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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:53 pm 
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Since you have invested in dance lesson, my major suggestion is that you invest in learning more Spanish. My thought is that it will improve your hit ratio.
I am very jealous. Yours is a plan I would love to have the opportunity to implement. Your goal is great and your expectations realistic.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:56 pm 
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Stansam wrote:
at present it seems like kinda sorta maybe some of these chicas happy to serve as personal maid and exclusive sex slave (not to offend any feminists among us)... how might that play out 5-10 years down the road?... I mean a decent guy gives 'em a good home without the macho BS they gotta take from a tico novio... should allow for a modicum of happiness, yes?

While I wouldn't use the terms maid and sex slave :roll:, it is true that latinas with a good upbringing will be good wives (take care of their men in all ways) and take care of the house. I should know, I'm married to a Tica for over 2 years now. She takes pride in having a clean house and makes sure that I look my best (cuts my hair, nails, etc). And I get some pretty much whenever I want, plus I have to give it to her when she wants it and I may not (it's rare when I don't) :lol: :lol: .


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:46 pm 
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BTW, I realize the 9 you've scored with you've bedded multiple times, but as long as you're keeping statistics I'd be curious to know your financial scorecard in terms of how much you've spent in total in terms of dance lessons, expenses in the clubs on all the chicas including the dead ends, expenses you've paid on dates (do you take them to fancy and expensive places or to the more down to earth modestly priced type ones), voluntarily buying them gifts (as opposed to the RFM's initiated by them which you turn down). Then divide that total amount by the number of nights you've bedded them. I realize that there is also a qualitative difference in those encounters as well as probably an enjoyment factor even when you go out dancing and don't get any numbers or on dates where you don't score, but it would at least give us some comparative financial measure vs. the more traditional P4P that the rest of us primarily engage in while in CR.


Most appreciative for the thoughtful comments. Yeah, I noticed myself slipping into that hopelessly romantic pap with the poor turn of phrase about, “yet to find soul mate”. Really not so naïve to believe I find happy ever after fairy tale true love from a young tica chica. But if I can get some pleasant companionship out of the deal and the babe can be happy as housekeeper and frequent sex partner the arrangement works just as well for me as any absurd notion about soul mate connections.

Interesting question re: cost/benefit analysis on P4P vs. non-pro dating expenses.

Obviously exact cost varies widely based on dance club location (Castro’s only 600 colones by taxi from the gulch. Tipico Latino in Heredia approx 7,000 colones). Total outlay varies by how much you ply prospects with drinks at the first meet and greet. I tend to spend generously on drinks and meals. I’ll buy rounds for table and even include all the co-workers and neighbors and primos (yes, both male and female) that make up a prospect’s party. These dance club chicas tend to travel in packs. An extra $20-$25 on my drink tab insignificant. And I generate a lot of good will for keeping the good times flowing.

First date typically an upscale meal (by tico standards at least). Something like Inka Grill or Ill Pomodoro. If a weekend maybe we head out for some music or try out more of my bumbling dance steps. If she’s obviously good to go at dinner I invite her to my hotel room for “drinks.” If not gaining any traction by the 2nd date I cut her loose and move on to the next. When things progress to 3rd date I ask the chica to take me to her favorite soda. Ticas that turn up their noses at the soda idea and want a McDonald’s or insist on more of those half plastic gringo chain restaurants good indication she’s not a viable long term option. Usually by date 4 or 5 the babe starts making meals for me in my apartment and we save the cash flow for weekend excursions.

A conservative estimate is for first time I tap that ass I probably end up spending same amount as a good P4P encounter. Averaging maybe $80-$100 out of pocket including taxi and drinks and meals and a handful of flowers. The pay-off comes with round 2, 3, 4+ plus when I get encore performances with no additional out of pocket expense. For the dates that fail to convert into a romp in the hay I can see the signs and untangle myself with about $50 in losses.

I need to get laid at least 3 times a week. Spread out across the 9 chicas I was able to close I’ve been averaging steady at 4+ non-pro encounters a week for the past 6 months. Obviously not up to the standards of vacationing mongers looking for 3 pops a day. I’ve mellowed with age. 4-5 times a week plenty enough for these old bones.

