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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:35 pm 
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Interesting variety of viewpoints here. My question is this: If he wanted to give up $100 to try to help the chica and make himself feel better, where is that difference between that and paying the money to bed her down?

It's his money, his choice. As to creating expectations, I think that is over played on this board. The guy who beds them for 200 is creating an expectation as well, as does the guy who pays 100.

If the bro feels better about what he did, why do we have to piss on that? Just my dos colones.

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As Wes said it is a job
A very good paying job for some, that can make a bad job not to bad
Plus they get to sit around smoke and drink while waiting for work :D
Then enter a fat old gringo who is a drunken mess with one arm that has been in a bad fire( if I just decribed you sorry ) that as to be a challange, but most likly a money maker
I would say 30- 35 percent like the work


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:14 pm 
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Then enter a fat old gringo who is a drunken mess with one arm that has been in a bad fire( if I just decribed you sorry ) that as to be a challange, but most likly a money maker


I think for that guy you mention it is most likely less like buying a prostitute and more like paying a sexual therapist.

Hell,It might be more like that for most people?Me included.

How is that for a razor sharp insight? :shock:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:29 pm 
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Great story Berk!

Very interesting reading the responses. So many assumptions without either proof (in your story) or firsthand knowledge of the girl. Of course I could imagine various scenarios good or bad. But I did not get the idea that Sonny had any expectations or conditions for the gift.

Really, to me, all that matters is that he gave a gift. I suspect he is no pushover, and read the situation right. What happens afterward....Quien sabe?

Thanks again for the relate.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:53 pm 
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While a persons money is theres to do with as they please-I think that Josie,PR, and orange have the best take on it.Guys are at the DR to monger and girls to whore it really is that simple.When a girl tells me its her first time/day i always tell them thats what you said last time i met you.Responses vary.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:15 pm 
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I can't say that I would have given the chica $100. But I can say that giving her the money shows basic human decency even if most of the chicas like her will go right back there the next night or next week or the next time she's desperate for money.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:40 pm 
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Every dog has it's day!!

Nice guys finish last!!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:17 pm 
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A human being did what he thought was right under the circumstances, and gave someone the opportunity to change her life.

Opportunity to change her life? With a $100? :lol: :lol: :lol: If he had given her $100,000, or even $10,000, then you'd be right. The only thing that the $100 maybe changed were her dinner plans.

I have no problem with giving money to charity. I have no problem with the orphanage fund. But I wouldn't compare what happened here to donating to charity.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:38 pm 
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IntelDesign wrote:
If he wanted to give up $100 to try to help the chica and make himself feel better, where is that difference between that and paying the money to bed her down?

It's his money, his choice.


That hits the nail on the head. IMO The gift was more about making himself feel better...not saving a hoe...come on fellas!!! :roll:

We are all acutely away of the economic advantage we have over the young ladies in these third world countries...but we didnt cause it, we cant control it, and we cant' cure it.. Captain Save - A Hoe for all his good intentions is generally destined for failure...but no doubt he may be successful a vez en cuando (if he is well capitalized) :lol: It sucks. It sucks big time that we meet stunningly beautiful and intelligent young women with little or no opportunity to become ANYTHING in their country and who's best chance of making a living is to take our cocks in their holes until we leche. It is a great shame por supuesto,,,and no one should think a gesture like Sonny's could change a life that's just naive and bespeaks of a very unsophisticated view of the world. Of course we should be HUMAN and treat them right, like gentleman, and pay them fairly. These are our sisters, our daughters, our granddaughters and we should savor the opportunity to spend mutually beneficial time with them. But we are not going to move the markets with 100 dollars....maybe makes a good movie or urban legend but has no basis in reality...

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.....and all that money that was donated to help the K*ds at the orphanage was given by "suckers" because each and every one of those K*ds are going to become crack dealing, sister pimping street thugs. Right ? I still go by the adage, " fool me once,shame on you - fool me twice,shame on me ". I hope to hell, that I drop dead before I ever become that jaded. :!:


I am with you Gringo... while I believe little I hear in the HDR I am not so cynical and jaded that I have lost complete perspective to the humanity around me. :D

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Gringo Malo wrote:
.....and all that money that was donated to help the K*ds at the orphanage was given by "suckers" because each and every one of those K*ds are going to become crack dealing, sister pimping street thugs. Right ? I still go by the adage, " fool me once,shame on you - fool me twice,shame on me ". I hope to hell, that I drop dead before I ever become that jaded. :!:


I am with you Gringo... while I believe little I hear in the HDR I am not so cynical and jaded that I have lost complete perspective to the humanity around me. :D

Berk....


The money given to the orpanage was for paying for the basic needs of the Ch*ldren... that which would have otherwise been the responsibility of their parents or extended family...it was not intended to be gift ala "Great Expectations" So your analogy is incorrect.

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How's this for the radical middle?>>She gave a $100 acting performance--she didn't have to or maybe didn't want to give up the puss, and the guy got to feel a little better about the world and his place in it (unspoken here but no doubt he got laid later on by a true pro)--and all the words here ain't gonna change his mind. The CR economy benefited an extra $100 worth. As the late great Joe. E. Brown always asked, "Is everybody happy?".

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:13 pm 
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Orange wrote:
A sucker born every minute... she started crying because it's all she could do to hold back the laughter at this silly gringo.

What does giving any first-time HDR "virgin" $100 for nothing accomplish? Other than putting a sucker sticker on your forehead, it just shows her that gringos are stupid and when she returns the next night, she will try to find easy money again instead of actually earning it.


You are absolutely right........ a sucker born every minute and you are at the front of the line are you not? Everytime I read your posts chiming in on these kinds of topics I grab the air sickness bag I lifted from my last flight and hurl my stomach contents.

It's perfectly A-OK for you to import a hooker (ZB is it?), marry her, and then lambaste the guy in the story for doing what he did. I'ld say you have lost complete perspective. Yours is different, and we are all a bunch if suckers. Get a grip and lose the know-it-all attitude considering the choices you have made. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:35 pm 
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I think some miss the point of the story, based on the story as it reads. The money only removed the immediate need and gained this gentleman some credibility as to sincerety. What he told her is what could "change a life" as it encouraged a different direction. That is assuming that prostitution isn`t the only means of survival for these young women and I`m sure it isn`t. Based on the story, the girl was in a state of high anxiety, teetering on the fence with initiation in view and the guy offered her advice that she seemed to take.

P.S. Of course there is always room for the cynics. Perhaps the girl was only a con. Maybe the gentleman doesn`t really care about others but just gave the $ and the advice to get some nice warm fuzzy feelings for himself. Who knows and we can never know regarding this story or even if it ture at all. But it can be argued that, for many prostitution is soul destroying and leads to a hardened disposition. It`s also likely true that some have come close to entering the industry and pulled back. There are also genuine good deeds that happen out of simple responses to conscience in given circumstances. So, its not all black or white, cynical or optimistic. Reality has much greater diversity.


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What was the point of telling that "story" to begin with? To inform everybody that there's a human side to the working girls. I don't think there's one person on this board that didn't know that. Thanks for the newsflash. :roll:

On a side note, you are a complete idiot. And yes, mine is different.


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