several. For those of you who would like to point out a single "fact" from that rant and use it to argue with me over the entirety of what I said you're wasting your time. I am presenting no facts. I used names as examples to illustrate my viewpoint, not in support of my opinion. You could substitute any place/name you like without changing anything. If you have a completely different opinion then spout it out, since it will have equal value to mine. I'd love to hear what some of the old hands have to say, and whether they think I'm full of shit or not.


You are totally full of shit dude, but this has nothing to do with this post, and everything to do with the fact that you prefer congac to malt :wink: . Seriously, what you say about updating verses rehashing is spot on. I really get no true "sense" of how places have changed and what the "vibe" is like at places anymore, and the two examples you used were apt. (I had some great times in Bar Camelot, and talk about a really cool scene). When was it we were there, three years ago or so? Damn...

If I don't talk to you before, have a great trip down, and I look foward to a report with some good updates...

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:23 pm 
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Hey does anyone know if the HDR bartenders are on the menu? And, if so, should I pay her $100/hr? :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:29 pm 
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Si, Srilm. I was just messing around. Those 2 topics have been rehashed approximately 1 million times! :-)

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