Hard to factor in unexpected bonuses that came my way like the 4 day weekend at the uncle’s beach house just me and my chica and all I got to do is rent a car and buy the meals. I get a willing companion looking to demonstrate her sexual prowess and as long as I behave respectable and make sure we eat when she’s hungry and drink when she’s thirsty everybody happy as a passel of clams.

Granted, I got time to burn. And, I enjoy the thrill of the chase and statisfaction of successfully closing a deal. Over time my chica expenses have gone way down. But, I get it, the amount of time devoted to the enterprise makes the scheme impossible for most mongers to replicate. Time is money after all (at least for our gringo sensibilities). Just that in my present circumstance I got more time than money so the trade off works to my advantage.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:04 pm 
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Well thought out post. When I was still single and living here I preferred Castro's and for actual pickups Fandango's in Escazu. Fandango has live music on Friday and Saturday and the crowd is more 30-50 range. There are generally smoking hot 30 something Ticas whose husbands have left them for 18 yo ticas. Many have their own places in Escazu and the K*ds are generally older.

The absolute best part about being out looking for a regualr pick up in San Jose is that if you strike out there is always P4P readily available.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:13 pm 
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Not for nothing but here's a pretty good list of bars in CR by province. Unfortunately, I didn't see Fandango listed:
http://www.ticoparty.com/Bares-Costa-Rica/

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:49 pm 
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brother if you are gettin four good encounters a week that is great. at home i get 1 decent one and two ok ones. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:49 pm 
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I like the post, And I understand the senseless p4p scence. If I was there I would hope to do somewhat of the same. I do not want to marry. But would want someone to clean and cook and Phuck. I agree that 28 and 35 is out of range in the states unless your a millioniare. Then you do not need to travel. But you have to be carefull like charlie sheen and pay them to leave. I think it is a fantasy but want you can have for a year here two years there 6 months there again. But, they all want a commitment at some point or another,

Now in something other than western culture I think you could find it for longer term where keeping you alive brings what is considered a big meal ticket in. Then you could have it long term.

But not latin America

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:44 pm 
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I like your idea of keeping score on what works. A good way to analyze yourself & human nature. The one thing I always found interesting was real bell ringing verses fake bell ringing LOL. They would let you know when they saw you the next time as you would find their eyes more focused on you than your wallet. Sometimes that was just as much of a problem in its own way.

Here is a link that shows why I like Latinas so much. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raya-hQWmog Many are so unaffected by their true beauty. Notice how she talks about her family with the most important gift she ever recieved! It wasn't being in Beverly Hills being a bitch at a cosmetic store. They talk so much with expression & life. Such a breath of fresh air.

You can meet this type but you have to get out of the gulch.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:37 pm 
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This reliable intel.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:54 pm 
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Junky11 wrote:
This reliable intel.

Don’t much lay claim to reliability. Truth be told my motives more selfish than that. I’m appealing to the collective wisdom of my more experienced brethren to shoot holes in the action plan and alert me to potential pitfalls and disasters.

My report the result of a 6 month experiment looking for an alternative to the monotony of the gulch grind. Of course, everyone’s mileage may/will vary. What I found is a few basic prerequisites.

--simple spanish
--simple dance steps
--tico only (or mostly--I mean, you and me there stinking up the joint, right?) venues
--generous enough to buy a few rounds of drinks on spec

Just that much game (pitiful as it may be) enough to connect with local non-pros. Inviting someone to dance a very low-key/non-threatening encounter. Even the rejections from ticas way softer let-down than say the plastic-boobed-bimbos of my home town Los Angeles.

Another fact: if a tica is interested in you she’s putting out by the second (and often the first) date. Got to have some patience to reel ‘em in, but cut-and-run better than twist-in-the-wind.

From my perspective the experiment is so far so good. Exactly correct as many have pointed out I got more time on the ground and less $$$ to burn short term than most who post up on this board. Same way I started out my CR adventure. Quick trips in pursuit of immersive indulgence aplenty.

I accept fairy tale romance unrealistic and not much anticipated. But always open to embracing miracles should one chance to pass my way. Been pretty consistent to date with level-headed eyes-wide-open sound decision making throughout my non-pro escapes. We see if one of these ticas breaks me down.

Now, speaking of breakdowns. Anybody out there got insight as to how community property works in CR? A tica ex has claim to 50% USA assets? Assuming civil marriage in CR and the ex never applied for visa and never set foot in USA prior to divorce. Not carving that turkey anytime soon. But always best to look ahead for potential obligation/liability.

Grateful for all the solid comments on my post. I particularly encourage voices of gloom and doom to chime in and set me straight.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:48 am 
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Stansam,
Great informative posts. I don't think she can touch your assets in the US, but my personal advice is as many CRT brothers have said, don't buy the cow when there are so many heifers out there, and they are all young, while your intended will keep getting older.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:32 am 
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I burned out on the gulch p4p a few years back, and adopted a similar mode of operation with regular women in CR & Colombia. For me at least, it was more fun and rewarding. Based upon my experience, I believe this type of strategy plays out better in Colombia.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:16 pm 
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Orange wrote:
Stansam wrote:
at present it seems like kinda sorta maybe some of these chicas happy to serve as personal maid and exclusive sex slave (not to offend any feminists among us)... how might that play out 5-10 years down the road?... I mean a decent guy gives 'em a good home without the macho BS they gotta take from a tico novio... should allow for a modicum of happiness, yes?

While I wouldn't use the terms maid and sex slave :roll:, it is true that latinas with a good upbringing will be good wives (take care of their men in all ways) and take care of the house. I should know, I'm married to a Tica for over 2 years now. She takes pride in having a clean house and makes sure that I look my best (cuts my hair, nails, etc). And I get some pretty much whenever I want, plus I have to give it to her when she wants it and I may not (it's rare when I don't) :lol: :lol: .


Orange,

I think you are making too general of a statement saying all latinas with a good upbringing make good wives. I know A LOT of chicas down here. Just like everywhere else in the world, there are good ones and bad ones. The problem down here - either gringos get attracted to the bad ones or the bad ones have an eye-out for the gringos.

I know two sisters. Both well educated and brought-up in the same exact house in Escazu. The younger one is a total darling and model wife to my good friend. She works in pharmaceuticals sales. The older one is a complete train wreck. She has never had a job. She just got finished divorcing her gringo husband (who is blind... literally) and completely emptied his pockets. She hangs-out on street corners and sells lottery tickets and drugs. The younger sister tells me to "watch out" cuz she is looking for her next gringo. He wasn't her first gringo. She has married, divorced and sacked two in all.

I will agree that latinas seem to be very clean and domestic orientated. They take pride in that kind of stuff. So, you can look at that two ways - either you get a good stay at home wife - or you married a phucking maid. I've tried getting my wife out of the house countless times to study or travel or even see a concert. She is in heaven staying home, cleaning and doesn't see much reason to get out. On the extreme other hand - I know a guy that married a P4P gal in CR. SHE LITERALLY LIVES IN BED and WATCHES TV most of the time she is awake.

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Generally speaking - good thread. I like hearing about guys getting out and taking risks to meet local women. As I've said before, statistics show that less than 1% of women in CR are hookers. So, I could never understand why so many guys look for love in all wrong places.

Your stats seem to be about right. They will always say "yes" to a dance, providing you don't look and/or act like Frankenstein. Of that group, there is a sub-group whose panties can be shucked, without much more than a kiss.

I have traveled a lot and find getting laid in CR is about as easy as going for a walk. Of all the women I have been with (non hookers) there is only one that I couldn't put wood into on the first date. It just so happens that she is now also the mother of my two boys. :P

In every case, I would stay the hell away from pretty much any place downtown, with a few exceptions. The upper class suburbs are loaded with women of all ages, waiting to get their card punched.

Looking back - I would have never thought that I would be a situation - where I would have three hot dates... three different girls lined up for Thurs through Sat night. Then, that I would unplug my land line and turn-off my cell phone and BLOW THEM ALL OFF... cuz I wanted something newer and different. :shock: 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:16 pm 
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Chi_trekker wrote:
I will agree that latinas seem to be very clean and domestic orientated. They take pride in that kind of stuff. So, you can look at that two ways - either you get a good stay at home wife - or you married a phucking maid. I've tried getting my wife out of the house countless times to study or travel or even see a concert. She is in heaven staying home, cleaning and doesn't see much reason to get out.

You are probably right about the comment I made, they can all go wrong at some point, even if brought up well.

Mine loves to go out, but only if the house is clean and proper. :lol: :lol: :lol: She hates coming home to a dirty house.


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